ssblue
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This.
Been on here nearly 20 years and these are the only 2 who get most things right.
Some others have called the odd thing but most "ITK's" talk crap.
Andre Gray
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Been on here nearly 20 years and these are the only 2 who get most things right.
Some others have called the odd thing but most "ITK's" talk crap.
The Gon
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What's that got to do with my point? Also I've never heard anyone talk about killing/burning gays at Ibrox, and I never said the guy shouldn't get a 2nd chance either.
I expect those tweets to be dragged up all over the place if we sign him. And rightfully or wrongly it wont bode well with the everyone anyone campaign the club has been trying so hard to push. In fact I'd go as far to say it's a massive own goal for the campaign, which will probably suffer from it with supporters & the media using that signing to discredit us and make a mockery of it. The signing wouldn't make a lot of sense to me from that side of things.
Regardless if he signs for us I'll give him a fair chance like I would with any other player we sign.
I'm passing on info I've been given. I'm not an ITK and like anyone else I'll be sceptical unless it's in Orange Font on here
SuperGers07
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Tims signing a guy from West Ham reserve squad on loan
Nathan9719972
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Going to be honest, decent player they are getting
NDC bear forever
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Yeah I know mate it wasn’t a dig at you. Was more a general point that we have two admins on here that get more info than anyone else
NDC bear forever
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Option to buy for £5m. Career stagnated at West Ham but was supposedly good for Basel, seems like it’ll be a good signing for the ba$tard$
Totally forgot about Oliver Burke , what has happened to him.
WinkieWATP
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Playing in La Liga, can’t recall off the top of my head who with.
Alaves, first Scot to play there since Archibald. Harper is on the books of getafe (I think) but was loaned back to segunda when he signed.
He has been on loan in Spain for the last year with Alaves, but his time is up now, so he is back at West Brom.
subversive_bear
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Not keen on this guy. On a downward arc career-wise and tends to attract negative attention.
Alan Hutton has played in La Liga since Archibald.
No offence to you OP but continually on here we see post after post saying our targets are "shite" "past it" "underwhelmed" and when their signings are mentioned they get praised. Crazy place at times
WinkieWATP
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If we were signing a guy that couldn’t get a game for West Ham when they have no other CF available he would definitely be classed as shite
Couldn’t get on West Ham’s bench when they had no other fit strikers
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MearnsUnionist
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Know absolutely nothing about him, but asked a lad I know who follows the Hammers home and away and his reply was.....
"He's absolutely shit. Forgot he was still here."
WinkieWATP
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So did Moyes it would appear. They played Antonio at CF. Granted he scored goals bu t that must be every position apart from GK he has played for West Ham now.
Tagsbear
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This is a massive thread based on not much is it not?
When at Burnley I really thought Gray was the real deal, then seeing him in the flesh vs us I genuinely thought he’d end at a top 6 club in England, he was absolutely dynamite.
Dunno what’s happened to him at Watford, they have been a bit of a basket case to be fair, but I’ve no idea if he could find his previous form, if he could he’d be some signing, but it’s a big IF.
When at Burnley I really thought Gray was the real deal, then seeing him in the flesh vs us I genuinely thought he’d end at a top 6 club in England, he was absolutely dynamite.
Dunno what’s happened to him at Watford, they have been a bit of a basket case to be fair, but I’ve no idea if he could find his previous form, if he could he’d be some signing, but it’s a big IF.
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I know it was only a friendly, but Gray's performance against us that day is definitely the best I've seen by an opposition forward since our demotion.
Haven't really followed his career, but something's clearly gone wrong.
Sometimes a new club can reinvigorate a player.
Probably just Tom Miller
shinyscot
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He made a mistake, apologised and was punished by the fa for it. Whether with us or another club, is it right to continually punish someone for his actions of 8 years ago? I'd wager there are a few on here (myself included) who used to sing tbb at Ibrox before it was banned. Should we be punished too for going against the initiative?
