Players who have moved from Scotland to England and flopped

[helicopter-sunday]

After all this talk of Morelos and most recently Kamara being targeted by English sides, it got me thinking of players from Scotland, not just the Old Firm, who have moved from Scotland to England and flopped.

I don't think there's many in recent times.

When you think of McGinn moving from Hibs to Aston Villa and now he's rumoured to be interesting Man Utd.

Ryan Fraser from Aberdeen to Bournemouth and now possibly to Liverpool.

Kenny McLean is playing most weeks for Norwich.

McArthur and McCarthy doing well for Palace.

John Fleck has been a stand out for Sheffield Utd for a few seasons.

Stuart Armstrong, Graeme Shinnie are squad players for their respective clubs.

Van Dijk moved a number of years ago and is touted as one of the worlds best defenders.

Barry Ferguson won a trophy down in England with Birmingham City. Alan Hutton didn't manage to nail down a place at Spurs but did very well at Aston Villa towards the end of his career.

Tierney has moved recently, and there's strong talk that Morelos and Kamara won't be too far behind - If all three of them can do well it will definitely see more players hit the radar of the wealthy clubs down in England.

I know I'm probably doing us and Celtic an injustice here, I know some people don't like to see us being a stepping stone - but it's sign of the times. Both clubs are very much buy small and sell big clubs right now and England is where the money is.

What players have made the move from Scotland to England and just outright flopped?

And are there any other players in Scotland who you can see attracting interest from England soon?

 

[Jjbscotty]

Jelavic did well for a couple of months then flopped.

 

[BucksBear]

Borna should be a safe punt for a mid range club.

 

[punksnotdead]

Peter Marinello

 

[Greggy75]

Boumsoung had a shocker

 

[helicopter-sunday]

Jelavic did well for a couple of months then flopped.

36 goals in 134 appearances ain't a bad return considering he played for Everton, Hull and West Ham.

 

[Numans_Left_Peg]

Stevie Crawford

 

[Main Stand]

Fraser fyvie , could maybe argue Matty Kennedy albeit he was very young and inexperienced , hooper flopped at Norwich , bednar from hearts , skacel , Barry Robson and Boyd at Boro , although Boyd had a good spell at forest , many have

 

[Sydneyger65]

The late Ralphie Milne and our own past it at the time Andy Goram with MAN UTD.

 

[PortoyMortoy]

Borna should be a safe punt for a mid range club.

People talk about the Euros potentially boosting Kamara's value but Borna could be a far better example of it. Starting for the world cup runners up in the next tournament and unfortunately for us not playing in a top league will have teams intrigued to say the least

 

[ZvP]

Leigh Griffiths was awful down south.

 

[EddieEHitler]

Lorenzo Amoruso

 

[helicopter-sunday]

Fraser fyvie , could maybe argue Matty Kennedy albeit he was very young and inexperienced , hooper flopped at Norwich , bednar from hearts , skacel , Barry Robson and Boyd at Boro , although Boyd had a good spell at forest , many have

Harsh on Hooper considering he averaged a goal every 3 and a bit games in England after leaving Celtic. 51 goals in 159 games.

Is that a flop?

 

[BroomloanWATP]

People talk about the Euros potentially boosting Kamara's value but Borna could be a far better example of it. Starting for the world cup runners up in the next tournament and unfortunately for us not playing in a top league will have teams intrigued to say the least

The proof will be in the pudding but if our scouting system is able to identify replacements for anyone we sell then it won't be as much of a blow as it could be. Morelos is the one player I think we will struggle to replace as he has the potential to be world class, but we will make a pretty penny so some of that will be able to secure a "finished article" replacement.

 

[YoungGer97]

Jelavic did well for a couple of months then flopped.

Jelavic was one of the best strikers in the premier league for the first 6 months at Everton. Crazy how much he regressed after that

 

[PT98]

Laudrup?

 

[PW Bear]

Kris Boyd was poor at Boro and Forest!

 

[BiopsyJones]

Jason Cummings

 

[WilliamOfOrange]

Stevie May was a flop down South but that could be down to his injuries.

 

[55degreesnorth]

36 goals in 134 appearances ain't a bad return considering he played for Everton, Hull and West Ham.

Not awful but absolutely bang average if we're being honest. He didn't flop per se but he wasn't a roaring success.

 

[55degreesnorth]

Stevie May was a flop down South but that could be down to his injuries.

Most likely just down to him being utter shite mate.

 

[YoungGer97]

Stevie May was a flop down South but that could be down to his injuries.

He has only ever been good when he first broke through at St Johnstone. Hes been absolutely shite for everyone else hes played for

 

[Bumplittledipper]

McCoist had a nightmare at Sunderland.

