SFA self sabotage/destruction seems like lunacy, until you understand real motive

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The SFA is, at first sight, a sports team and a business, you would expect its principle aims would be to have a successful team and a profitable business. If you do, you'd be wrong.

The SFA has been intent on driving a wedge between Rangers and their support and the national team for decades. Like many Bears, I remember the days when Rangers buses doubled up as Scotland buses for midweek games. It changed when Souness arrived, IMO at first coz the SFA thought Rangers were getting "too big for their boots", right up to the disgrace that was the treatment of Duncan Ferguson, convicted for an action that happens every week in every pitch from Pitz to pub league to SPFL. Then, things took a much more sinister turn, the Celtic Minded started consolidating power in the SFA and SPFL and the media and in politics.

From the mid 90s, Rangers players have been routinely booed by the Scotland support, not because of anything performance related, but because they play for Rangers. The media, politicians and the SFA have never once challenged this or tried to address it - imagine for a moment it had been Celtic players being booed and harassed, we all know the fallout, if it happened even once, let alone constantly for 25 years. Every hack and imbecile in office would be falling over themselves to publicly denounce whatever vapid virtue signalling would elicit the most woke points. The SFA would have another "task force" of self anointed buffoons on another talking shop jolly of condescension we'd all be forced to suffer.

But when it's Rangers players (and now even Rangers supporting players) getting it tight, that's alright. The conspiracy of silence is tacit support for the abuse. IMO Rangers fans make up say 35-40% of all football fans in Scotland, why would a business alienate 40% of its potential customers? But it's even more than that, internationals are predominantly mid-week, those most likely to attend live reasonably close to Hampden - within the geographical zone of "likely to attend" Rangers fans make up, what, 55-60% of potential customers?

What business sets out to alienate more than half its customer base, it'd be like Starbucks saying "Women not Welcome". This must be madness? No, it's perfectly logical when you understand the real agenda. The "Celtic minded" dominate the SFA, SPFL, media and politics. The Celtic minded do not care about Scotland, if you want to know where their loyalties lie, look at what flag flies from their stands. For the Celtic minded, the SFA is a well paid jolly, which allows them to progress their real and only agenda, help Celtic and harm Rangers. It's a simple as that, Scotland results are irrelevant as they dont care. The SFA arent going anywhere, so long as there is football in Scotland there will be the SFA.

Further, they have the Rangers haters in the Dandy Dons and Hibernian, these morons actually want Scotland to do well, but they hate Rangers so much they can't see that they are being used, again, as Lawwell's wank rag, which is evidently their sole value and purpose. These clowns are happy to carry on booing Rangers players, which keeps Rangers fans away, which means empty stands, lower revenue, bad atmosphere and harm for the team, so long as they get it up Rangers.

Whilst the Celtic minded dominate the SFA, SPFL, media and politics (and with the recent shame of the child abuse summit at Celtic park, now the Police) things will only get worse, as evidenced both by results and that the Scotland support in the absence of Rangers players playing, are now directing their ire at Rangers supporting players. And it will never be challenged.
 
They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probation on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.
 
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They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probabtion on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.
What alternate universe do you live in ? Rangers players have been booed by the McBravehearts since the early 90's.
Denmark at Ibrox. Brian Laudrup booed by virtually the entire stadium for the entire duration. The media excuse for this was because he played for the ' old firm '. Which is the standard drivel we have now become used to for decades considering Rieper and Wieghorst from the scum received little or no abuse at all in the same game.
 
If that was the case, why did they bother transferring the membership from oldco to newco? Surely that was the chance to fulfil their aim?

They tried every underhand trick in the book to make our brand as toxic as they could in the hope that it would deter proper businessmen from investing and it worked. We ended up with another charlatan whose only interest was to rape us still further.
 
They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probabtion on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.
I give you Ian Ferguson, many years ago.
 
They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probabtion on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.

Not true ive been at Hampden 10 so years ago and we had a good chunk of the team ferguson, boyd, miller etc and they were booed was actually a game against Lithuania i think where boyd scored and apart from the cheer for his goal was booed constantly. I have up going at that point the realisation that the rest of Scotland hates us no matter what.

