Dave King backs Rangers fans in Sydney Super Cup storm and issues Ibrox board demand

King hasn't phoned up the DR out of unconditional love for our club – he has a personal agenda.
I'n not saying his comments are all rubbish, but everything he says has to be taken with a large pinch of South African salt.
 
These comments, especially around Gerrard, just continue the shit show that is our club at the moment

Would also add that I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team with such a circus going around them win a league

We feel like a club who are imploding a little at the moment and it’s not great on or off the park
 
Turrabear said:
Maybe if he actually qualified for the champions league he may well have had a better budget.
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Or sold a player or two and reinvest. Said it before, it's no coincidence that as soon as Gerrard is out the door that we finally make a sale.

This Rangers board(including Dave King) bent over backwards for Steven Gerrard.Time and time again. They gave him a bumper new 4 year deal when he had won nothing.

I love Steven Gerrard for what he done with us and the standards he set but the idea this board stiffed him is simply one I cannot agree with.
 
Turrabear said:
Maybe if he actually qualified for the champions league he may well have had a better budget.
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No doubt about that.

Flip side is he will argue I’m sure if we had spent we would have stood a better chance to do so.

I can see both sides of the argument. Personally I would have liked us to have pushed the boat out one last time. Free and loans aren’t going to deliver sustained success to any club.

That said 2-2 on aggregate with 45 minutes to go against 10 man Malmo at a packed Ibrox. Gerrard looked lost that second half when we should have been putting that tie to bed. That was on him and the players, not the board.
 
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SDF said:
Or sold a player or two and reinvest. Said it before, it's no coincidence that as soon as Gerrard is out the door that we finally make a sale.

This Rangers board(including Dave King) bent over backwards for Steven Gerrard.Time and time again. They gave him a bumper new 4 year deal when he had won nothing.

I love Steven Gerrard for what he done with us and the standards he set but the idea this board stiffed him is simply one I cannot agree with.
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Completely agree.
There was def a perception Gerrard was doing us a favour by slumming it in the tinpot SPL.
 
He brought Gerrard here so of course he'll pin it on our board for losing him. In reality, Gerrard achieved what we all wanted, got bored of turgid Scottish football and moved back to his homeland to the richest league in the world. Easy life.

King is like a shark that smells blood like all good business men/women are. He wants back and sees the current unrest and cracks and will manipulate that. Don't know how I feel about that, my heads all over the place with us currently. :(
 
tazzabear said:
No.
Well not me.
I wouldn’t mind being told.
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My guess is his plan is to become enough of a pain in the ass to the board, by sniping from the sidelines constantly, that they will eventually buy him out.

He knows Club 1872 is a non starter, so now needs to try something different.

Will it work for him? Time will tell. In the meantime we’ll be the ones who have to suffer whilst all the noise is made. If the league is lost I expect something similar from King shortly after.

It comes back to the board gave him the opportunity this week. He was never not going to take the chance to have a kick at them.
 
The more i read that statement, the more it angers me

hes an opportunist bellend. No surprise the first dig in his statement is about his beloved 1872. Clear as day what hes trying to do here .Its all about Dave...as always.

For such a big "Rangers Man" he doesnt half like attacks on the club at the most inappropriate of times
 
Supersonic2.0 said:
most interesting from that and King's latest line is:

"and the completely unnecessary loss of a manager that won title number 55 and would have successfully defended the title are among the concerns that have caught my attention."

shit stirring? if it's about lack of transfer funds available - bit rich from King given that he has withdrawn all funding and selling up.
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He’ll have hath no fury than that of a Director shunned ?
 
I was indifferent to the whole DK dispute with the board. Now, I fully support King and hope you can rid us of middle managers such as Robertson and get us back on the right path.
 
I didn't know about Gough and DJ no longer being club ambassadors. Sad about that.

But while he's right about the Australian farce, he's wrong about the cinch dispute, and not sure how the board could have kept Gerrard when he wanted to leave.

