With respect i think il wait until the structural engineers report back to the club with their findings
Ibrox capacity increase
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With respect i think il wait until the structural engineers report back to the club with their findings
LOL 133
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I see. Perhaps we could do likewise.
Why so, mate?
You don't seem to be a big fan of the current board.
Is that a fair assertion?
HenningBerg
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The study has been going on for months . Robinson has stated we will have a final answer in two months time . If it’s a non starter , why on earth kwpyld he have mentioned it at all ? There must be positive noises coming from the feasibility study otherwise as I say it would’ve been kept quiet .
We are rightly all extremely passionate about Ibrox and he knows saying what he did would whip us into a frenzy . Massive own goal to mention it if something isn’t going to come of it , just my opinion .
LOL 133
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Safe standing wasnt allowed till Celtic applied for a trial. We should apply for a trial with a ratio of 1 to 1.2. Rules can and do change.
CaptainCourageous
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Good to hear. I would love to remove the screens and add seating along with safe standing. Don't know how viable that all is but it would certainly add to the capacity and atmosphere.
Midfield General
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LET'S treat this at face value and believe the intention is there.As far as I am aware everything DK has said would happen has.
Negativity is expected from our enemies not from within.If DK and the Board were sitting on their hands doing nothing they would be due criticism but not for trying to make improvements.w
Negativity is expected from our enemies not from within.If DK and the Board were sitting on their hands doing nothing they would be due criticism but not for trying to make improvements.w
Great that we are even looking st this imo
With all due respect, I don’t think the club should be pushing the safety parameters on this issue. I don’t think I have to go into the reasons why.
It’s worth looking into every option we have. I know people have said in the past that structurally that we couldn’t fill the corners with seats, I wonder however if there is way to use them for safe standing.
If we can add seats, at a low cost, then we absolutely should do it.
It’s bizarre the amount of people calling it pie in the sky.
If we can add seats, at a low cost, then we absolutely should do it.
It’s bizarre the amount of people calling it pie in the sky.
This news pleases me, onward and upward Rangers, keep moving, keep developing, keep growing as a club and a worldwide brand.
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
As I see it mate there are two issues to overcome with your solution. Firstly, the depth of the terracing steps the rail seating would sit on. You say the steps depth could be increased. I bow to your knowledge as a QS but am at a loss as to how we could make the steps deeper yet keep the same number of rows. Secondly the authorities (football, or Government?) would need to approve the ratio you suggest rather than 1:1. Would they do so? If it’s the SFA probably not. If it’s Westminster I think they’ve a lot of other stuff on their plate right now.
As I’ve said before, anything is possible with the will and the cash but, logic dictates, the easy solution of 1:1 on existing steps is the more practicable, cheaper and faster solution. IF the Club even want to go down the SS route.
Unless we can solve the issue with the area behind the screens supporting the roof, there will be no seats in where the screens are unless some modern construction advancements have changed the possibility as it was looked into previously and found to not be possible at the time.
Our pitch is already the lowest it can be, there’s ways around it but not cost effective at all.
rangeral
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I have added a picture to so what I mean
LOL 133
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I saw that. Cheers.
If we can somehow fill in the corners and make the Broomloan and Copland stands one massive stand instead of being divided into front and rears, just imagine how good the atmosphere could be at Ibrox!
This is nonsense. If we built a museum every single one of us would want to visit it at some point. It would be a money maker on match day and can be added onto the tour cost as well.
55 and counting
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He also mentioned this while out at the ORSA convention.
Bearnecessities
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Dont think he would have, he spent %^*& all on the stadium which is what Robertson is alluding to when he says we have had to heavily invest.
He was attention seeking and all he cared about was feeding his own ego so he spun a load of nonsense and all he looked at was the short term solution spending on the team on pitch.
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LarkfiedLoyalNS
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More ghost supporters clubs, people on the cccs, less away tickets, 0 pointers getting on day trips!
Pardon my ignorance, how did Bar72 increase capacity? I always just assumed they were a section of existing seats with a good view bundled with the added extra’s.
