Spit the dog
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I think Clement has badly managed this interview and actually his last one as well.
Managing interviews badly I don't care about, his management of the team the past few games is a bit more concerning.I think Clement has badly managed this interview and actually his last one as well.
I was exactly the same, watched it right through and didn’t get angry, I just accepted that this is the usual from our team nowadays when it comes to the crunch. My uncle said he went to his bed after 60 mins, he couldn’t be bothered anymore.They've absolutely scunnered me, our support falls for the same shit every season.
On Wednesday night I didn't even get angry watching that garbage, just a performance we have seen over and over.
We were told to back the team as our support would drive them on only to be hit with this fkn nonsense.
Goes hand in glove.Managing interviews badly I don't care about, his management of the team the past few games is a bit more concerning.
Struggling to get up for this cup game too, after the last 2 performances. Team have broke me.I was exactly the same, watched it right through and didn’t get angry, I just accepted that this is the usual from our team nowadays when it comes to the crunch. My uncle said he went to his bed after 60 mins, he couldn’t be bothered anymore.
If any of the players, management or board read comments on here please please realise this is what this does to the support, it is genuinely soul destroying. Rangers players should not chuck it ever but to do it season after season is unforgivable.
I’m going on Sunday, but in all honesty I couldn’t care less one way or another, that’s where I’m at and that’s for a Scottish cup semi final.
Does he say he knows we can NOT count on Dijon?
A bit off topic but watching Man City documentary on Netflix and how Pep tore into the team after they lost to Southampton, he mentioned Sport and life is all about body language - he absolutely annihilated them about lack of desire, fight and hunger, and basically said unless they show it, the academy is ready.
I truly hope this was Big Phil’s true message behind close doors.
Our team should be hungry, they should be starving - but when you watch our performances they are not, they are is no desire or belief.
Sterling shows hunger and fight when he plays but the rest? Well most look like they are just going through the motions, the captain included.
Very badly, in all honesty.I think Clement has badly managed this interview and actually his last one as well.
Does he say he knows we can NOT count on Dijon?
Try playing him to his strengths not at fucking left back because you can't manage a Barisic into giving a %^*&.
This is the first time I've felt a bit of dislike for our Manager.
Get a grip. Tavernier is being criticised on this very thread for saying very similar in previous season, and he was crucified for it at the time by the way. Almost word for the word the same as Sterling. Our manager has just reprimanded Sterling for being too open. Tav is Captain and obviously has to be on script with the manager in that position. He literally can't win with some of our fans!"We go again. We'll learn from this. We need to be better"
"It's not good enough. Playing like we're not in a title race. I question the mindset. Fans deserve better. They follow us everywhere".
I paraphrase of course but which quote do you think reflects the mood of our support more? The captain or the young lad that plays everywhere and anywhere and has the heart of a lion?
I agree with the part where you said Tav 'can't win'. Therein lies the problem with the man.Get a grip. Tavernier is being criticised on this very thread for saying very similar in previous season, and he was crucified for it at the time by the way. Almost word for the word the same as Sterling. Our manager has just reprimanded Sterling for being too open. Tav is Captain and obviously has to be on script with the manager in that position. He literally can't win with some of our fans!
Clement coming out and slating sterling for speaking the truth is a massive boo boo..... Wouldn't be surprised to see him dropped again tomorrow for that imposter barisic.I think Clement has badly managed this interview and actually his last one as well.
I have been like this for the past few seasons, mate, i love Rangers but apathy set in a long time agoI was exactly the same, watched it right through and didn’t get angry, I just accepted that this is the usual from our team nowadays when it comes to the crunch. My uncle said he went to his bed after 60 mins, he couldn’t be bothered anymore.
If any of the players, management or board read comments on here please please realise this is what this does to the support, it is genuinely soul destroying. Rangers players should not chuck it ever but to do it season after season is unforgivable.
I’m going on Sunday, but in all honesty I couldn’t care less one way or another, that’s where I’m at and that’s for a Scottish cup semi final.
I wont be at the game but could that fans have a banner for Sterling or give him a shout to show PC that we think Sterling is correct.
IF STerling does not play we should make our feelings known.
I hope he can remotivate this team but the Monaco messages are starting to worry me. The interviews, his delusional patter….anyone trying to defend that “I got a reaction” from the Ross county game to the Dundee game has their head in the sand.A bit off topic but watching Man City documentary on Netflix and how Pep tore into the team after they lost to Southampton, he mentioned Sport and life is all about body language - he absolutely annihilated them about lack of desire, fight and hunger, and basically said unless they show it, the academy is ready.
I truly hope this was Big Phil’s true message behind close doors.
Our team should be hungry, they should be starving - but when you watch our performances they are not, they are is no desire or belief.