Like so many other times King has spoken, there's sense and nonsense in the same interview.
 
Lovenkrands said:
My guess is his plan is to become enough of a pain in the ass to the board, by sniping from the sidelines constantly, that they will eventually buy him out.

He knows Club 1872 is a non starter, so now needs to try something different.

Will it work for him? Time will tell. In the meantime we’ll be the ones who have to suffer whilst all the noise is made. If the league is lost I expect something similar from King shortly after.

It comes back to the board gave him the opportunity this week. He was never not going to take the chance to have a kick at them.
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That’s exactly where I am at. I think selling the shares to C1872 and then using his links to the heads of the prominent fan groups to keep a hand in what was happening .

All speculation I am afraid. I just found it really strange that we were all stable until December. We get a Dave King outburst out the blue via the media. We get a few supportive statements from the fans groups and the sniping at the board continues.
 
SDF said:
Or sold a player or two and reinvest. Said it before, it's no coincidence that as soon as Gerrard is out the door that we finally make a sale.

This Rangers board(including Dave King) bent over backwards for Steven Gerrard.Time and time again. They gave him a bumper new 4 year deal when he had won nothing.

I love Steven Gerrard for what he done with us and the standards he set but the idea this board stiffed him is simply one I cannot agree with.
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But wasn,t it Gerrard who didn,t .want certain players sold
 
Gerrard’s time was up. The results, the performances, the attitude. His heart wasn’t in it. No one knows if he would have guided up to 56 this season - we will never find out.
 
dh1963 said:
I didn't know about Gough and DJ no longer being club ambassadors. Sad about that.

But while he's right about the Australian farce, he's wrong about the cinch dispute, and not sure how the board could have kept Gerrard when he wanted to leave.

Like so many other times King has spoken, there's sense and nonsense in the same interview.
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He has an incredible ability to polarise opinion of him, within an individual!
 
SDF said:
Or sold a player or two and reinvest. Said it before, it's no coincidence that as soon as Gerrard is out the door that we finally make a sale.

This Rangers board(including Dave King) bent over backwards for Steven Gerrard.Time and time again. They gave him a bumper new 4 year deal when he had won nothing.

I love Steven Gerrard for what he done with us and the standards he set but the idea this board stiffed him is simply one I cannot agree with.
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Gerrard wanted Kevin Nisbett and the board refused to sanction further funds for the deal.

Whether that directly lead to the apathy he had during his final few months here we can only speculate.

Apologies, but I can't quite get on board with our season being remarkably different if we'd signed him.
 
I don't agree with King's Gerrard comment. He was always going to head to the EPL when a decent opportunity came in for him. He wasn't going to stay up here, in what is a footballing backwater unfortunately, for years and years seperated from his family.
 
CaptainCourageous said:
Gerrard’s time was up. The results, the performances, the attitude. His heart wasn’t in it. No one knows if he would have guided up to 56 this season - we will never find out.
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100%. People are forgetting how bad we went between august and November. If Celtic hadn’t been so poor for the first 10 games he would have been well behind. Add to the Malmö farce
 
TCWNS1872 said:
I seriously doubt if there was any really strong bond between Gerrard and Park for some time. And by that, I mean considerably before the Malmo reverse.

I could be seeing things that I want to see, but I thought that the way Gerrard and Park interacted on trophy day seemed odd. There seemed to be a lack of warmth on Gerrard’s part toward Park and it told me that things might not be all that they seem behind the scenes.

The lack of spending to augment the squad prior to the qualifier was always a concern as was the lack of squad turnover to aid in raising sorely needed cash for a refresh. And that’s not me being smart with 20/20 hindsight. Gerrard always knew that certain players wouldn’t cut it if we wanted to move to the next level. And let’s be honest, he’s been proved correct with guys like Cedric Itten.

