Only Rangers can publicly address the compromised refs situation.

Badger said:
Anyone else sick of the contant conspiracy threads. I do see what fuels them but it seems like there's always at least on thread about "cheating" officials on the first page of this forum.

There's obviously a debate to be had, I'm not arguing otherwise but I find the constant threads tiring.
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That's how they hope it works. If we keep banging on about cheating officials and Celtic getting reffed differently (to their advantage) than any other team, they'll sit back and wait till we burn ourselves out. Also, no other team will say anything against them.
I hate to say it, but they are good at this shit.
 
Badger said:
Anyone else sick of the contant conspiracy threads. I do see what fuels them but it seems like there's always at least on thread about "cheating" officials on the first page of this forum.

There's obviously a debate to be had, I'm not arguing otherwise but I find the constant threads tiring.
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Why not ignore them then if you don't like them?
 
Badger said:
Anyone else sick of the contant conspiracy threads. I do see what fuels them but it seems like there's always at least on thread about "cheating" officials on the first page of this forum.

There's obviously a debate to be had, I'm not arguing otherwise but I find the constant threads tiring.
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If you are comfortable with us being cheated then don’t read them.
 
Badger said:
Anyone else sick of the contant conspiracy threads. I do see what fuels them but it seems like there's always at least on thread about "cheating" officials on the first page of this forum.

There's obviously a debate to be had, I'm not arguing otherwise but I find the constant threads tiring.
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First you have to consider if it is a conspiracy or not and if you know the fuel that fuels them then you have doubt that is a conspiracy and if you think a debate has to be made then you must have more doubt in this being a conspiracy and you are only as annoyed as the rest of us?

That many of the threads are just as likely have a thread of truth in their concerns that this is no conspiracy but too many dodgy decisions not just this season either but all indeed warrant an investigation and truth then reform would be the next steps to ensuring our game survives!
 
Other clubs don’t say anything when it’s the mentally challengeds. I was in the pub with team mates after a local football match on Saturday whilst match was on. One of them a sheep, pipes up “the huns would get 2 penalties for that.” Unbelievable
 
Two things that jump out: 1) wanting us to ‘call out’ decisions in games that we aren’t playing in seems unlikely; 2) there is always a lot of demand for us to ‘do something’ but I’m always waiting to hear what that ‘something’ is and what positive impact it will have.
 
muttley said:
Celtc players repeatedly punching the ball in their own penalty box with no sanction, Celtc players feigning injury to ensure opponents legitimate goals or penalty claims are dismissed. It is embarrassing for Scottish football what is happening before our eyes. Only Rangers, as Scotland's biggest club, can address the issue of compromised refs which is destroying any competition in Scottish football. Before we play Celtc, it is imperative that we publicly demand an impartial referee, bring up the stream of disallowed goals against Celtc over the last few seasons, and ask why we haven't received a penalty kick at Parkhead in 14 years. This cheating cannot continue.
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I definitely get your point bro but we should have beat them. We always shoot ourselves in the foot especially early doors. We should have went to town when we done them I.e scumdome when Kent and Katic scored and Clancy displayed one of the most worst displays of bias known to man towards the scum.
 
muttley said:
Celtc players repeatedly punching the ball in their own penalty box with no sanction, Celtc players feigning injury to ensure opponents legitimate goals or penalty claims are dismissed. It is embarrassing for Scottish football what is happening before our eyes. Only Rangers, as Scotland's biggest club, can address the issue of compromised refs which is destroying any competition in Scottish football. Before we play Celtc, it is imperative that we publicly demand an impartial referee, bring up the stream of disallowed goals against Celtc over the last few seasons, and ask why we haven't received a penalty kick at Parkhead in 14 years. This cheating cannot continue.
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Win the league and then the Scottish Cup is the only way that we can call out the refereeing. Otherwise it will look like sour grapes on our part.
 
Colmac said:
Win the league and then the Scottish Cup is the only way that we can call out the refereeing. Otherwise it will look like sour grapes on our part.
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Plenty will say if you are winning why spoil the mood moaning about refs.

Id prefer to ignore results, tables, cup wins or losses and just have everyone from the club speaking about it in front of the media all the time. Maybe from the start of next season, ofcourse then people will say we are worried so there is no perfect time.

I would guess that is the only chance of things changing as at the moment the press set the agenda with refs and you know what that means.

As i said before though it is an almost impossible situation for the board when they know they cant even expect the full backing of our own support. The first thing that has to go is this obsession with Celtic and being so much better then them.
 
Thornliebank_Bear said:
Plenty will say if you are winning why spoil the mood moaning about refs.

Id prefer to ignore results, tables, cup wins or losses and just have everyone from the club speaking about it in front of the media all the time. Maybe from the start of next season, ofcourse then people will say we are worried so there is no perfect time.

