Young boys team tonight

I actually thought we were, to be honest.
The winners of the league this year 100 percent go into the champions league group stages next season, so you were right.

Everything is a year forward in Europe so we needed last seasons winners to qualify through their league position, which they did(Chelsea).

Everything that happens this season wont have any effect on next season, but the one after.
 

Bilkypark

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I don't really buy that argument. The top end of the Europa is as strong as the low end of the CL.

Lazio, Leverkusen and Marseille would all take Malmo and a couple of other CL teams apart.

We could have been a CL team. We just found Malmo at a terrible time for us and threw in an absolute Walter in the 90s Euro performance.

It happens in football sometimes. It's probably the 1st time under Gerrard we've really fucked a Euro tie in nearly 50 efforts.

Even when we're (hopefully) in it next season, we could still "not be a CL team" based on our quality just being the same as we are now going by your metrics.
Sorry Laudrup1 but we are not a CL team yet.
Forgetting the racist behaviour, Slavia Prague were too good for us over two legs.
We couldn't overcome a 10 man Malmo because of existing problems, ie a lack of goals especially from a shot shy midfield.
Sorry to disagree but we have a long way to go yet and need to upgrade in certain positions
 

erskine bear

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The winners of the league this year 100 percent go into the champions league group stages next season, so you were right.

Everything is a year forward in Europe so we needed last seasons winners to qualify through their league position, which they did(Chelsea).

Everything that happens this season wont have any effect on next season, but the one after.
I’m not sure that’s right, why would 20/21 CL winners impact on who’s in the 22/23 CL groups.

It’s to do with the winners qualifying through their domestic league, so the CL winners have to qualify through their 21/22 league for us to be in GS 22/23 CL.

(I believe).

If Chelsea finished 5th last season, then a team would have missed out on the 21/22 CL (but i can’t be arsed figuring out who).


@rangeral will know :))
 
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Laudrup1

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Sorry Laudrup1 but we are not a CL team yet.
Forgetting the racist behaviour, Slavia Prague were too good for us over two legs.
We couldn't overcome a 10 man Malmo because of existing problems, ie a lack of goals especially from a shot shy midfield.
Sorry to disagree but we have a long way to go yet and need to upgrade in certain positions

It's semantics though. If we win the league this year with the very team that lost to Malmo we'll be a CL team next year.

What's the difference in terms of ability at that point? None whatsoever.

We're no less of a "CL team" than Malmo, Sheriff or Young Boys.

Because Malmo beat us in a period where we drastically struggled for form doesn't mean we can't compete at the level they did to reach the CL.

Same as you wouldn't say Porto aren't a CL or even EL team as we beat them "on aggregate" across our two games in the EL groups or similar with Benfica last year.
 
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Laudrup1

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The winners of the league this year 100 percent go into the champions league group stages next season, so you were right.

Everything is a year forward in Europe so we needed last seasons winners to qualify through their league position, which they did(Chelsea).

Everything that happens this season wont have any effect on next season, but the one after.

Nah, that's not right.

The "year forward" thing you're referring to is in terms of the co-efficients (for the previous year) dictacting what position you enter the following years competition.

100% we need the CL winners to be already qualified from their own league position this year to gain automatic entry for 21/22 if we win the SPL.


As you'll see there, SPL winners are currently in the PO round spot.

We'll bump up a place if any of the 24 teams from the positions at the top left of that win the CL in May 2021.
 
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TerryArcade

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Heard on TalkSport earlier that the Young Boys team last night cost 10m in transfer fees. Not sure what their wage budget is but it shows what can be done on a tight budget.
 

rangeral

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The winners of the league this year 100 percent go into the champions league group stages next season, so you were right.

Everything is a year forward in Europe so we needed last seasons winners to qualify through their league position, which they did(Chelsea).

Everything that happens this season wont have any effect on next season, but the one after.
I’m not sure that’s right, why would 20/21 CL winners impact on who’s in the 22/23 CL groups.

It’s to do with the winners qualifying through their domestic league, so the CL winners have to qualify through their 21/22 league for us to be in GS 22/23 CL.

(I believe).

If Chelsea finished 5th last season, then a team would have missed out on the 21/22 CL (but i can’t be arsed figuring out who).


@rangeral will know :))
@erskine bear @CheckMateCharlie

2022/23 - Scotland enter Play-off round and will only get direct entry if the 2021/22 CL winners have qualified for the 2022/23 CL group stage via their own league

Besiktas moved from Play-off round to group stage on the last day of the Premier League as Chelsea confirmed CL group stage place last season, Manchester City already had that

Had Chelsea finished 5th then Besiktas would have to hope Manchester City win or they would have started in the Play-off round as planned
 

erskine bear

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@erskine bear @CheckMateCharlie

2022/23 - Scotland enter Play-off round and will only get direct entry if the 2021/22 CL winners have qualified for the 2022/23 CL group stage via their own league

Besiktas moved from Play-off round to group stage on the last day of the Premier League as Chelsea confirmed CL group stage place last season, Manchester City already had that

Had Chelsea finished 5th then Besiktas would have to hope Manchester City win or they would have started in the Play-off round as planned
Thanks mate.
 

Brahim Hemdani's Granny

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It's semantics though. If we win the league this year with the very team that lost to Malmo we'll be a CL team next year.

What's the difference in terms of ability at that point? None whatsoever.

We're no less of a "CL team" than Malmo, Sheriff or Young Boys.

Because Malmo beat us in a period where we drastically struggled for form doesn't mean we can't compete at the level they did to reach the CL.

Same as you wouldn't say Porto aren't a CL team as we beat them "on aggregate" across our two games in the EL groups or similar with Benfica last year.
Agreed.

Are we good enough to compete with top end CL teams like Real Madrid, Bayern etc? Not consistently no

Are we good enough to compete with mid tier CL teams like Benfica, Porto & Villarreal? We've shown that we can already over the past 3 seasons

Are we good enough to compete with lower tier CL teams like Malmo & Young Boys? We should be and have been consistently for 3 seasons with the exception of 2 poor performances last month

As other posters have stated, the top end of the Europa is arguably stronger than the bottom end of the Champions League. We messed up over 2 legs - doesn't mean that we wouldn't be able to compete or be good enough to be a 'CL' team.
 
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