 

[GEODGC]

Boumsoung had a shocker

Boumsong was a head scratcher. He was as good as anybody I’ve seen in defence for us in that brief period he was here, went down South and completely bombed.

 

[huistra23]

McCoist had a nightmare at Sunderland.

Won't be popular on here,but Baxter wasn't a success in England.my personal opinion is,he was never the same after his leg break

 

[JimmysGers]

Kevin Thomson wasn’t great at ‘Boro, much like every other Old Firm select signing Strachan made.

Thomson had terrible luck with injuries tbf.

 

[Strathblane Bear]

Kenny Miller

 

[helicopter-sunday]

Boumsong was a head scratcher. He was as good as anybody I’ve seen in defence for us in that brief period he was here, went down South and completely bombed.

Agree with this one.

I remember reading somewhere that one of his family members (possibly his mrs) had an illness, plus he had other personal problems and that's what he blamed for his form towards the end of his Newcastle career.

 

[dh1963]

Was Charlie Nicholas seen as a success for Arsenal?
He scored the goals that won a League Cup Final, but overall he was so shite they punted him to Aberdeen.

Massive hype about him going there from Celtic.

A definite flop was Frank McGarvey, maybe his wife was more successful down Liverpool docks...

 

[55degreesnorth]

Kenny Miller

Did ok at wolves, had a mare at derby but then again so did the entire team. Worst side in epl history.

 

[Greggy75]

Boumsong was a head scratcher. He was as good as anybody I’ve seen in defence for us in that brief period he was here, went down South and completely bombed.

He strolled our league. I thought he had a good a chance as anybody of doing alright in that league

 

[SDF]

Eoin Jess

Signed for Coventry for £2.2m, 1 goal and 18 months later he was back at Aberdeen for £700,000

 

[a_weir]

This thread could apply to many promising English players who flopped in England after debuting at Championship level.

 

[HMS.Temple.Garden]

Champagne Charlie

 

[Sheik Ma Shammy]

That's why it's important for players not to jump for the biggest offer and get the right fit for them.

 

[EigerSanction]

Davie Robertson at Leeds United . Louis Moult at Preston , injured at the moment but struggling to get a game last season.

 

[mark hateley]

I think there are more who have flopped by going from England to Scotland than the other way.

 

[Cyberniv]

The great BBC pundit and SNP failed candidate Michael Stewart. Spent 8 seasons with Man Utd and managed 8 first team appearances. A bench warmer and happy to be so. No ambition whatever.

 

[GEODGC]

Was Charlie Nicholas seen as a success for Arsenal?
He scored the goals that won a League Cup Final, but overall he was so shite they punted him to Aberdeen.

Massive hype about him going there from Celtic.

A definite flop was Frank McGarvey, maybe his wife was more successful down Liverpool docks...

He was a success initially, he was their player of the year in the first season, and then won the cup, scoring both goals. After that, it all went downhill.

 

[Jjbscotty]

Did ok at wolves, had a mare at derby but then again so did the entire team. Worst side in epl history.

He scored an absolute screamer in their only league victory that season.

 

[Blue Lou Boyle]

Eoin Jess

Signed for Coventry for £2.2m, 1 goal and 18 months later he was back at Aberdeen for £700,000

Do you remember when he was first at aberdeen he was linked with us a few times?

Prob just paper talk.

 

[basiltherat]

Josh Windass seems to be disappearing without trace. Wee Barrie doesn't seem to feature much either these days

 

[55degreesnorth]

He scored an absolute screamer in their only league victory that season.

Against Newcastle? Indeed. However he still bombed pretty badly albeit he may have been getting dragged down by the mediocrity surrounding him.

 

[Bumplittledipper]

Won't be popular on here,but Baxter wasn't a success in England.my personal opinion is,he was never the same after his leg break

Baxter was before my time but my old man says he never set the heather on fire down south.

 

[simplyzebest]

Boumsong was a head scratcher. He was as good as anybody I’ve seen in defence for us in that brief period he was here, went down South and completely bombed.

Until we played Auxerre and he was shown up big time. Fair enough it was Benzema but he made him look ridiculous.

 

[Spencer Davis]

Wasn't Gazza below par when he left us?

 

[Souness86]

Scott Allan

 

[Skyy Bluenose]

Charlie Adam at Liverpool.

 

[Number_9]

Ally McCoist didn't set the heather on fire

 

[gi joe]

Leigh Griffiths was awful down south.

Pains me to say it but unfortunately that isn't really true, a few Wolves fans I know were disappointed he left.
He had 3 seasons at Wolves the first two were spent on,loan at Hibs and in the third by January he was their top scorer with 13 goals. The Tims then signed him that January window for a million quid. He scored 12 goals in 28 league games for Wolves but rumours in the midlands suggest he had to get out of town for his own safety.