Celtic fined €12,000 by uefa

Does there ever come a time when FIFA decide dines are no longer a suitable deterrent?? Its absolutely farcical these small fines are still being given to that lot.

We constantly hear that if fans dont stop taking pyro into stadiums then its gona end up costing someone their life. Well if they think a human life is at stake should the deterrent not be a lot bigger than 12k Euros?? Is that the cost of a human life these days??

There comes a point when you need to realise that those supporters dont give a shit about those fines and it's certainly not going to stop them doing what they are doing.

Absolute joke.
 
It seems to be quite random who gets fined for flares, Legia I would have thought were a stick on for a fine but got nothing.
This lot do it every game yet only get fined for the odd one, also strange they never got fined for the objects thrown at Cluj in their first game.
Think it depends on how pissed the delegate is.
 
Sandbear said:
It seems to be quite random who gets fined for flares, Legia I would have thought were a stick on for a fine but got nothing.
This lot do it every game yet only get fined for the odd one, also strange they never got fined for the objects thrown at Cluj in their first game.
Think it depends on how pissed the delegate is.
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Or how well he is looked after in hospitality?
 
Manbearpig said:
You serious? Their fines rarely reach above 10k. Must be the lowest possible sanction everytime they breach the rules. Never have I heard of a physical entity escape justice since OJ Simpson
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Aye, I'm serious.

They were at £537,000 in fines in 10 years up to 2017.

Add the fines in the last 2 years and it's creeping upward and upward.
 
Are their fines getting lower? Maybe reached a peak and the fines go down on a special sellik scale
 
and yet the sellic fans want the lazio fans banned from their own ground as punishment instead of the fine they got as lazio has too many fines against them and only ground closure will send the message

theres a word for that
 
Dear fellow FFrs, I don't see why we should be at all angry, upset, disappointed etc.After all they have friends in high places who are obviously protecting them from stand closures and playing behind closed doors. It should surprise no one on here that once again they have been slapped on the wrist.It is a standard response from UEFA when it comes to handing out punishments to the orcs.
 
UEFA Disciplinary Regulations.

Article 14 Racism and other discriminatory conduct

1 Any person under the scope of Article 3 who insults the human dignity of a person or group of persons on whatever grounds, including skin colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation, incurs a suspension lasting at least ten matches or a specified period of time, or any other appropriate sanction.
2 If one or more of a member association or club’s supporters engage in the behaviour described in paragraph 1, the member association or club responsible is punished with a minimum of a partial stadium closure.
3 The following disciplinary measures apply in the event of recidivism: a. a second offence is punished with one match played behind closed doors and a fine of € 50,000; b. any subsequent offence is punished with more than one match behind closed doors, a stadium closure, the forfeiting of a match, the deduction of points and/or disqualification from the competition.
4 If the circumstances of the case require it, the competent disciplinary body may impose additional disciplinary measures on the member association or club responsible, such as the playing of one or more matches behind closed doors, a stadium closure, the forfeiting of a match, the deduction of points and/or disqualification from the competition.
5 If the match is suspended by the referee because of racist and/or discriminatory conduct, the match may be declared forfeit.
6 The above disciplinary measures may be combined with specific directives aimed at tackling such conduct.


Article 16 Order and security at UEFA competition matches

1 Host clubs and national associations are responsible for order and security both inside and around the stadium before, during and after matches. All associations and clubs shall comply with the obligations as defined in the UEFA Safety and Security Regulations. They are liable for incidents of any kind and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives unless they can prove that they have not been negligent in any way in the organisation of the match.
2 However, all associations and clubs are liable for the following inappropriate behaviour on the part of their supporters and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives even if they can prove the absence of any negligence in relation to the organisation of the match:
a. the invasion of the field of play;
b. the throwing of objects potentially endangering the physical integrity of others present at the match or impacting the orderly running of the match;
c. the lighting of fireworks or any other objects;
d. the use of laser pointers or similar electronic devices;
e. the use of gestures, words, objects or any other means to transmit a provocative message that is not fit for a sports event, particularly provocative messages that are of a political, ideological, religious or offensive nature;
f. acts of damage;
g. causing a disturbance during national anthems;
h. any other lack of order or discipline observed inside or around the stadium.

These seem to be the articles which cover supporter behaviour at games under UEFA rules. Our "crimes" have been dealt with as in Article 14 and theirs are covered by Article 16. Surely our offences could have come under the highlighted quote in paragraph e of Article 16. We probably have FARE to thank for that. :( In any case should the punishments not be similar for all these offences in both Articles?
 
BSPECIAL said:
Are their fines getting lower? Maybe reached a peak and the fines go down on a special sellik scale
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That’s the real issue here, isn’t it.
Crime after crime after crime, times twelve and more, and the punishment never increases.
The same paltry fines.
On top of which, UEFA seem to think singing a proscribed song is so much more serious than setting off flares which cause actual injury to people.
 
Sandbear said:
It seems to be quite random who gets fined for flares, Legia I would have thought were a stick on for a fine but got nothing.
This lot do it every game yet only get fined for the odd one, also strange they never got fined for the objects thrown at Cluj in their first game.
Think it depends on how pissed the delegate is.
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Legia being conducted by the Holy Goalie. The book should have been thrown.
 
More than a joke! I would imagine that probable total of the mentally challengeds many fines will be considerably less than the financial loss we incurred for a one-off closure of a section of a stand.
 
Being glossed over by BBC Five Lice.

They could have reported it by screeching, " TWELVE. THOUSAND. POUNDS!!!11!" in that usual way the BBC do when they want to tell us what to think.

Missed a trick there, Declan.
 
So they keep breaking the same rules time after time n the punishment doesn’t get any greater!!
snif! Snif!
1-flares can scar people for life!
2-Bangers are enough give some old buddy a heart attack,strike the death of fear into a young supporter and cause serious damage.
3-throwing missiles could seriously hurt someone!
12k fine,12k fine,12k fine,12k fine,12k fine!!!!

sing bad words!!
1-close sections of the stadium!!

sing more bad words!!

2- shut stadium doon!!

where’s the justice?
Where’s the sense?
When did words become more harmful to people than burning someone, bursting someone’s ear drum and burst someone’s head or taking ther eye out!!

absolutely crazy!!
 
Sandbear said:
It seems to be quite random who gets fined for flares, Legia I would have thought were a stick on for a fine but got nothing.
This lot do it every game yet only get fined for the odd one, also strange they never got fined for the objects thrown at Cluj in their first game.
Think it depends on how pissed the delegate is.
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Maybe the delegtes are of the Beast's variety and are made to feel right at home in the Chambers of Secrets.
 
Listened to SSB (I know) but the panelists say that flares are nowhere near as serious/dangerous as sectarian singing.

no mention of the fact that flares / pyro could cause a fire, burning or injury. I say this In The full knowledge that we have used flares also.

it’s just amazing how low key the tims fines and Indiscretions are. Mark Wilson “they add colour to the game”.

Imagine sitting at the cinema or in the pub and letting off a flare?
 
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