King’s comments will be perceived by some as being unhelpful and opportunistic. But is he wrong?

And for sure, he would never have climbed into bed with the enemy for a quick payday. Never.
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King's comments are to suit his agenda.
 
tazzabear said:
All just maybe.
Then again, maybe not.
Or, maybe, something in between.
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Not all of it is maybe the vast majority is factual,
Their fans did attack players
They hadn't beaten us is almost 3 years
We did turn up at the piggery and shit ourselves
We did achieve an unbeaten season with a record points total under Gerrard's guidance
We did qualify for group stages of Europa league twice
Had the board invested we would've had a fresher squad and a better chance of beating Malmo
We have lost a convincing league in a matter of weeks
The board have made a monumental error in agreeing this friendly with Celtic.
 
Carlisle Bear said:
Gerrard wanted Kevin Nisbett and the board refused to sanction further funds for the deal.

Whether that directly lead to the apathy he had during his final few months here we can only speculate.

Apologies, but I can't quite get on board with our season being remarkably different if we'd signed him.
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The idea that £5m spent on Kevin Nisbet was needed to get us past *checks notes* 10 man Malmo is bizarre.

Anyone thinking he'd have done anything other than kick his heels on the bench behind Alfie hasn't been paying attention.
 
I don't get this "cult of personality" comment. Whatever you might think of him and his very recent decision making Douglas Park is not what you would consider a high profile in your face always demanding media attention chairman. When he was on RTV immediately after 55 was won he looked quite ill at ease in front of the camera.
 
scooter70 said:
These comments, especially around Gerrard, just continue the shit show that is our club at the moment

Would also add that I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team with such a circus going around them win a league

We feel like a club who are imploding a little at the moment and it’s not great on or off the park
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Clearly forgotten about 2011.
 
I think SG was told players were to be sold last season.
So if your selling, you aint buying.
 
Kylegib said:
Or maybe Gerrard had made us plenty in Europe by qualifying for the group stages of Europa league twice whilst achieving an undefeated league season with a record points total to then find the board weren't or couldn't back him in the transfer market. We would certainly have had a much better chance of qualifying against Malmo had the board backed him and we had freshened up the squad. Gerrard laid foundations for us to have a period of prolonged success, there fans were attacking their players, they hadn't beaten us for almost 3 years yet with this board losing him we turned up at the piggery terrified and have managed to lose a convincing lead over them in a matter of weeks and to top things off this board have now agreed a friendly with Celtic.
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He was well backed in his time his job in Europe allowed that to happen and allowed the board to front load more of their investment into the club. There's no club that goes 3 years without a major sale of an asset whilst stockpiling a squad of over 32 players.

He had a budget in the summer and gave the majority of it to Lundstram that's on him nobody else. If he wanted players then someone could have been sold for it to happen. Malmo is on Gerrard and his failure to beat 10 men nobody else.
 
TCWNS1872 said:
I seriously doubt if there was any really strong bond between Gerrard and Park for some time. And by that, I mean considerably before the Malmo reverse.

I could be seeing things that I want to see, but I thought that the way Gerrard and Park interacted on trophy day seemed odd. There seemed to be a lack of warmth on Gerrard’s part toward Park and it told me that things might not be all that they seem behind the scenes.

The lack of spending to augment the squad prior to the qualifier was always a concern as was the lack of squad turnover to aid in raising sorely needed cash for a refresh. And that’s not me being smart with 20/20 hindsight. Gerrard always knew that certain players wouldn’t cut it if we wanted to move to the next level. And let’s be honest, he’s been proved correct with guys like Cedric Itten.

King’s comments will be perceived by some as being unhelpful and opportunistic. But is he wrong?