You are right, I though that was the segunda. My mistake
The double standards of the Malky McKay apologist Graham Spiers would certainly be worth keeping an eye on.
NDC bear forever
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Hopefully he’s right mate and he is shite. Just going off his report from Basel.
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tazzabear
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How long ago was it he gave our defenders the runaround?
He did to us what Morelos did to our opponents.
JeffreySpauIding
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Who couldn't give Rob Kiernan the runaround?
tazzabear
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Was it that far back?
Seriously thought it was more recent.
Barisic's Bandage
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Portadown_Bear
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Its a theory like that which allowed Franny Jeffers to make a career for himself out of one good season.
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Burgh-Ger
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Do you have any examples of cases where it has been positive or just the one negative in Jeffers
MurtyMania
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Ajeti is completely incapable of dealing with the physical aspects of football. Gets dominated far too easily by defenders, and this is why he failed at West Ham.
jimcornette
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Every transfer for every club in the world is a risk. But that risk is mitigated for the wealthier clubs as they can spend money on “sure things”. Even then it doesn’t always work out but more often than not they get exactly what they paid for and expected.
Gone are the days that we could sign a “sure thing”. I can’t imagine ever seeing us with a Laudrup or Gascoigne ever again, so in the meantime we are forced to shop in the Andre Gray market. It isn’t ideal but let’s trust our staff hoping that we get more Alfredos than Penas.
Gone are the days that we could sign a “sure thing”. I can’t imagine ever seeing us with a Laudrup or Gascoigne ever again, so in the meantime we are forced to shop in the Andre Gray market. It isn’t ideal but let’s trust our staff hoping that we get more Alfredos than Penas.
Forth Bear
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Fans and a lot clubs in the UK seem to write-off players after they've had a bad spell or haven't played much for a season or so.
Clubs in the likes of Italy seem to be specialists at reviving careers. We should be looking at that model of signing players who otherwise we couldn't afford and trying to revive them. It shouldn't be our main policy, but it's worth a gamble on some players.
tazzabear
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Thanks.
For some reason, I thought it was Gerrard’s first pre season.
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Bury was Gerrard's first game Tazza.
Sauchiebear
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Why does a decent rumour thread always get derailed but what the mhanks are doing.
Personally I couldnt give two fucks who they sign.
Personally I couldnt give two fucks who they sign.
CaptainCourageous
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McBurnie isn't prolific yet he would be a cracking signing irrespective of what some think of him. He's a good player. He's outwith our budget though.
Firminho never hit a home goal last season (did that stat stand?), he scored 9 league goals.
Lys Moysset would get a game up top for us, he scored 6 league goals.
Leicester had a great campaign, Inheanacho bagged 5 league goals.
Origi got 4 for Liverpool.
You've sometimes got to look past the stats. I think Gray started 7 league games in 2019/20. He scored 2 league goals.
Playing on the opposition's shoulder, good movement, strong. Attributes he possesses. He's shown in the past that he can score. Is the hunger and desire still there?
Firminho never hit a home goal last season (did that stat stand?), he scored 9 league goals.
Lys Moysset would get a game up top for us, he scored 6 league goals.
Leicester had a great campaign, Inheanacho bagged 5 league goals.
Origi got 4 for Liverpool.
You've sometimes got to look past the stats. I think Gray started 7 league games in 2019/20. He scored 2 league goals.
Playing on the opposition's shoulder, good movement, strong. Attributes he possesses. He's shown in the past that he can score. Is the hunger and desire still there?
Bruce_Wayne
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He does it with every player then sign.
Ravel Morrison
Theresa May
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I don't think there's much that would invigorate Ravel Morrison tbh.
With him it was a more a case that he never lived up to his hype/potential.
He was never a good/significant player at first team level.
Xavi Hernandez
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I'd turn gay for a month if it guaranteed Big Andre winning us next years Title.
TynesideTrueBlue
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It looks like depending on the Alfredo transfer saga will depend on what quality we get, I actually thought we would have had another striker in by now for the French Tournament games and new season starting.