Sterling shows hunger and fight when he plays but the rest? Well most look like they are just going through the motions, the captain included.
Could you show us this quote, or did you just make that up?
This thread has just been in a constant state of rage since Wednesday night. I seriously don't know where people get the energy for it.I hope he can remotivate this team but the Monaco messages are starting to worry me. The interviews, his delusional patter….anyone trying to defend that “I got a reaction” from the Ross county game to the Dundee game has their head in the sand.
We understand about the importance of keeping things in house, don’t wash your dirty laundry in public etc but to outright lie to the supporters who follow you everywhere (whether it was to the media or us is neither here nor there, the media platform is where we get to here from the gaffer and players).
Then again, is he lying or does he actually believe that Dundee performance was a suitable reaction to getting beat off RC for the first time in our history at such a Pivotal moment in the season???
That will not happen.Be mad to drop Sterling.
I don't think it is anything other than bottle. The leadership group just doesn't have it.How this has changed within a matter of weeks is baffling. Something must have happened behind the scenes.
Clement needs to get the EPL references to f*ck. A few times he's done it now.
Not just dessers, although your completely correct about him.I can only imagine how frustrating it is to play football with Dessers as your main striker. He simply does not possess a first touch, the ball bounces off him every single time. For the players this must be a nightmare. It’s completely fucked our play not having a striker who can take it in.
This bit is interesting. Post winter break 19/20 we played 10 league games, Tavernier played in 5 of them. We dropped more points in the 5 he played (losses to Kilmarnock and Hamilton and draw to St Johnstone) than in the 5 he didn't (loss to Hearts and draw to Aberdeen).It didn't though. 19/20 yes, our form collapsed after Christmas, when one of the players you are picking on, Tavernier, was injured. Consensus at the time was that his injury was a huge reason for our loss of form. 21/22, we were dropping points all over from day 1. Malmo papped us out of the CL in August. Gerrard had lost it and we all knew it at the time. It wasn't a player mentality thing, the whole thing just went wrong and that started with Gerrard. It wasn't a collapse comparable to this to this one. 22/23, again, we were dropping points from the beginning. It wasn't a collapse, they hammered us 4-0 in September and were simply a far better team with better players and manager. And again, an injury to one of the players you are choosing to pick on was the number one reason for us dropping points (Goldson). We only dropped points in 1 single game outside the old firms that Goldson played in, and it was due to a red that wasn't a red to Lundstram at Easter Road.
You are massively oversimplifying this collapse under Clement if you think you can pin it on the mentality of only 3 players based on shoddy comparisons to previous seasons. Our tactics are a mess, we have been riddled with injuries and we look knackered. We don't have real quality players. There are lots of reasons for it but it certainly isn't the simplistic one you and most on this forum have gone with.
Sterling hasn't called out his teammates. He's understated, if anything, the obvious.I can understand what clement is saying. It was a little naive of Sterling to come out and give the press a headline. His point being that Van Dijk could’ve done the same recently and called out players but he used his experience and media training and didn’t call out his team mates.
I get us as fans like to hear stuff like that when it’s not going well but his teammates probably had something to say to him.
I thought that after the OF 3-3, he rotated the squad and was happy with a point. That was 3 points dropped not 2The comments from the manager are a bit of an alarm bell that he doesn’t appreciate the mood of the fanbase or the nature of the job at the minute.Not as much of an alarm bell as picking the wrong team 3 games running - but worrying nonetheless.
He's paraphrasing (somewhat inaccurately) Tav's programme notes in which he said,Could you show us this quote, or did you just make that up?
Quite frankly they’d be aswell putting a couple of the B team midfielders in there tomorrowA bit off topic but watching Man City documentary on Netflix and how Pep tore into the team after they lost to Southampton, he mentioned Sport and life is all about body language - he absolutely annihilated them about lack of desire, fight and hunger, and basically said unless they show it, the academy is ready.
I truly hope this was Big Phil’s true message behind close doors.
Our team should be hungry, they should be starving - but when you watch our performances they are not, they are is no desire or belief.
Sterling shows hunger and fight when he plays but the rest? Well most look like they are just going through the motions, the captain included.
His various comments in the past fortnight just seem bizarre and completely out of character compared to how switched on and rational he seemed in the six months previous.
All he was doing was referencing how a more experienced and media-savvy player approached a post-match interview in a pressure situation. A perfectly reasonable point given the question he was asked
Can't help but think folks are making a mountain out of a molehill with this
I know what the programme notes said.He's paraphrasing (somewhat inaccurately) Tav's programme notes in which he said,
"Whenever anybody puts a bit of pressure on us in Scotland or gets in our face it seems to affect us too much.
"At the start of the season teams dropped off us and we were scoring four or five goals, but now they smell blood straight away and put us under pressure.
"We are not good enough domestically to react to that."
