sheddensbear
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No. Who gets left out elsewhere ?
How can you say that for certain? The guy has been our mainstay RB, captain and arguably our predominant creative outlet for years and you think a breakthrough youngster, who’s not exactly had many senior games, will probably be in place to overtake him after 1.5 seasons?
I’ve been having identical thoughts.Tav would have to move forward,to make room for our very own “Rampaging” wing back PattersonWatching Tierney and Robertson for Scotland I am sure a lot of us are wondering if we could do the same.
Two superb players that if it worked would be superb for Rangers bringing pace, invention, skill and goals.
Then there is the counter argument do we have to tinker with a new formation, is it worth it? And as I sometimes think with the Scotland pair does it dilute what each of them brings in their regular position?
The other question is how many games will Paterson play, because like Billy Gilmour they are ready.
I am sure Steven Gerrard and the coaching staff are thinking of this very thing.
What say you?
Alright your OP sounded more definitiveI’m not saying anything for certain. It’s an opinion.
Yes Gary McAllister I'm sure.I may be wildly off here, but did one of the staff not say they were looking at it? I’m sure something was said in a press conference at the time Tav was getting close to being fit.
I suggested this last season and got laughed at. Still think there’s merit in the idea. Tav would offer plenty of attacking and defensive qualities in the RM role that Aribo is often given.Watching Tierney and Robertson for Scotland I am sure a lot of us are wondering if we could do the same.
Two superb players that if it worked would be superb for Rangers bringing pace, invention, skill and goals.
Then there is the counter argument do we have to tinker with a new formation, is it worth it? And as I sometimes think with the Scotland pair does it dilute what each of them brings in their regular position?
The other question is how many games will Paterson play, because like Billy Gilmour they are ready.
I am sure Steven Gerrard and the coaching staff are thinking of this very thing.
What say you?
Yes. Gary Mac said we were looking to try fit both inI may be wildly off here, but did one of the staff not say they were looking at it? I’m sure something was said in a press conference at the time Tav was getting close to being fit.
I know that Tav and young Patterson are different types of players but following on from the Jardine/Greig reminder, other old timers may recall that Rangers had a very good player called Sammy Cox, who was a regular full back in the Scotland team but played left midfield for our club.Did sandy jardine not play right midfield for a time, john greig played in different positions.
I agree with you, we must find a way of playing them both.
I might be an old timer my friend, but sammy cox has really added a few years to my aging bones, I've not even got my bus pass yetI know that Tav and young Patterson are different types of players but following on from the Jardine/Greig reminder, other old timers may recall that Rangers had a very good player called Sammy Cox, who was a regular full back in the Scotland team but played left midfield for our club.
Don't copy them,show the fuckers how it can be done.Yeah, lets copy Scotland lol
I've spent about a fortnight reading on here, how Paterson should be playing at the euro's up against the best players europe has to offer.When the 2 have almost identical skill sets, then thats not possible.
Tav isnt good enough at ball retention to play in our midfield. For me the only way you could play both, is if you stuck one of them at LB after selling Borna. Even then it wouldnt really work, because you would need a left foot to provide the width on the left. Best solution is to give Tav more frequent rest this season and try and get young Patterson somewhere in the region of 15 games, or more if he actually wins the RB position from Tav on merit.
I've spent about a fortnight reading on here, how Paterson should be playing at the euro's up against the best players europe has to offer.
Good players don't need to be stuck in a rigid position. It may or may not work, but to suggest the team can't find a way to play both of them is way off.
It's nothing new with players being moved to different positions. In fact to have a flexible player in any team is a good thing.
Yeah it was mcAllister that said that. Wouldn't be able to find the interview sorryI may be wildly off here, but did one of the staff not say they were looking at it? I’m sure something was said in a press conference at the time Tav was getting close to being fit.
Fair enough. I'm not really talking about tav, he's set in his ways. Paterson, well you just never know. There maybe a game comes up when he might be needed to replace an injured player. Who knows, but he's still young and if he can be a versatile player, then it's a win win for us.Thats not true though is it? Its not way off at all. Infact its far more likely not to work. Being realistic, you couldnt play Tav as a 10. You could possibly put him into midfield, but like i said previously, he would struggle with the ball retention required.
When you say "good players" im assuming you mean technically good. Tavs not technically good enough. Watched him for 5 years, and no chance could you give him a ball in tight space like Kamara, Aribo or Davis. I also dont agree with shoe-horning players in, just because of their name. Tav would easily be behind Hagi, Roofe, Kent and Wright for a 10 position and definitely behind Jack, Davis, Aribo and Kamara in midfield.
I wouldnt even bother moving Patterson. Its hard enough mastering one position, without being shunted about in your formative years.
All about opinions though, i suppose mate.
Not this shit again
Aye alright Pep, pretty sure Gary Mac didn't mention anything about Tav as a number 8, just said they were looking at ways to play them both.Tav could play as an 8. He's got all of the attributes to play there imo. It wouldn't hurt us to experiment with it. Obviously I'd prefer everyone to play in their natural positions but it's a solution to a couple of issues we have in terms of midfield depth and getting Patterson decent developmental minutes.
I was roundly mocked on here for suggesting this a few months back. Only for Gary Mac to suggest as much a month or so later.
Might solve Tav's defensive weaknesses.Watching Tierney and Robertson for Scotland I am sure a lot of us are wondering if we could do the same.
Two superb players that if it worked would be superb for Rangers bringing pace, invention, skill and goals.
Then there is the counter argument do we have to tinker with a new formation, is it worth it? And as I sometimes think with the Scotland pair does it dilute what each of them brings in their regular position?
The other question is how many games will Paterson play, because like Billy Gilmour they are ready.
I am sure Steven Gerrard and the coaching staff are thinking of this very thing.
What say you?
If we qualify for CL you almost need two teams. Nathan will get good game time IMO.In a nutshell.
Tav is the best right back to play in Scotland since Gary Stevens and Nathan is still developing and learning off him.
I think he could become even better than Tav, but he's still a season (at the earliest imo) away from that.
He'll keep improving and play more and more, particularly in domestic cups and league games after midweek European matches.
I'm sure McAllister acknowledged the dilemma some months ago. Whatever the plan is or isn't the club and management are on top of the puzzle. Tav is captain and exceptional and Patterson can be anything he wants to be! Cannot wait to see Rangers back playingPeople are being dismissive but it is a dilemma. The problem is that Tavernier has been sensational at right back though and it just doesn’t make sense to change that.
He is now a full international and will be looking for a regular game. As next season progresses we will have to come up with a solutionIf you think Clark shoehorning robertson and tierney is a good idea then why not?
In reality though when its plain to see it's a no.
Patterson is 19, he will bide his time and replace tav when time is right, whether that's when tav leaves or when Patterson is too good for tav. Just need to wait n see. No rush.