We've got two people that literally don't understand the stats being put in front of them.
you just compared an ‘expected assist’ rate against an actual ‘assist’ rate?
We've got two people that literally don't understand the stats being put in front of them.
The lanky blonde gimp cb at the bheasts has scored more than Kent... his goal ratio is shocking.League assists are shocking but his goals tally is also not great.
The lanky blonde gimp cb at the bheasts has scored more than Kent... his goal ratio is shocking.
Very mature. You are mis-using the stats to prove a point and making a fool of yourself.We've got two people that literally don't understand the stats being put in front of them.
How ironic that one of them is called brain.
How many expected assists though?I think he has more assists also.
If we played Kent as an old fashioned right winger he would do just fine. Run to the byline and cut it back. Leave the intricate stuff and the shooting to those who are good at it. Unfortunately we don't play a right winger and we are shoehorning him into a position where he looks lost.
Very mature. You are mis-using the stats to prove a point and making a fool of yourself.
Cold hard facts. For a Rangers forward that's damning. We all wanted Kent and he is an exciting talent but its not happening.19 league games
6 goals
0 assists
contrast and compare with Forrest
26 games
10 goals
16 assists
or Christie
22 games
11 assists
11 goals (takes penalties though)
or even Mcgregor
28 games
7 goals
7 assists
Grim reading
you just compared an ‘expected assist’ rate against an actual ‘assist’ rate?
The fact that you are drawing false conclusions from the stats suggests that you should probably keep quiet.I'm doing nothing of the sort. The fact you cant interpret them properly, yet want to have an opinion on it, suggests you should probably keep quiet.
I found a sample of his expected assist stat last year when he had zero assists in 10 matches, but his xA was 0.4, so he should have had 4 assists.
The fact that you are drawing false conclusions from the stats suggests that you should probably keep quiet.
Which bit of that are you struggling to understand? If the actual assist and expected assist are the same, that shows the attackers of one team are proficient, and the attackers of another are not. Very simple.
A lot of people with a lot to say in this thread, but clearly can't understand simple logic.
Which bit of that are you struggling to understand? If the actual assist and expected assist are the same, that shows the attackers of one team are proficient, and the attackers of another are not. Very simple. If given the same strikers, both would have the same stats.
Quite the arrrogant, condescending type aren't you. Nobody said it was the "entire story".I can't be held responsible for your inability to comprehend some very simple statistics.
The only false conclusions are coming from the helmets that think 0 assists in 19 tells the entire story in isolation.
Also, is that how that stat works?
Quite the arrrogant, condescending type aren't you. Nobody said it was the "entire story".
what if forrests xA was ten times higher? What would that tell you.
I can't be held responsible for your inability to comprehend some very simple statistics.
The only false conclusions are coming from the helmets that think 0 assists in 19 tells the entire story in isolation.
Oh, ok. Wasn’t sure if the 0.4 was the cumulative figure for the ten games.Essentially, yeah. He created 1 chance every 198 minutes that should have been scored by the attacker. That's the jist of it.
Tav and Borna must have an expected assist number of like 5 a game!Weird how our finishing only becomes a problem when it comes to Kent having 0 assists
Doesn’t effect Borna or Tav
The boy's short of confidence.
Let's support him - he's delivered for us in big games.
This the reason he goes inside is to allow borna to go by himYou also have to factor in Borna's assists. Every time Kent gets the ball and drags 2 or 3 defenders towards him it leaves lots of time and space for Borna to measure his crosses.
Weird how our finishing only becomes a problem when it comes to Kent having 0 assists
Doesn’t effect Borna or Tav
You are trying to use one stat to say Forrest isn't a considerably better player. The more important stats, goals and actual assists, say very differently for both this season and last. We can all see with our eyes that Kent doesn't regularly create high quality chances that our forwards are constantly spurning. And when I watch Celtic's highlights I see Forrest very often getting to the byline and putting it on a plate for his teammates.I'm left with no option when people choose to ignore what's put in front of them, in favour of an opinion based on nothing but a negative agenda.
You are trying to use one stat to say Forrest isn't a considerably better player. The more important stats, goals and actual assists, say very differently for both this season and last. We can all see with our eyes that Kent doesn't regularly create high quality chances that our forwards are constantly spurning. And when I watch Celtic's highlights I see Forrest very often getting to the byline and putting it on a plate for his teammates.
See this is the problem
He has indeed delivered on the big occasions, 4 excellent displays vs Celtic and 2 excellent games in Europe and a cup semi vs Hearts
But apart from that, name me games where he has been excellent?
There haven't been more than a handful, we need a player who can turn it on 90% of the time, not 10% of the time which just now is what we get with Kent.
Yet both have more than 0 assists in a year.Tav's expected assists is 4 times higher than his actual assists.
Barisic's expected assists is 2.5 times higher than his actual assists.
Sorry it doesn't suit your agenda.
You are trying to use one stat to say Forrest isn't a considerably better player. The more important stats, goals and actual assists, say very differently for both this season and last. We can all see with our eyes that Kent doesn't regularly create high quality chances that our forwards are constantly spurning. And when I watch Celtic's highlights I see Forrest very often getting to the byline and putting it on a plate for his teammates.
Who are you thinking of that turns up for 90% of games? de Bruyne? Haland? Mbappe?
Kent is clearly a very quick and skilful young player who can turn on a sixpence like Michael Mols once did. On his day he is arguably the best player in the SPL. Lets give him a chance as he aint the only underachiever we have at the moment
I will compare with our nearest competitors
Forrest, Christie, Both turn up in the vast majority of games for that lot and have telling contributions
Looking back for us, Naismith, Miller used to turn up in the vast majority
If we want to win the league, we need to have the consistency that in the vast vast majority of games, in the 90% ballpark, the players turn up and have telling contributions.
Kent very rarely does.
It is the difference between winning trophies and just winning the big games.
Makes me want to smash my head in a wall when people don’t realise this and keep using stats...You also have to factor in Borna's assists. Every time Kent gets the ball and drags 2 or 3 defenders towards him it leaves lots of time and space for Borna to measure his crosses.
Kent's been with us for 18 months - the players you mention have all had time to settle in - and are/were playing for Title winning teams. Completely different circumstances.
Kent's struggling for form but patience and support will help.
Your suggesting these players turn up then?Who are you thinking of that turns up for 90% of games? de Bruyne? Haland? Mbappe?
He set 4 up yesterday not his fault his team mates couldn’t finish them.Just seen that Kent has 0 assists in the full calendar year. Form has took a serious nose dive since he signed, 7 million pounds isn’t a lot for most clubs these days but it’s a serious outlay for us. Hope he gets back to what he does best soon but I don’t see it happening while continuing to play this narrow number 10 role
Seems to come deeper and deeper, then passes sideways or backwards. Main reason for this is he's short of confidence and when played in this weird "10" that we play him in he's starved of space. He's generally not a great passer of the ball so will do nothing 40 yards outPicks the ball up 40 yards out far too often. He’s been very poor recently
The only person with an ‘agenda’ in this thread is youTav's expected assists is 4 times higher than his actual assists.
Barisic's expected assists is 2.5 times higher than his actual assists.
Sorry it doesn't suit your agenda.
Football isnt won on should, or would, its won with cold hard decisive statistics like Goals Scored, Assists et al.I can't be held responsible for your inability to comprehend some very simple statistics.
The only false conclusions are coming from the helmets that think 0 assists in 19 tells the entire story in isolation.