A fairly damning assessment of his own mental toughness and that of the players around him, some of whom continue to be regular picks to this day.
I can't remember another club captain of any team making such an admission and have actively followed the game for >50 years. He told others how to beat us.
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The supporters heads are completely gone though, seems as though we're actively looking for signs and behaviour because we need a better answer than it's a dip in form, injuries to key players and fitness issues catching up with us.
We were all basically announcing that Rodgers had lost the plot a few months ago, and they were going to implode because of the things he was saying in the press. Yet here we are a few months later and things have completely shifted. It's almost as if these press conferences are completely meaningless and don't really give the support the first clue about what is going on behind the scenes.
Rodgers has always been a weird one TBF. He's equally capable of being charming and smarmy in equal measure.
I'm not questioning whether the manager is losing it or questioning his leadership skills and this isn't about wanting him sacked or anything stupid like that. I just think that given how level headed and calm he's been about everything that's been thrown his way since he walked in the door that the last two weeks seems a complete 180 to me in terms of his comments.
It's been a surprise to me, that's all.
It's not very savvy when you know it's gonna be picked apart and dissected though.He was referencing a specific interview, which took place on Thursday night, after the Atalanta game. He wasn't doing an overall comparison.
Implosion, think it’s daft to call it that, we have just witnessed an alarming run of results, 2 wins in 8 games. Supporters who aren’t alarmed at what they’re watching are the ones I find acting a little strangely.This thread has just been in a constant state of rage since Wednesday night. I seriously don't know where people get the energy for it.
As for the gaffers time at Monaco, we don't know what caused it to go wrong there, but a big part of things coming apart at the seams there was the sale of his best players. Lost his key midfielder, and 2 of his starting centre halves, basically.
For the record, managers lie to the supporters all the time, and it's fairly daft to think otherwise. Clear to see, though, that the tide is turning on Clement and people are splitting into factions over it. Nobody quite does implosions like us. I get that people are mad because of our recent run of form, and because of this squad's history of choking in the big moments, but I don't see how taking sides and in fighting or bickering is going to improve things.
Sterling clearly spoke a little too candidly for the manager's liking. Which is completely fair, by the way, as much as we agree with Sterling's words on the matter. There's a reason that senior pros don't say the things that Dujon has said, and we're watching it unfold now on this thread. All it's done is add a layer of pressure to an already highly pressurised situation.
Honestly makes me despair.
The quote from Tav was inab league program way the season before we won 55.. Could have been against Hamilton, but not 100 % sure.Could you show us this quote, or did you just make that up?
Only read first paragraph..I'm not saying the hostile crowd at the last two games spooked our players. I was just saying what Tav said in a match day program... As for the last two shit performances it is just down to most the players being 1, shite and 2, past it.I say otherwise. Because im not someone who peddles Celtic nonsense.
Tell me mate, what was it about Ross County and Dundee away that spooked our players in terms of fans? Those well known hotbeds of atmosphere. Known the world over for their noise!
We won the league a few years ago because we were the best team by absolute miles and since then we've downgraded. The very next season we went to Belgrade and Dortmund and won ties.....but aye two men and a sheep at Ross County terrify our players.
Debate the team all you like but don't peddle Tim lies and say whoever doesn't agree is a liar. Whoever doesn't agree isn't a liar- they are people who arent complete and utter morons.
Anyone saying we only won the league because there was no fans is a moron who should go watch another sport. Idiocy and, as usual, ignoring any evidence to the contrary to suit their point.
We've now reached the point where we are pathetically downplaying our own achievements from the past as a way of having digs at our own club. Self loathing nonsense.
Some people are now downplaying the actual footballing ability part of teams now and placing far too much emphasis on basically every other aspect possible.
Teams with better footballers win more games. The most important thing any team needs is good footballers.
We know the quote but he never mentioned anything about crowds, maybe read the actual quotes?The quote from Tav was inab league program way the season before we won 55.. Could have been against Hamilton, but not 100 % sure.
I believe it was March 2020 v Dundee UtdThe quote from Tav was inab league program way the season before we won 55.. Could have been against Hamilton, but not 100 % sure.
Regardless of that,it was still a poor thing to say, especially in a match programme.We know the quote but he never mentioned anything about crowds, maybe read the actual quotes?
The collapse happened when he was injured though, that's the point. There was near enough consensus that his injury was a key reason for it. We were in a rut by the time he returned and couldn’t turn it around. Point is that you can't blame his mentality for the dramatic loss of form that season.This bit is interesting. Post winter break 19/20 we played 10 league games, Tavernier played in 5 of them. We dropped more points in the 5 he played (losses to Kilmarnock and Hamilton and draw to St Johnstone) than in the 5 he didn't (loss to Hearts and draw to Aberdeen).