But ultimately this is driven from a political agenda around independence and the snp as we are seen as a unionist club.

The indy ref was one of the worst things to happen to this country and with we like it or not there is religious undertones as the catholic Church switched to snp from Labour it has created a horrified country to live in
 
This agenda has been obvious for years. The Celtic minded who now control Scottish football and media want it to die a slow painful death, and to destroy Rangers in the process.
Rangers are identified with the Unionist and Protestant cause, therefore they are a threat to the Republicans (Scottish & Irish) and religious haters.
The ultimate aim is to reduce the level of football in Scotland to that of a part-time low level joke of a league. This will inevitively (they hope) lead to Celtic making the case that they are too big for Scottish football, and to help both them and Scotland develop, they must leave, either to England or a new European super league. With Rangers dead, and Celtic away enjoying countless millions elsewhere, the diddy clubs like Aberdeen and Hibs can enjoy winning pointless league titles.
I was going to add that the destruction of Scottish football would be colateral damage, but that is wrong. Colateral damage is a necessary and unfortunate side effect that must happen if the 'greater good' is to be achieved. This is not so, the destruction of Scottish football as a serious player is deliberate. Our enemy play a long game (Sinn Fein and the Vatican are experts at this).
The destruction of Rangers was a critical point in this strategy, but they fucked it up first time round. They have got their second wind and are coming back again. The other clubs are either too short sighted to realise the damage they are doing, or, more likely, they just don't give a shit. A wee diddy association, in a wee diddy country comprised of wee diddy clubs with wee diddy mindsets, such is the future of Scottish football, with those who hate Scotland laughing all the way to the big tournaments.
 
It started in earnest with Walker then Farry. It's no coincidence that the SFA blazers appeared more regularly in the press with them. Before that, the average supporter wouldn't be able to name a committee member

Their egos couldn't handle big personalities like Souness or Murray in "their" FA
 
I recall the days when Rangers supporters used to get upset when our players were overlooked when the Scottish team was selected. Now, they are glad. I recall when Rangers supporters used to get disappointed the Scottish team lost but now the disappointment has been replaced by indifference. Previous posters are spot on. Those who hold office at the SFA have brought this situation on themselves but are too shortsighted to care.
 
They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probabtion on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.
They charged him and found him guilty before the court case no way was the court going to go and find him anything but guilty they should have let the courts decide first
 
The booing really started after the Barry Ferguson two fingered salute and he and McGregor got it from the trannies.

They don't want us dead , they want us to be weak and beatable on every front for as long as possible but still bring in the blue pound.
 
They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probabtion on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.

Think you’ve forgotten about Ian Ferguson and when we signed Colin Hendry he was the `Scotland captain. He got booed at almost every away ground in Scotland.

So ram your :hysterical pish” and keep trying to minimise the hatred for us that is now normal throughout Scottish Football, outwith the SPL.
 
Think you’ve forgotten about Ian Ferguson and when we signed Colin Hendry he was the `Scotland captain. He got booed at almost every away ground in Scotland.

So ram your :hysterical pish” and keep trying to minimise the hatred for us that is now normal throughout Scottish Football, outwith the SPL.

Should we be cheering James Forrest and Callum McGregor next time they come to Ibrox?
 
They charged him and found him guilty before the court case no way was the court going to go and find him anything but guilty they should have let the courts decide first

Aye, the SFA charging him is what swung it. He would've gotten away with it otherwise.
 
Celtic want us gone. They still actively plot away. They drive the agenda. The diddy clubs always end up toeing the line.
They need us. Remember they were playing to under 30k when we were down ? Our problem's are down to
Murray never fought our corner and was financially reckless.
Media increasingly full of Celtic minded.
Independence referendum of 2014 polarised the country.
SNP much more openly republican and pro Sinn Fein than Labour ever was.
 
The SFA is, at first sight, a sports team and a business, you would expect its principle aims would be to have a successful team and a profitable business. If you do, you'd be wrong.