And for sure, he would never have climbed into bed with the enemy for a quick payday. Never.
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Im not buying the Gerrard comments, no way. We had enough in that squad to beat malmo and then ludogerets but Gerrard made an arse of it. If we had won those ties then the board wouldve backed him big time, no doubt. Our pres season seemed half arsed with the manager not fully committed. We didnt play enough friendlies and seemed under prepared for such important games. At one point when asked where our most important player was during pre season apparently the manager didnt know. If he had taken the huff at not getting kevin nesbit then its better he left.
 
Four Lads Had a Dream, The Legendary Mr Struth, Mr Souness, Mr Smith and not forgetting McCoist and Gerrard, together they and of course others, have brought us to this monumental anniversary year of 150 and counting, there should be no in house fighting, no supporting celtic in a needless tournament in Australia which will result in them making a lot of money.

This season should be one monumentos celebration about the achievements and standards of this Great Club of ours, nothing else. 56 is our goal to top off 150 glorious years. WATP now and always.
 
SDF said:
The idea that £5m spent on Kevin Nisbet was needed to get us past *checks notes* 10 man Malmo is bizarre.

Anyone thinking he'd have done anything other than kick his heels on the bench behind Alfie hasn't been paying attention.
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What about Gerrard's interview on trophy day where he states he wants more success and it's a very exciting time to be a Rangers fan, that suggests that he was expecting to be backed in the transfer market. I'm of the opinion the fact the board didn't back him was a huge factor in Gerrard and his team leaving.
 
Goodness me... that's a hell of an attack by King and a long way from the unity we saw in the aftermath of the EGM.

Whatever the truth, fiction, rights and wrongs of the rest of the statement; he's right about the Sydney friendly and the fact he's used it to fire other shots at them just highlights the incredible naivety, indeed foolishness, of the Board's decision to go ahead with it.
 
Timmy porn this stuff. Sometimes we have a brass neck as a fanbase to give the rattlers pelter about the state of their club but we aren’t any better to be honest.

Who needs this shite?

I agree with King on the Australian issue, but the rest of it is just noise. He’s clearly very bitter and it shows. He’s trying to destabilise the board and the confidence that the board has brought back to the fanbase. He’s trying to be political when we need stability. It’s all a fucking nonsense that, to be fair to him, has been brought on by the club itself.

A shambles that needs sorting out before it gets worse.

Guys like Bisgrove, although he’s had a brainfart with this Aussie thing, are a godsend to the club and we should be doing all we can to keep guys like him. The club have a big time feel about it again, we have an elite level mindset and it would be a disaster for the club to lose that now.
 
Paulski55 said:
Timmy porn this stuff. Sometimes we have a brass neck as a fanbase to give the rattlers pelter about the state of their club but we aren’t any better to be honest.

Who needs this shite?

I agree with King on the Australian issue, but the rest of it is just noise. He’s clearly very bitter and it shows. He’s trying to destabilise the board and the confidence that the board has brought back to the fanbase. He’s trying to be political when we need stability. It’s all a fucking nonsense that, to be fair to him, has been brought on by the club itself.

A shambles that needs sorting out before it gets worse.

Guys like Bisgrove, although he’s had a brainfart with this Aussie thing, are a godsend to the club and we should be doing all we can to keep guys like him. The club have a big time feel about it again, we have an elite level mindset and it would be a disaster for the club to lose that now.
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I genuinely have absolutely no problem with Bisgrove on the Sydney friendly. His job, his sole job, is to maximise revenue from commercial opportunities. He's negotiated one and brought it to the table. Frankly, it's for others to take a more wholistic view and reject the idea.

There are other things Bisgrove has done, and stories I've heard over his dealings with prospective commercial partners, that leave me a little wary of him (those stories may very well not be true, or at least they're only one side of it) but the Sydney decision isn't on him in my view.
 
Supersonic2.0 said:
Spending £7-8m on an unknown quantity of a player is reckless. Kent was different as we had him on loan first, even then sometimes he doesn’t look a £7m player.
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7-8m for Olsen, no chance even with fees on top, his reputation doesn't bring that much flout to cost that much. We spent over 4m on an injury prone striker from Belgium in Roofe, we definitely paid a loan fee for Ramsey. We take risks on injury prone players yet won't on a highly rated prospect. It's daft.

