Europa league opponents
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rangeral
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Depends on which regional group we are placed in last season we moved into the Central group for QR1
Which meant our teams were from Luxembourg, Gibraltar, Andorra, San Marino or Moldova
DeeGer10
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It’s likely to be similar again then. I knew we were put into groups wasn’t sure how it worked as there was teams closer we could’ve been paired with.
Possibly trying to avoid us going to Ireland?
possible mate
rangeral
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I was surprised that did happen with us but I think there was other issues that allowed it to happen something to do with Ferencvaros?
Not sure if it is a big issue as it was in 1998 however it does face issues if we end up drawing a team from either from the Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland
DeeGer10
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Yeah interesting how they will do it.
Out of curiosity...same goes for any other posters what is your preferred draw as a fan.
As I want to go I’d like Wales/Northern Ireland or Slovakia/Hungary. Just basically somewhere that wouldn’t be too expensive with the hope of qualifying and getting a better trip the next round.
rangeral
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Places like last season result apart if I was going to attend I have always enjoyed that
Bertyboy69
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Hoping for a Hungarian team, easy to get to for me. Also, Podgorica would be nice..writing this from Podgorica right now.
I think if we do draw a Irish side, we will go there on any given date ( maybe not ulster on 12th ) hear me out, its peace time in Ireland and Ulster regardless of the political issues in Stormont.
if we draw a south team , we will no doubt be allowed to play at the venue of the local club and watch the governments and media make a peace deal out of it like they did when England played Ireland a few years back .
might be talking keek but I have this feeling
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
Living in Wales then, obviously, one of the Welsh teams would suit me.
Other than that....Progres Niederkorn. Unfinished business that needs to be addressed.
Not sure I'd want us drawing a team from Northern Ireland or from the Republic. Too much potential for us to be 'set up'.
rangeral
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I am not sure if you are aware but we were heading to Dublin 20 years to play Shelbourne at Tolka Park allocation given 3k IRC however pressure in the end got it moved just 1 week before it due to take place this was when Drumcree was ongoing at the time
20 years on no doubt things are different if we are to play either side of the border it will most likely in Belfast or Dublin regardless who we play
Same as I don’t fly back from turkey until the 16th of July.
rangeral
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yes
Blackpool Dave
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So do I just down the road from me
Barryhopez
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With teams playing cross border in the Balkans etc. I'm not sure they'd lose to much sleep over us going to Ireland, Northern or Republic.
Info on groups:
In the qualifying rounds the teams are divided into groups with the same number of seeded and unseeded teams. A few hours before the draw a computer system is used to prepare the groups such that teams of the same association are not in the same group and and that all groups are about equal strength (in terms of ranking). Then all clubs in each group are ordered randomly and identified by a number. For these draws there are only two bowls with numbered balls, one with the seeded numbers and one with the unseeded numbers. The draw determines the pairs in the groups: e.g. (7 vs 4) which means that the 7th team of each group plays against the 4th club of each group.
For the draw of the 1st round the 94 teams are probably divided into 7 groups of 10 teams and 2 groups of 12 teams.
Safe Standing Bear
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3rd Round Qualifying looks brutal!
RuchazieBlue
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There is never an easy opponent in a European game
Just need team selection right, tactics right and a bit of luck and you never know. Not much to do
Just need team selection right, tactics right and a bit of luck and you never know. Not much to do
VelvetThunder
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Is there much chance of getting a ticket for the first European away game if this is your first year in the travel club? Thinking about being ready to book flights etc on the day of the draw but unsure of how the ticketing works. Are spares easy enough to source etc. I read something about needing ID to pick up tickets so thats making me think spares aren’t possible unless you’re in the home end. Appreciate any replies.
rangeral
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A lot depends on the demand of the game
If you opt for official travel then your tickets comes with it but you have successful for that
If you opt for independent travel again in order to gain a ticket you need to be successful and that is picked-up on location where we are playing ID needed, Travel Club card or passport if they haven't got your travel club card out on time
Both work on a points system
It not like domestic games where spares are available
rangeral
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See if our QR2 were someone like Molde FK then for QR3 we take their seeding for the draw but we have to get past QR1 before we can think of that happening. QR3 draw is on 23rd July and is before QR2 1st leg
Der Berliner
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I hope we avoid any team from a country that has "summer football" running. We'll essentially still be in pre-season again, while such teams can have 10 or more league games under their belt already by then. Take Morelos' side of last season. After a winter break, they started on January 28th and played through the summer, he didn't get any sort of break because of that ... and it was a real shame that Pedro didn't threw him in straight away ... if he was available.
Anyway, it will be a big ask to get to the group stages, not least when the quality sides join in.
Anyway, it will be a big ask to get to the group stages, not least when the quality sides join in.
mayfairblue
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You shouldn't have much problem getting a ticket.
sregnar
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Round 2 is the key one, should we actually get past round 1 this year that is.
If we beat a seeded team in round 2, we would then become seeded in round 3.
So we really need to avoid a Sevilla or Besiktas if we get to round 2.
BajanBear
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This. Match fitness levels will not be up to scratch and we'll (hopefully) have a team many of whom haven't played with each other. The Scandinavian teams also happen to be among the best we could play so best avoided.
LaudrupsHeader
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Would these sides not be likely depleted of key players due to the World cup (Sevilla & BJK). unsure of the dates. Doubt it would make a massive difference
bigy
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The 1st round isn't regionalised. There are groups created and these groups should all be relatively equal in terms of strength - and that could result in some groups being more regionalised, but the draw itself isn't regionalised per se.
Also, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round qualifying draws are all made before the previous round is complete - so we could get lucky.