I would guess that is the only chance of things changing as at the moment the press set the agenda with refs and you know what that means.

As i said before though it is an almost impossible situation for the board when they know they cant even expect the full backing of our own support. The first thing that has to go is this obsession with Celtic and being so much better then them.
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"Obsession with Celtic" ? Nobody has an "Obsession with Celtic" in the way you mean it.

This is about expecting Refs to apply the rules to all teams including Celtic fairly and not having to worry about being subjected to days and days of media scrutiny of their decisions made in games involving Celtic if they dare to actually apply the rules and then dealing with Celtic fans subjecting them to threats and intimidation & non stop sectarian abuse and the abuse from Rodgers and Celtic.

This has been the case for Beaton who also had to deal with the media piling the pressure on him by looking at a list of all his decisions to pile pressure on to him before their recent match against us.
 
Thornliebank_Bear said:
Plenty will say if you are winning why spoil the mood moaning about refs.

Id prefer to ignore results, tables, cup wins or losses and just have everyone from the club speaking about it in front of the media all the time. Maybe from the start of next season, ofcourse then people will say we are worried so there is no perfect time.

I would guess that is the only chance of things changing as at the moment the press set the agenda with refs and you know what that means.

As i said before though it is an almost impossible situation for the board when they know they cant even expect the full backing of our own support. The first thing that has to go is this obsession with Celtic and being so much better then them.
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Exactly mate.
 
captcaveman said:
Calling out blatant cheating would look like" sour grapes"? How! We aren't asking for anything special mate, just the rules applied fairly for all games.
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Say we loose the league on goal difference and moan about referees?
Think about it?
 
The Rangers board (who have given as much financial backing as most reasonable fans would expect) have not done enough when it comes to addressing the cheating.

Therefore, the board are partly culpable and have fallen short of meeting their fiduciary responsibilities.

Re Collum; irrespective of, whether or not He got abuse online after the Parkpaed game, the class b should've taken it all the way. It was way worse than Dougie ~ Dougie gate.

I don't know if there's something going on behind the scenes that prevents Rangers from getting tore in, I hope that it's not the 5 way agreement
 
Colmac said:
Say we loose the league on goal difference and moan about referees?
Think about it?
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So, we should care what people that hate us think? Why? I would think it would be better for the game up here if it was reffed fairly and that is just not happening at all .
 
captcaveman said:
"Obsession with Celtic" ? Nobody has an "Obsession with Celtic" in the way you mean it.

This is about expecting Refs to apply the rules to all teams including Celtic fairly and not having to worry about being subjected to days and days of media scrutiny of their decisions made in games involving Celtic if they dare to actually apply the rules and then dealing with Celtic fans subjecting them to threats and intimidation & non stop sectarian abuse and the abuse from Rodgers and Celtic.

This has been the case for Beaton who also had to deal with the media piling the pressure on him by looking at a list of all his decisions to pile pressure on to him before their recent match against us.
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Im not talking about anyone that wants fair treatment and an end to refs causing us problems or helping our main rivals out (which they did once again at the weekend v Aberdeen as it was close).

I mean fans that defend the refs by going on all day about the tims support or wanting to prove they are better than that lot..... you can ignore it if you want but a lot of our fans dont agree with the view that refs are biased and i think that makes this subject or situation even tougher for our board.
 
Willie81 said:
Other clubs don’t say anything when it’s the mentally challengeds. I was in the pub with team mates after a local football match on Saturday whilst match was on. One of them a sheep, pipes up “the huns would get 2 penalties for that.” Unbelievable
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I hope you slapped him for calling you a hun?
 
Thornliebank_Bear said:
Im not talking about anyone that wants fair treatment and an end to refs causing us problems or helping our main rivals out (which they did once again at the weekend v Aberdeen as it was close).

I mean fans that defend the refs by going on all day about the tims support or wanting to prove they are better than that lot..... you can ignore it if you want but a lot of our fans dont agree with the view that refs are biased and i think that makes this subject or situation even tougher for our board.
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If we keep saying nothing after being repeatedly cheated, then expect the cheating to continue. You reckon Celtc would be keeping quiet if they hadn't received a penalty at Ibrox in 14 years, mate. ? Our silence is costing us tens of millions of pounds every season.
 
legalbeagle said:
Two things that jump out: 1) wanting us to ‘call out’ decisions in games that we aren’t playing in seems unlikely; 2) there is always a lot of demand for us to ‘do something’ but I’m always waiting to hear what that ‘something’ is and what positive impact it will have.
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You call out every official every game, highlight the gaffes. Most other clubs do so.

What is your problem with that?
 
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wee bud's pit boots said:
You call out every official every game, highlight the gaffes. Most other clubs do so.