The SFA has been intent on driving a wedge between Rangers and their support and the national team for decades. Like many Bears, I remember the days when Rangers buses doubled up as Scotland buses for midweek games. It changed when Souness arrived, IMO at first coz the SFA thought Rangers were getting "too big for their boots", right up to the disgrace that was the treatment of Duncan Ferguson, convicted for an action that happens every week in every pitch from Pitz to pub league to SPFL. Then, things took a much more sinister turn, the Celtic Minded started consolidating power in the SFA and SPFL and the media and in politics.

From the mid 90s, Rangers players have been routinely booed by the Scotland support, not because of anything performance related, but because they play for Rangers. The media, politicians and the SFA have never once challenged this or tried to address it - imagine for a moment it had been Celtic players being booed and harassed, we all know the fallout, if it happened even once, let alone constantly for 25 years. Every hack and imbecile in office would be falling over themselves to publicly denounce whatever vapid virtue signalling would elicit the most woke points. The SFA would have another "task force" of self anointed buffoons on another talking shop jolly of condescension we'd all be forced to suffer.

But when it's Rangers players (and now even Rangers supporting players) getting it tight, that's alright. The conspiracy of silence is tacit support for the abuse. IMO Rangers fans make up say 35-40% of all football fans in Scotland, why would a business alienate 40% of its potential customers? But it's even more than that, internationals are predominantly mid-week, those most likely to attend live reasonably close to Hampden - within the geographical zone of "likely to attend" Rangers fans make up, what, 55-60% of potential customers?

What business sets out to alienate more than half its customer base, it'd be like Starbucks saying "Women not Welcome". This must be madness? No, it's perfectly logical when you understand the real agenda. The "Celtic minded" dominate the SFA, SPFL, media and politics. The Celtic minded do not care about Scotland, if you want to know where their loyalties lie, look at what flag flies from their stands. For the Celtic minded, the SFA is a well paid jolly, which allows them to progress their real and only agenda, help Celtic and harm Rangers. It's a simple as that, Scotland results are irrelevant as they dont care. The SFA arent going anywhere, so long as there is football in Scotland there will be the SFA.

Further, they have the Rangers haters in the Dandy Dons and Hibernian, these morons actually want Scotland to do well, but they hate Rangers so much they can't see that they are being used, again, as Lawwell's wank rag, which is evidently their sole value and purpose. These clowns are happy to carry on booing Rangers players, which keeps Rangers fans away, which means empty stands, lower revenue, bad atmosphere and harm for the team, so long as they get it up Rangers.

Whilst the Celtic minded dominate the SFA, SPFL, media and politics (and with the recent shame of the child abuse summit at Celtic park, now the Police) things will only get worse, as evidenced both by results and that the Scotland support in the absence of Rangers players playing, are now directing their ire at Rangers supporting players. And it will never be challenged.

I’ll say it again, and I do agree with your sentiments, VOTE THEM OUT, whether it be Government/Local/Unions/Organisations, however Non RCs are lazy. We want someone else to take on the mantle, RCs are United they know what they want, WE ARE THE MAJORITY, STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!
 
What alternate universe do you live in ? Rangers players have been booed by the McBravehearts since the early 90's.
Denmark at Ibrox. Brian Laudrup booed by virtually the entire stadium for the entire duration. The media excuse for this was because he played for the ' old firm '. Which is the standard drivel we have now become used to for decades considering Rieper and Wieghorst from the scum received little or no abuse at all in the same game.

What about Stuart McCall?
 
They need us. Remember they were playing to under 30k when we were down ? Our problem's are down to
Murray never fought our corner and was financially reckless.
Media increasingly full of Celtic minded.
Independence referendum of 2014 polarised the country.
SNP much more openly republican and pro Sinn Fein than Labour ever was.

Celtic want to be in a bigger league, whether it be European or EPL. That is their long game and they don’t care how damaged the franchise is that they leave behind.
 
They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probabtion on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.
When Scotland lost to, I think it was the Dutch, David Weir caused us the goal and Kenny Miller missed a great chance.
Both were berated in the following midweek’s game.
 
Don’t be an idiot, we signed the Scottish Captain and he got booed, what the eff does that have to do with 2 Mhanks playing against us?
Did I ask for people to cheer Colin Hendry?
You’re an apologist for scummy behaviour.
Booing opposition players is 'scummy behaviour'? Nonsense.
 