Based on projections, in the 3rd round our best chance would be against the likes of Molde (Norway), Rijeka (Croatia)or Limassol (Cyprus), and to then get drawn against Maribor in the 4th round. That's about as 'easy' as we can hope for.
From Bert Kassies site:
In the qualifying rounds the teams are divided into groups with the same number of seeded and unseeded teams. A few hours before the draw a computer system is used to prepare the groups such that teams of the same association are not in the same group and and that all groups are about equal strength (in terms of ranking). Then all clubs in each group are ordered randomly and identified by a number. For these draws there are only two bowls with numbered balls, one with the seeded numbers and one with the unseeded numbers. The draw determines the pairs in the groups: e.g. (7 vs 4) which means that the 7th team of each group plays against the 4th club of each group.
For the draw of the 1st round the 94 teams are probably divided into 7 groups of 10 teams and 2 groups of 12 teams.
The draw for the 2nd qualifying round is made before the results of the preliminary round and the 1st qualifying round are known. Clubs of the preliminary round and the 1st qualifying round are seeded by the highest ranking of the clubs involved.
Also, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round qualifying draws are all made before the previous round is complete - so we could get lucky.
Based on projections, in the 3rd round our best chance would be against the likes of Molde (Norway), Rijeka (Croatia)or Limassol (Cyprus), and to then get drawn against Maribor in the 4th round. That's about as 'easy' as we can hope for.
From Bert Kassies site:
In the qualifying rounds the teams are divided into groups with the same number of seeded and unseeded teams. A few hours before the draw a computer system is used to prepare the groups such that teams of the same association are not in the same group and and that all groups are about equal strength (in terms of ranking). Then all clubs in each group are ordered randomly and identified by a number. For these draws there are only two bowls with numbered balls, one with the seeded numbers and one with the unseeded numbers. The draw determines the pairs in the groups: e.g. (7 vs 4) which means that the 7th team of each group plays against the 4th club of each group.
For the draw of the 1st round the 94 teams are probably divided into 7 groups of 10 teams and 2 groups of 12 teams.
The draw for the 2nd qualifying round is made before the results of the preliminary round and the 1st qualifying round are known. Clubs of the preliminary round and the 1st qualifying round are seeded by the highest ranking of the clubs involved.
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GraemeG
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What is the dates of the qualifier rounds all legs?
DeeGer10
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12 July: First qualifying round, first leg
19 July: First qualifying round, second leg
23 July: Third qualifying round draw, Nyon
26 July: Second qualifying round, first leg
August
2 August: Second qualifying round, second leg
6 August: Play-off round draw, Nyon
9 August: Third qualifying round, first leg
16 August: Third qualifying round, second leg
23 August: Play-off round, first leg
30 August: Play-off round, second leg
Does anyone know what time the draw is on 20th June? Thinking of taking a half day holiday.
rangeral
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Good grief. I need help Bears. How do you explain seeding to kids?
I've tried and failed miserably.
I've tried and failed miserably.
nelster
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Good grief. I need help Bears. How do you explain seeding to kids?
I've tried and failed miserably.
Theres a 5 year UEFA league table for the teams in each round.
Teams in top half play the teams in bottom half
That's a great help mate. Simplifies it as I was coming at it from the coefficient perspective. Cheers nelster.
you cant.....its a national point system ...,..Good grief. I need help Bears. How do you explain seeding to kids?
I've tried and failed miserably.
which involves national sides and international sides
Laudrup1
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ibroxonian
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Have said before, but Bert knows UEFA rules better than UEFA. Incredible knowledge and just about able to explain to the rest of us
We have a huge task getting to the group stages. Huge. But we need to progress to get the co-efficient improved, even just to give us a better chance
Know it is a different system, but Northern Ireland were out of the top 100, now in the top 30. Just takes a few good wins to turn it around
That and avoiding Sevilla!
We have a huge task getting to the group stages. Huge. But we need to progress to get the co-efficient improved, even just to give us a better chance
Know it is a different system, but Northern Ireland were out of the top 100, now in the top 30. Just takes a few good wins to turn it around
That and avoiding Sevilla!
GizmoRFC21
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Gonna be really, really tough to get anywhere near the group stages it has to be said.
Rotterdam Loyal
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Do the Gibraltar teams play European games in Gibraltar?
I think I'm thinking about their national team, didn't they play qualifiers in Portugal as their ground was too small or something ?
Maybe rectified now
Be a good trip.
I think I'm thinking about their national team, didn't they play qualifiers in Portugal as their ground was too small or something ?
Maybe rectified now
Be a good trip.
RFC#1Scotty
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Being an optimist I don't fear the qualifying rounds, in fact, if Gerrard improves Rangers defensively, I'm fairly confident Rangers will do well enough. Bearing in mind that there is touted to be a big turnover this summer.
The players who have been here for a good while, they should hit the ground running. Again, all of that depends whether the likes of Morelos will be here this season coming or will be off, hard to judge.
Laudrup1
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well explain it better smarty pants
Well for starters it’s got nothing to do with international sides.
Each team has a combination of their own points total of a five year added to the nation’s (ie the league they play in, nothing to do with international teams) total.
The nation’s total is derived from the performances of it’s club sides over the same five year period and is how the country ranking is sorted. Ie how Italy and England etc end up with automotive CL spots and Scotland doesn’t.
If the team hasn’t played in Europe before, the are given the contoured total on its own for seeding purposes in their draw.
Simple!
hardly simple Laudy
Bluetac 73
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Where is the final next season, may have to book a hotel and flights soon
Baku.
bobally
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But will Baku be big enough
We had a chance of drawing Lincoln Red Imps last year and from memory if we did the game was to be in the Estadio Algarve in Faro.
GizmoRFC21
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Mate I’m a massive optimist when it comes to Rangers. Always have been but that is an extremely daunting prospect for us.