What is your problem with that?
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In games we aren’t even playing in?

The manager usually does say if he wasn’t happy with a decision in a game, I assumed that the OP was looking for more than that, and I was curious as to what that looks like.
 
Willie81 said:
Other clubs don’t say anything when it’s the mentally challengeds. I was in the pub with team mates after a local football match on Saturday whilst match was on. One of them a sheep, pipes up “the huns would get 2 penalties for that.” Unbelievable
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These are the deliberate deaf and blind typical sheep that won't follow the Shepherds but happy to follow the past coaches of Celtic's trail of smarties into the Torbett Trophy Room (Not quite like the Oval office but know as the Ring)!
 
muttley said:
If we keep saying nothing after being repeatedly cheated, then expect the cheating to continue. You reckon Celtc would be keeping quiet if they hadn't received a penalty at Ibrox in 14 years, mate. ? Our silence is costing us tens of millions of pounds every season.
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Truth is for the integrity of our game trophies they won with the help of match officials bad or deliberate decisions should be stricken from them!

As for their ring of shame they should be made to start in the bottom league if even at all? One thing for sure they should be punished severely!
 
captcaveman said:
So, we should care what people that hate us think? Why? I would think it would be better for the game up here if it was reffed fairly and that is just not happening at all .
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Everyone agrees about the state of referring in this country…..but not many will side with Rangers if we bring it up, we have seen it all before..
If you are winning leagues and cups it gives us a platform to shout louder and have more ears listening……that’s what I’m saying.
 
Colmac said:
Everyone agrees about the state of referring in this country…..but not many will side with Rangers if we bring it up, we have seen it all before..
If you are winning leagues and cups it gives us a platform to shout louder and have more ears listening……that’s what I’m saying.
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Who cares if they don't agree? We do this and start looking after whats best for us and if others want to stand up and be counted then great but ,if not, that's up to them
 
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douzpwa said:
Truth is for the integrity of our game trophies they won with the help of match officials bad or deliberate decisions should be stricken from them!

As for their ring of shame they should be made to start in the bottom league if even at all? One thing for sure they should be punished severely!
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Truth is they think the same regarding trophies we win.

Second paragraph I don't agree. They should be kicked out of Scottish football for the crimes that club have committed, let them %^*& off to Ireland.
 
paphosranger said:
Truth is they think the same regarding trophies we win.

Second paragraph I don't agree. They should be kicked out of Scottish football for the crimes that club have committed, let them %^*& off to Ireland.
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Trophies we won! Something they do forget regardless of the retrospective changes of EBT loophole it was not illegal and some of the players we brought in put their own missing fans bums in their seats! Just about all those who wanted us gone from opposing fans, media sports, newspapers they all made money before their onslaught against us, double double win for these people!

These trophies were won fair and square! Theirs however is another story!

Lol great last line! I know it would never happen nonetheless but just a nice thought!
 
Colmac said:
Everyone agrees about the state of referring in this country…..but not many will side with Rangers if we bring it up, we have seen it all before..
If you are winning leagues and cups it gives us a platform to shout louder and have more ears listening……that’s what I’m saying.
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We won't be winning many Leagues and Cups if the ref situation is not finally faced up to.

They are openly mocking us today with Collum's Head of Refs appointment.
 
The Sentinal said:
The current PLC board at CFC needs to removed before Scottish football can heal.

They are the ones who ensured we got triple relegated to the depths of Scottish football so they could hoover up the CL cash and consolidate their wealth.

Now we are in a situation where their influence is so great that, even when they look like losing, their refereeing fraternity will pull out the stops to ensure their heroes remain on top
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and the others who voted against entry to the league....
 
KJ_Rozental said:
The only way to make any real change in the game is to get the backing of the majority of other member clubs.

Maybe we should do a charm offensive for the next season and tell Dundee Utd to let bygones be bygones, sure the fans would love that. :D
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Exactly mate, building bridges, the FF community won't stand for it.
 
muttley said:
We won't be winning many Leagues and Cups if the ref situation is not finally faced up to.

They are openly mocking us today with Collum's Head of Refs appointment.
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Suspect that the likes of Beaton or any other ref that the unwashed peasant hordes have taken offence too will be handed none of their games going forward. Its more or less match fixing by a corrupt and sectarian governing body.
 
Who do you call it out to? The very ppl who have a constant foot on our throat. Apathetic Rangers fans and a loyalist community allowed them footholds in every walk of society
 
daven37 said:
Exactly how the scum want us to think. They are using this to their advantage.
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What do you want us to do?

We told the rest we'd pay for an independent enquiry. They refused it.

So all we can do is look out for ourselves.

Also, if we call these rats out at every turn, maybe it will embolden others to stick up for themselves.