They are primarily a governing body, not a sports team.

Fergusons conviction had nothing to do with the SFA. And players don't tend to breach the terms of their probabtion on pitches in every league, every weekend. Particularly not in front of the assembled media and hundreds of polis

Rangers players havent been routinely booed since the mid 90s. Its a far more recent phenomenon and has only really been aimed at three players (Wallace, Black, Jack). It certainly hasnt been happening 'constantly for 25 years'.

Hysterical pish.

I agree with your first two points, but not the third. I was a regular at Scotland games until quite recently, and there has been a element for quite a few years that booed Rangers players - generally pissed up sheep fans or similar. I once heard one shout 'Why are you bringing that old hun barsteward on' when McCoist came on as a sub, only for him to be jumping about when Ally scored the winner. the difference is as fewer and fewer Rangers fans go to Scotland games, their numbers have grown and grown bolder.
 
It started in earnest with Walker then Farry. It's no coincidence that the SFA blazers appeared more regularly in the press with them. Before that, the average supporter wouldn't be able to name a committee member

Their egos couldn't handle big personalities like Souness or Murray in "their" FA

I'd argue the other way, Walker and Farry did not allow any club to exert overdue influence Scottish Football, it was only after Farry was deposed and replaced by a weak placeman that you started to see the SFA President etc come to the fore. That was one reason why farry's dismissal was done the way it was, but a small sub-committee - his opposition to a break away SPL made him a enemy, and the Cadette thing provided them with the ammunition.
 
How’s resolution 12 coming along ? Any progress ?
There does not seem to have been much progress, but we should all remember that the CO was passed 2 charges by her predecessor, which are still under consideration.
They are still after Rangers titles and trophies.
 
RE The Ferguson situation - it was an attempt to keep the PF at bay by saying 'look, we are capable of dealing with this ourselves'. If it had been any other player e.g. one not already on probabtion for a previous assault case) I suspect no action would have been taken by the PF
 
I agree with your first two points, but not the third. I was a regular at Scotland games until quite recently, and there has been a element for quite a few years that booed Rangers players - generally pissed up sheep fans or similar. I once heard one shout 'Why are you bringing that old hun barsteward on' when McCoist came on as a sub, only for him to be jumping about when Ally scored the winner. the difference is as fewer and fewer Rangers fans go to Scotland games, their numbers have grown and grown bolder.

You're always going to get the odd one or two that will shout such stuff. There was probably someone shouting similar at Greig. It was far from the majority - or even a sizeable group until relatively recently.

Someone said it ramped up around Ferguson/McGregor and that's probably about right. Until then we still made up a decent part of the squad and support and it has eroded ever since.
 
What alternate universe do you live in ? Rangers players have been booed by the McBravehearts since the early 90's.
Denmark at Ibrox. Brian Laudrup booed by virtually the entire stadium for the entire duration. The media excuse for this was because he played for the ' old firm '. Which is the standard drivel we have now become used to for decades considering Rieper and Wieghorst from the scum received little or no abuse at all in the same game.

Correct mate.
 
You're always going to get the odd one or two that will shout such stuff. There was probably someone shouting similar at Greig. It was far from the majority - or even a sizeable group until relatively recently.

Someone said it ramped up around Ferguson/McGregor and that's probably about right. Until then we still made up a decent part of the squad and support and it has eroded ever since.

Booing any player who plays for Scotland is scummy behaviour. You’re a sad apologist for the horrible section of The Tartan Army who boo our players. They are morons, but you keep defending them. No doubt you’ll be calling us paranoid next
 
If that was the case, why did they bother transferring the membership from oldco to newco? Surely that was the chance to fulfil their aim?

Ally McCoist says the Scottish Football Association's punishment of Rangers could "kill" the club.
The SFA fined Rangers £160,000 and limited them to signing under-18s for a year for rule breaches mainly connected with Craig Whyte's takeover.
"Plain and simply, I think it is an absolutely shocking decision," manager McCoist told the club website.
"This decision could kill our football club, simple as that. Make no mistake about it."
 
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