The Dutch version of Chris Sutton says Rangers were "hopeless"

[dh1963]

Rangers have been labelled ‘hopeless’ by former Dutch player turned TV pundit Johan Derksen, despite beating Feyenoord in the Europa League.
Steven Gerrard this week revealed he would use the opinions of the Dutch before the opening game in the group to fire up his players and they responded with a deserved 1-0 win.

But that performance failed to impress one of Holland’s most famous football pundits.

Derksen, a journeyman player for five Dutch clubs, before becoming a controversial presenter in the media, reckoned Feyenoord and Rangers were as bad as each other.
He said: “Feyenoord were hopeless, but the sad thing was Rangers were hopeless too.
“The atmosphere at Ibrox was very intimidating and Feyenoord allowed themselves to be scared of the atmosphere.

“If you can’t deal with pressure then you have no chance against Rangers. Feyenoord were overwhelmed physically.
“Rangers can’t play football, but they are physical.
The players of Rangers had a passion when they went on the park that you just don’t see in Dutch football. I don’t think Feyenoord won a tackle in the first half.

“And if you don’t do that, you fail.”

 

[OohAhHuistra]

Hopeless yet outplayed them all game. Football isn’t for some

 

[ChristchurchBear]

Peado

 

[Deek]

Who

 

[Truckerman]

Can't play football!! Aye right we passed them off the park in the first half

 

[Blue 9]

1-0 scud book.

 

[HenningBerg]

More ammunition for gerrard to pin up when we play them next . Ideal .

 

[oranje-viola]

Opened this thread expecting big Vingear of Castlemilk to be spouting gibbersh from his gob


Never heard of this non-entity, seems pure sour grapes

 

[gersandproud]

Still got the win though - eh ?

I'll take being hopeless for all the other Euro games if we win them

 

[Vote For Pedro]

There’s the away leg team talk!

 

[Danger Zone]

Who?

If it was a someone I’d heard of before I might be a tad aggrieved and read the rest of the article, but nahhh

 

[nybear]

Hopeless yet outplayed them all game. Football isn’t for some

bbc says we only had four shots on target and they were over us for most of the game. mean while back in the land of blue skys we won and lots of bigots are hurting.

 

[Big Hepy]

I assume he's not a feyenoord fan? It's the old the team you were playing against is crap and you couldn't beat them pish we get here.

 

[bluenosebazza]

We were that hopeless we should only have been 4-0 up by half time.

 

[OohAhHuistra]

bbc says we only had four shots on target and they were over us for most of the game. mean while back in the land of blue skys we won and lots of bigots are hurting.

All over us haha. When they had the ball we kept our shape and had them passing backwards and sideways. They had a couple of chances at best

 

[TN8]

Johannes Gerrit "Johan" Derksen (born 31 January 1949) is a Dutch sports journalist and former football player. He played professional football between 1966 and 1978 for five clubs: Go Ahead Eagles, Cambuur Leeuwarden, BV Veendam, HFC Haarlem and MVV Maastricht.


Aye nae bother Dennis, or whatever the f*ck your name is.

 

[orjan_persson]

He looks like he's gone ahead with some eagles.

 

[dh1963]

It's probably his way of slagging Feyenoord even more.

They lost, and it wasn't a good team who beat them.

The kind of stuff Sutton, Stewart and co trotted out last season when we lost to Moscow.

 

[cooprfc]

"can't play football"- the old arrogance that football can only be played in neat little triangles and 80% possession.

 

[rodwallace]

It is hyperbole.

But I can see what he's getting at.

On one hand we could have won 4-0 or more.

But on the other our style of play is somewhat limited. During the game I couldn't help think back to previous eras where our pressure on teams was more relentless and there was more variety and flair in our play.

I suppose it's an upwards slope. We are a europa league team right now. In the future when we become a champions league team again I expect to see the sort of flair and style we all saw in the past on some infamous european nights.

 

[oranje-viola]

Johannes Gerrit "Johan" Derksen (born 31 January 1949) is a Dutch sports journalist and former football player. He played professional football between 1966 and 1978 for five clubs: Go Ahead Eagles, Cambuur Leeuwarden, BV Veendam, HFC Haarlem and MVV Maastricht.


Aye nae bother Dennis, or whatever the f*ck your name is.

Derksen was born in Heteren, Gelderland into a right-wing Protestant family.


Traitorous Lundy bastard if so

 

[Jan Wyck]

He should go on holiday with the guy that sits behind me and wanted Morelos subbed in the second half.
Think of the hours they could talk shite at each other.

