Partickger
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A remarkable stat which highlights how much of a bargain he will be, even at £20m.
I’m one of the two faced qunts who wanted him sold after being sent off v Brown, then loved him after this, then wanted him sold after his dive at Parkhead and subsequent form slump.I long ago accepted that we are going to have to take the rough with the smooth when it comes to Morelos. He's young, he's ambitious and his personality is firey. This is a kid who has come from nothing and gives so much back to the community which brought him up.
At points I've been raging with him when he does something daft, I think we all have, but I genuinely think he'll stay this year and rip it up. Especially now that the pressure will be off him at points because we can play Roofe or Itten.
Aye it's not always the healthiest of relationships. I get annoyed then think of his happy wee cheeky face and it's back to square oneI’m one of the two faced qunts who wanted him sold after being sent off v Brown, then loved him after this, then wanted him sold after his dive at Parkhead and subsequent form slump.
Today, I love him again.
Was going to say the same, the 'norm' back in the day was we get drawn against some unheard of mob, scrape through then get papped out second round, so average between 2 and 4 euro games at the start of each season. Now if we get lucky in the draw we get 6 qualifiers then into another 6 group games before knockout rounds. How many games have each played for us in europe?
Did McCoist play the first time we played Valetta when we beat them 18-0 on agg ?
I think of their record in the same number of games Alfies is better. I may be wrong but it definitely was at a point last season.Quite astonishing really for the time Morelos has been here, not sure what it says about Super right enough, were Euro defences better in his day or is Morelos a better striker?
My post was was slightly in jest, as mentioned above the set up in European football has changed over the yearsI think of their record in the same number of games Alfies is better. I may be wrong but it definitely was at a point last season.
And no i'm not saying AM is better than AM.
I wasn't just referring to Euro games, totally misread your post apologies. Sleep deprived loyalMy post was was slightly in jest, as mentioned above the set up in European football has changed over the years
Never a better time.Wouldn’t put it past him to equal and pass it in Holland next week.
You've missed the point completely. Well done you and the handful of people who liked it.Aye because McCoist never had his troubles during his Rangers career when he wasn't getting selected.
Imagine you're a youngster who has grown up supporting Rangers over the last 10 years. You've gone from watching absolute shite like Kevin Kyle and Fran Sandaza struggle against Annan Athletic to watching Morelos, Kent and their team-mates give clubs like Porto a lesson in how to play football at Ibrox. No wonder they think the wee Colombian is a hero. Your post is just miserable for the sake of it. Alfie isn't as good a player as Ally was, very few are. Did the last decade not happen to you?
No, I understand your point, I just think it's a shit one.You've missed the point completely. Well done you and the handful of people who liked it.
Sooner we celebrate a trophy winning Team the better. At least when McCoist was missing League cup final penalties v Them he was tucking away the rebound.
The last decade sadly happened, the hero worship for players winning nothing cotinues.
Yeah, Alania Vladikavkaz, Gotu, Gornik, Valletta, Bohemians, Ilves etc are really vastly superior opposition.McCoist played against vastly superior opposition, mainly because his goals in the league fired us to titles which caused us to come up against the aforesaid superior opponents.
Which is something that Morelos hasn’t done. Maybe he will if he manages to focus for an entire season, cut out the niggly fouls and stop getting suspended. He may break McCoist’s record, he still isn’t anywhere near his level (as confirmed by the manager).
I wasn't aware people picked their heroes based on what they won.You've missed the point completely. Well done you and the handful of people who liked it.
Sooner we celebrate a trophy winning Team the better. At least when McCoist was missing League cup final penalties v Them he was tucking away the rebound.
The last decade sadly happened, the hero worship for players winning nothing cotinues.
No other side hasn't won any trophies in that period?I wasn't aware people picked their heroes based on what they won.
Somebody better tell the kids who have supported any other team in Scotland outside us and them since 1986 that they're not allowed to have heroes.
No other side hasn't won any trophies in that period?
Keep it relevant rather than going full tard.
Bohemians plus some of the other ones mentioned. Like I said this isn't me having a pop at Ally just that he played against dome poor opposition as well for dome of his goals.Poor example I’m afraid! They were Russian champions at the time and they had played Borussia Dortmund & Liverpool in their previous 2 seasons in Europe ( drawing 0-0 away and losing by a single goal at home both times) so they were a very decent team. Our result in Russia was an exceptional performance.
The point is that the majority of McCoist’s European matches would have been against opposition superior to anything Morelos has faced. Morelos’ was very good in the group stages last year and deserves praise, but scoring more goals against inferior quality opposition doesn’t put him in the same bracket as McCoist.