I'll repeat, I want no truck or friendship or forming bonds with Rangers haters.
 
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wee bud's pit boots said:
What do you want us to do?

We told the rest we'd pay for an independent enquiry. They refused it.

So all we can do is look out for ourselves.

Also, if we call these rats out at every turn, maybe it will embolden others to stick up for themselves.

I'll repeat, I want no truck or friendship or forming bonds with Rangers haters.
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We tried the calling the rats out tactic after the first game at the piggery this season. We had them over a barrel and even had the media seeing our point of view.

What happened? We made an arse of it by releasing - through fan media - that we had asked for Collum never to ref our games again.

Our PR continues to let us down. Another area of the club that needs a long overdue revamp.

If we go down the road of calling the rats out at every turn then we need to do it right, know what fights to pick and know what fights to leave them to dig a hole for themselves.

There is a case there to persist with the rest - show them leadership and show how Scottish football can improve without the current scumbags involved. We will continue to get screwed until things change and we can't change things alone.

How that change is brought about sooner rather than later, I don't know.

First things first, we need to get our summer comings and going spot on.
 
daven37 said:
We tried the calling the rats out tactic after the first game at the piggery this season. We had them over a barrel and even had the media seeing our point of view.

What happened? We made an arse of it by releasing - through fan media - that we had asked for Collum never to ref our games again.

Our PR continues to let us down. Another area of the club that needs a long overdue revamp.

If we go down the road of calling the rats out at every turn then we need to do it right, know what fights to pick and know what fights to leave them to dig a hole for themselves.

There is a case there to persist with the rest - show them leadership and show how Scottish football can improve without the current scumbags involved. We will continue to get screwed until things change and we can't change things alone.

How that change is brought about sooner rather than later, I don't know.

First things first, we need to get our summer comings and going spot on.
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There is nothing in that post I can disagree with. Especially our PR.
But in the meantime we need to plough our own furrow and hope others get the bigger picture.

I'm not sure about the others, though?
 
captcaveman said:
Calling out blatant cheating would look like" sour grapes"? How! We aren't asking for anything special mate, just the rules applied fairly for all games.
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What I mean is more people will listen if your winning leagues and cup.
Not that we should not question the standard or the state of referees in this country.
 
No wonder Rodgers said they were going to have fun when we played them last week. He must have known collum was doing his last game and guaranteed them going out in a blaze of glorious cheating and that's what happened. The referees are corrupt celtic fans or absolutely hopeless cowardly supposedly Rangers fans. It was obvious on Wednesday at Kilmarnock when celtic fan Robertson ignored an arm in the face ok Killie player played on even though player was down with head injury to allow his team to score. Looked a foul but a Celtic one so no action. We would've had a foul given against us by var definitely.
We have this clown tomorrow . Wil he gets red cards out to help Celtic in final. Wouldn't be a surprise
 
We haven't been good enough to win the league since Gerrard. That's on us. You cry about refs, I'll cry about shechty defensive errors and poor decision making in the final third. We will never win again until our defense tightens up, our midfield contribute with goals and our front players scored winning goals instead of consolations. But hey ho, new refs will get us over the line. No...they won't.
 
Blue 9 said:
Unfortunately nothing we do or say has any bearing on Scottish football , we are treated with utter contempt and no one pays any attention to our views.
We have be neutered as a force .
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Demotion, has set us back even more than they could imagine, let alone us. They almost killed us, but in reality the mountain we have to climb now is almost insurmountable, years of champions league cash has neutered us. I’m great believer that it’s cyclical in a normal set up, but this is far from normal,as we know it. They have all their ducks in a row, and it’s actually quite sickening.
 
looway said:
We haven't been good enough to win the league since Gerrard. That's on us. You cry about refs, I'll cry about shechty defensive errors and poor decision making in the final third. We will never win again until our defense tightens up, our midfield contribute with goals and our front players scored winning goals instead of consolations. But hey ho, new refs will get us over the line. No...they won't.
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So, refereeing decisions do not impact results whatsoever? That’s what you’re saying!

Regardless of how poor Rangers have been Celtic were for at least half the season even poorer.

Referees bailed them out time after time while applying different standards to Rangers. The one occasion when an important decision went against them - Hearts’ penalty at Tynecastle - led to the predictable melt-down and witch-hunt (of Beaton, rather than Robertson, interestingly). That Celtic had already been awarded a penalty for a blatant dive is left unspoken! Double standards were shown yet again with the slap-on-the-wrist punishment to Rodgers.

The appointment of Collum as referee supremo shows how brazen the corruption really is in this country. This clown was caught blatantly cheating at the Old Firm game in December - it was so obvious a desperate attempt was made to cover up for him.
 
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