Probably 6m at a push.
 
bkerr72 said:
He was well backed in his time his job in Europe allowed that to happen and allowed the board to front load more of their investment into the club. There's no club that goes 3 years without a major sale of an asset whilst stockpiling a squad of over 32 players.

He had a budget in the summer and gave the majority of it to Lundstram that's on him nobody else. If he wanted players then someone could have been sold for it to happen. Malmo is on Gerrard and his failure to beat 10 men nobody else.
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Were you expecting us to get from the first qualifier to the group stages? that must've made us money we weren’t expecting. Regarding player sales I agree we should've sold and reinvested however we took money in for Patterson and Gerrard's management team leaving and didn't reinvest and apparently we now need to play Celtic in a friendly as it'll generate £2m
 
Kylegib said:
What about Gerrard's interview on trophy day where he states he wants more success and it's a very exciting time to be a Rangers fan, that suggests that he was expecting to be backed in the transfer market. I'm of the opinion the fact the board didn't back him was a huge factor in Gerrard and his team leaving.
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Fair enough point but he should have had a squad that was capable of beating malmo.
If we had qualified forbthe champions league then I,m sure the board would have backed him .
 
insanicdrunk said:
Agree with this, Gerrard managed to keep all his big players window after window, he should have allowed one or two to go and re invest.
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Paulski55 said:
Timmy porn this stuff. Sometimes we have a brass neck as a fanbase to give the rattlers pelter about the state of their club but we aren’t any better to be honest.

Who needs this shite?

I agree with King on the Australian issue, but the rest of it is just noise. He’s clearly very bitter and it shows. He’s trying to destabilise the board and the confidence that the board has brought back to the fanbase. He’s trying to be political when we need stability. It’s all a fucking nonsense that, to be fair to him, has been brought on by the club itself.

A shambles that needs sorting out before it gets worse.

Guys like Bisgrove, although he’s had a brainfart with this Aussie thing, are a godsend to the club and we should be doing all we can to keep guys like him. The club have a big time feel about it again, we have an elite level mindset and it would be a disaster for the club to lose that now.
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It's arguably the football operations that are of more concern overall at the moment that the commercial side.
 
Spoken by opportunistic businessman. This by a man who (among others) made a complete mess of trying to get rid of Ashley, talks about the shoddy treatment of Club 1872 (whose 3 directors treat the members of 1872 with scorn), complains about Park fighting with the authorities etc.
He is no different to our board.
 
Kylegib said:
What about Gerrard's interview on trophy day where he states he wants more success and it's a very exciting time to be a Rangers fan, that suggests that he was expecting to be backed in the transfer market. I'm of the opinion the fact the board didn't back him was a huge factor in Gerrard and his team leaving.
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I wanted a busier transfer window however the club has been losing £10m+ each year for how many years? 5? At what point do we as fans and the manager have to be realistic about where the finances come from to fund these transfer windows? He was probably told he would get all funds that were generated and none were generated.
 
Kylegib said:
Were you expecting us to get from the first qualifier to the group stages? that must've made us money we weren’t expecting. Regarding player sales I agree we should've sold and reinvested however we took money in for Patterson and Gerrard's management team leaving and didn't reinvest and apparently we now need to play Celtic in a friendly as it'll generate £2m
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We were never spending Patterson/Gerrard money in January when prices are at a premium and when there is a massive summer rebuild staring us in the face
 
The Beale Instagram rant revealed a lot I thought.

I would expect Gerrard would have always considered leaving, but it just felt like a fractured relationship from the summer which likely accelerated it.

A manager will always expect more, I was of view Gerrard had done enough for us that he should have been given a bit more in the summer personally, it all felt half arsed.
 
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