We would be in a better position with a better attitude and discipline from Morelos.Interesting stat and impressive from Alfie.
It’s so satisfying seeing post like these stirring debate when you think of where we were not so long ago.
I wouldn't say any of the teams either scored against were outstanding. Both scored against shite, both scored against very good.Is some stat although we have played some dross in Europe while he’s been here.
Ally scored against some outstanding teams.
Alfie will break his record if he doesn’t leave in this window.
There we are, the lunatics have finally taken over this asylum. I was going to post a reply to the hard of thinking explaining my earlier posts (perhaps using hand puppets to illustrate my points in a way they would understand) but what’s the point if we have people who think our record goalscorer and multiple title winner isn’t as good a player as a player who has won NOTHING with us (and whose own failings have had a big part to play in that).I don’t know if I would agree that Ally was a better player than Morelos.
A better goalscorer and finisher, yes definitely, but his play outside the box, giving full back fours a torrid time of it, holding up play, running channels, being a one man battering ram, I’m saying Morelos is a better player than Ally was.
Nae bother.There we are, the lunatics have finally taken over this asylum. I was going to post a reply to the hard of thinking explaining my earlier posts (perhaps using hand puppets to illustrate my points in a way they would understand) but what’s the point if we have people who think our record goalscorer and multiple title winner isn’t as good a player as a player who has won NOTHING with us (and whose own failings have had a big part to play in that).
I’m out.
I wouldn't say any of the teams either scored against were outstanding. Both scored against shite, both scored against very good.
Alfie has scored his 20 against:
Osijek
Maribor
Rapid Vienna (2)
St Joseph's (4)
Midtjylland (3)
Legia Warsaw
Young Boys (2)
Porto (2)
Feyenoord (2)
Lincoln Red Imps (2)
Coisty's 21 goals came against:
Bohemians
Ilves
Boavista
Dynamo Kyiv
Gornik zabrze (2)
Steaua Bucharest
Valletta (2)
Red Star
Leeds (2)
Alania Vladikavkaz (4)
Grasshoppers (2)
Gotu (3)
As before, that's not belittling McCoist in any way at all
Not exactly the cream of European football as some would have us believe.
As I said before iirc wee Durrant had a better CL record than Super Ally(for a while).
@Delboy Trotter
No, Dave McPherson was the top scorer over two legs.Did McCoist play the first time we played Valetta when we beat them 18-0 on agg ?
I wouldn't say any of the teams either scored against were outstanding. Both scored against shite, both scored against very good.
Alfie has scored his 20 against:
Osijek
Maribor
Rapid Vienna (2)
St Joseph's (4)
Midtjylland (3)
Legia Warsaw
Young Boys (2)
Porto (2)
Feyenoord (2)
Lincoln Red Imps (2)
Coisty's 21 goals came against:
Bohemians
Ilves
Boavista
Dynamo Kyiv
Gornik zabrze (2)
Steaua Bucharest
Valletta (2)
Red Star
Leeds (2)
Alania Vladikavkaz (4)
Grasshoppers (2)
Gotu (3)
As before, that's not belittling McCoist in any way at all
@Delboy Trotter
Allys response to the question about Alfie overtaking his record was good. "Not bothered I didn't really play in that competition"
For me it's just a bit of banter,different era,different teams and players and I am pleased they both have worn the Blue jersey.I know he's joking but he wasnt really scoring in the one he did play in either.
The records against overall teams is very similar. That Alfie's done it in a team which can't win trophies (given that's a criticism of him) in far less games is where the comparison is really interesting for me.
I don’t know if I would agree that Ally was a better player than Morelos.
A better goalscorer and finisher, yes definitely, but his play outside the box, giving full back fours a torrid time of it, holding up play, running channels, being a one man battering ram, I’m saying Morelos is a better player than Ally was.
McCoist was a far better player than your giving him credit for, in his early days he played a lot of games in MF in cluding a LC Final against the Filth when our MF was Ally, McPherson and Coop up against Murdo McCleod, Paul McStay and Tommy Burns.I don’t know if I would agree that Ally was a better player than Morelos.
A better goalscorer and finisher, yes definitely, but his play outside the box, giving full back fours a torrid time of it, holding up play, running channels, being a one man battering ram, I’m saying Morelos is a better player than Ally was.
I know he started his career as a goalscoring midfielder, and I’m in no way saying he wasn’t a good player outside the box. I just think Morelos has more about him.McCoist was a far better player than your giving him credit for, in his early days he played a lot of games in MF in cluding a LC Final against the Filth when our MF was Ally, McPherson and Coop up against Murdo McCleod, Paul McStay and Tommy Burns.