 

[Orangeandblue]

Don’t know how to post a pic but have a look at the state of him.

Johan Derksen na operatie aan arm: Het ergste heb ik nu gehad

Na een val van de trap en vele ziekenhuisbezoeken is Johan Derksen na een dikke week herstel weer aardig opgelapt. De voetbalanalist is gisteren aan zijn arm geopereerd.

www.rtvdrenthe.nl

 

[giogaddi]

Spoke to a few Feyenoord fans in the pub and they were surprised by how good we were. This guy just sounds clueless.

 

[Renfrew@UKGB&NI]

His football history tell me enough. Only way to make money is to talk pish. Kinda similar to stewarts

 

[Marstonbear]

Proof that the drugs don’t work

 

[cloodie]

The state of the lady's front bottom. He'd fit right in with the pish stained 'journalists' over here

 

[archimedes]

Sounds more like Holland's answer to Michael Stewart to be honest.

 

[O.K. Bear]

I'm beyond rage...

 

[nybear]

All over us haha. When they had the ball we kept our shape and had them passing backwards and sideways. They had a couple of chances at best

thomas duncan saw a different game from the rest of us

 

[Blueranger45]

so he never played for a big team then? probably has no idea what top level football is

unless one of those 5 teams were "big" in those days, not exactly got the best Dutch football knowledge other than the top teams

 

[Orangeandblue]

The state of the lady's front bottom. He'd fit right in with the pish stained 'journalists' over here

The Scum “Ex Dutch ace”

 

[helicopter-sunday]

We should’ve been 3-0 up half-time.

But after that I agree with him, we were absolutely hopeless 2nd half.

Thankfully they were worse.

 

[Recoba]

What is this p1sh ? we played some nice football and cut through them, they had more yellow cards than us and there wasnt one bad tackle in the game.

Absolute bullshit

 

[Recoba]

We should’ve been 3-0 up half-time.

But after that I agree with him, we were absolutely hopeless 2nd half.

Thankfully they were worse.

How could we have been hopeless in the 2nd half when we created numerous chances in the 2nd half and kept a clean sheet ? that's hardly hopeless is it ?

 

[The Predator]

The hurt is strong

 

[Steve_french]

Derka derksen

 

[56 ASAP]

Even the Dutch have their own version of "Mutton". Stir it up all you like, we were the better team.

 

[Wee Dick's Hairnet]

1 nil going about 6 ya fuckwit.

If we were shit then God knows how bad Feyenoord were!

 

[Steve_french]

Johannes Gerrit "Johan" Derksen (born 31 January 1949) is a Dutch sports journalist and former football player. He played professional football between 1966 and 1978 for five clubs: Go Ahead Eagles, Cambuur Leeuwarden, BV Veendam, HFC Haarlem and MVV Maastricht.


Aye nae bother Dennis, or whatever the f*ck your name is.

Just like Micheal Stewart, did %^*& all in his playing career and recons himself as an "expert" go get some lunch ya roaster

 

[Double D]

Sounds like Holland’s version of Michael Stewart.
Haters gonna hate.

 

[Ryzogrumpybear]

Do spec savers have shops in the Netherlands or their version of mental health for the elderly doesn't work either

 

[thornhill bear]

Best ignored not worth raising your blood pressure about

 

[Clubdeckg]

1 nil going on 6! We'll beat them over there

 

[The Ranger]

He must be a secret Tim or is pally with the Scottish media

 

[Bumplittledipper]

Just googled the khont. Looks like a cross between Einstein's daft twin and my old Geography teacher.

 

[TN8]

The state of the lady's front bottom. He'd fit right in with the pish stained 'journalists' over here

 

[Partickger]

For 35 minutes we were excellent in the first half. It’s sad the media all over need to employ clueless trolls to stoke controversy.

 

[Karky Madoolla]

So if that’s us playing bad we should take a few off them if we raise our game ? Auld dosser.

 

[helicopter-sunday]

How could we have been hopeless in the 2nd half when we created numerous chances in the 2nd half and kept a clean sheet ? that's hardly hopeless is it ?

We played the final 30 minutes continuously giving the ball back to a very poor Feyenoord side.

I'm not questioning the result. The bare result was excellent.

Anyone who didn't watch the game will look at the result, '1-0 Rangers' and think - fine result.

But if there's anyone who thinks our performance in the 2nd half was good, then I'd challenge you to watch it back.

Our touch, our passing, our finishing was very poor after the break and I was sitting there watching the game thinking it was only a matter of time before they scored.

Steven Gerrard pretty much said the same thing in the post-match interview.