Bearnecessities
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Not sure why it would with an open top stadium, different if it was closed would required some sort of natural or mechanical ventilation
rangeral
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If we ever allowed traditional standing areas again then the Dortmund model would be great to comply with European matches
As I said before not against safe standing but fully aware of the logistics behind it been installed in Ibrox and why currently can only be 1:1
We probably need to rip out the existing concentre base and remodelled to ensure a 1:1.8 could happen but that might mean that we lose a couple rows of seats in the process
Marstonbear
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So all those people who go on the Ibrox tour, none of them would go in the museum if we had one?
LOL 133
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Im no expert but it seems to me that you could add additional rows if the rows were slightly shallower. Im not talking about a huge difference. Turn 5 rows into 6 therby adding 20%. Im sure there are architects out there that could do this easily. If not I'll get my daughter to do it.
With regards to cost. Of course it would be less expensive to install ss at 1 to 1 but the thread was about increasing capacity. Im suggesting the cheapest way to do this is through ss at a ratio greater than 1 to 1.
I appreciate there are legal and political hurdles to be overcome, just like our fanzone, but we seem to be making some progress in the political sphere.
I dont see any real viable alternatives if we want to increase capacity.
55 and counting
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Well as he talked about this at ORSA I'll say they're looking into it and have been for a while whether it's feasible is another matter.
DocMartens
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Hairy pie - my favourite.
LOL 133
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I dont think we need to go as high as 1 to 1.8. Re doing the concrete by turning 5 rows into 6 adds 20% to the capacity. If we go for 1 to 1.5 it adds 50%.
Dont be surprised if Liwell does this first.
bedsblue
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This or something similar,i've been banging on about this for ages,so many seats empty when we play teams that don't have a support to fill them is so fkn irritating.
More ghost supporters clubs, people on the cccs, less away tickets, 0 pointers getting on day trips!
We didn’t start the fire.
The_red_rocket
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It’s a cantilever structure that was added to the existing stand. Basically an overhang.
Virgil Hilts
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Any. capacity of note would financially kneecap Rangers for decades to come.
Polish the diamond we already own.
Polish the diamond we already own.
A £10 once a year from thousands of visitors will not make up for the 3-5k times £450 per year that the extra seats would bring in.
It will all depend if it is feasible.
LOL 133
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I guess you're referring to 1971. This wasnt related to standing/ seating but I do understand the sensitivity. I was there and knew one of the victims. I also attended the unveiling of the memorial at Markinch. It was very emotional.
An extra 3 rows were “bolted on” to the front of the rear section and there is now a bigger overhang above the front section. Think it added an extra 600 seats or something.
Was said before this couldn’t be done at Copland and Broomloan stands as they are built differently with no room for overhanging rows of seats.
It can be done to double the capacity of that particular area. 2 to 1.
You do understand SRs statement saying we are looking to see if feasible and cost prohibitive?
cuellarsbraces
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It wouldn’t make any money. There is no footfall other than a match day. Stadium tours don’t generate enough people to make it viable. It’s been Looked at many times by the club, it’s not financially viable irrespective of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from folk on here.
LOL 133
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Put them in the far corner of the WE.
LOL 133
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I think the max is 1 to 1.8.
rangeral
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yeah true we can only go on what we are told the those that give permission for it
StirlingBear
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Said it i the hundreds of stadium upgrade threads we have had that the easiest and most cost efficient way of increasing the capacity would be to extend the rear of the Govan coplan and broomie.
One major problem would be the back of the Govan stand as it houses a lot of boxes and things like the argyl house restaurant but would see no reason they could not be incorporated into any expansion.
The corners being filled come with a host of problems not just the main one being the roof. And for little in the way of capacity increase.
Don't think it's fair to call it pie in the sky stuff, some engineers are brilliant working with them every day is something you notice. This type of project also would need to cost effective or its pointless unless one of our fantastic and incredibly wealthy board members were to take the hit on any new works.
One major problem would be the back of the Govan stand as it houses a lot of boxes and things like the argyl house restaurant but would see no reason they could not be incorporated into any expansion.
The corners being filled come with a host of problems not just the main one being the roof. And for little in the way of capacity increase.
Don't think it's fair to call it pie in the sky stuff, some engineers are brilliant working with them every day is something you notice. This type of project also would need to cost effective or its pointless unless one of our fantastic and incredibly wealthy board members were to take the hit on any new works.
