Goldson Contract ?
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Middlesbrough_Gers
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I think goldson and kamara will be away, Rangers just don't have the financial clout.
CoopBlue
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Every way. Bigger stadiums, bigger crowds, higher profile, better standard of player.
Outwith us and the bheasts the rest of our league is League One in England - at very best.
And there comes a point when playing teams 4 or 5 times a season becomes pretty monotonous.
albop
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Id sell him and sign doeki but saying that we aint getting much in January maybe we could come to a agreement with him sign a new deal and if a offer comes in he can leave next season
Middlesbrough_Gers
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Really? It's a million times more competitive than the SPL and most teams can pay decent wages. The championship is a great league. I believe I read it was the 4th or 5th most competitive league in Europe.
Dr. Strangelove
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It's as if we're the only team in the world to potentially lose a player in this way and we should be throwing the kitchen sink at our players to prevent it. Sometimes players want more money than a club can pay and sometimes another club wants them and has told them (legally or not) that they're willing to pay an amount that we simply can't match. We know we've been running at a loss for a few years and we've had investors keeping us afloat. We know Covid fucked up the entire world's financial situation to some degree or another and it seems perfectly reasonable to me that we can't meet the amounts Kamara or Goldson might have been told by their agents they could potentially get elsewhere - but it's still a perfectly good offer for a football club at our level. Messi just left Barcelona on a free transfer. It's hardly unparalleled.
Donsky
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Goldson is defo leaving on a free. Kamara should probably be moved on in January if he doesn’t want to sign a new deal.
I’ve said it before, we are not in a position to let people run down their contracts, and the fact we have a few players coming into the last year or 18 months is really poor.
I’ve said it before, we are not in a position to let people run down their contracts, and the fact we have a few players coming into the last year or 18 months is really poor.
Puts us on the back foot though surely. If you’re Goldson’s agent you’d say well if you can afford to pay Lundstrum x and Goldson’s not missed a game during a record breaking title winning season and good Europa run, it’s very much in his favour.
Davie Weir
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Problem is that doesn’t benefit the player or his agent as bosman deals with no transfer fee leads to more money for both of them
Davie Weir
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That was the right attitude last season when it made financial sense, assuming a player in poor form will win you a title and that there's no better out there, turning down any offers is just very, very bad business.
Middlesbrough_Gers
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Totally agree with this, I mean look at Barry mckay and Jason Cummings they couldn't make it in the championship and had to drop into league one. Along with kris boyd and Kevin Thomson (although Kevin was unlucky with injuries). The standard is a lot higher than people give it credit for.
londonbluenose
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albop
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We paid 3.4million thought for goldson if i remember lundsturm was free id also imagine goldson is on a gd wage too
Hes not good enough to hold the club to ransom
Middlesbrough_Gers
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You can't surely believe that really?
SDF
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Allowing Goldson to run down his deal because of his importance has now set the precedence for others.
What's to stop Kamara, Alfie or Kent saying to the club they're just as important at Goldson and if it's all the same to the club, they'll run down their contract, continue to play and leave on a free as well thanks very much.
I don't blame Goldson. But talking about the need for a player trading model and allowing a multi million pound asset to walk out the door for nothing simply isn't good enough on our part. Especially if you're relying on money in the door to refresh the squad.
What's to stop Kamara, Alfie or Kent saying to the club they're just as important at Goldson and if it's all the same to the club, they'll run down their contract, continue to play and leave on a free as well thanks very much.
I don't blame Goldson. But talking about the need for a player trading model and allowing a multi million pound asset to walk out the door for nothing simply isn't good enough on our part. Especially if you're relying on money in the door to refresh the squad.
londonbluenose
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I agree on both.
I feel like next summer regardless if we win the league or not will be alot of in and outs
londonbluenose
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100% don't rate Diop at all
Alot of west ham fans don't, he hardly played last season for a reason. Don't think because he plays in the PL and went for a decent fee hes suddenly better. So much over paid and over hyped players down here
Davie Weir
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Donsky
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Longer you leave the more chance the player will just hold tight and leave on a free like Goldson is doing. Before you know it we will be in May 2022 and he will only have a year left.
That's obviously PR from both sides. I would be surprised if either signed a new contract. They will be able to earn far more down south than we can pay them. Our business model is such that we need to sell them. I think Kamara will be sold at the end of the season unless we get a really high offer in January and he will go then . Goldson will go on a free at the end of the season.
Davie Weir
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I do agree mate but would probably be better to sell in the summer than mid season imo, agree though we’re going to have to get players tied up on longer deals and start cashing in on some.
albop
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We aren't in a financial state to allow players to go for free
This is like a partner cheating and you telling them you’re ok with them carrying on sleeping with other people, so long as they stay until the kids leave home.
It’s really sad and desperate to allow him to stay and leave for nothing.
Or for an extra £30k per week.
Rangers1982
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9 I'm guessing at his age a free transfer at his age will make him
A1bertz
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Well we cannae put a gun to his head.
If he wins us the league, he can move on and we find the next CB.
londonbluenose
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That's the issue. Spent 3.5m on him would hope for 10m atleast
Also anyone on this thread bashing our league and Goldson
Shane Duffy has played every minute for Brighton who are flying right now. Ffs don't listen to the hype.. Goldson would be a good signing for alot of PL teams especially bottom 10
Jimbo 1690
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I think management should be planning for this every two or three years now, because there’s not really such a thing as loyalty in football anymore, money’s opened everyone’s eyes.
Rangers1982
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Say to him mate u won't be happy see how u get on
Why has nobody asked is a good question.
It’s literally us asking the questions these days, so are the people fronting the questions afraid to ask a difficult one?
londonbluenose
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All about the money nowadays I'm afraid
Jimbo 1690
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I’ve always thought he’s been shown up against the better teams like benfica, etc in Europe,specially against anyone with decent pace. Probably not champs league quality but then neither are we as a team yet
Donsky
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I think we have probably shown too much loyalty to players, thinking the modern day player has the same loyalty towards the club, as those of 10-15 years ago had. The fact of the matter is that 9 out of 10 players are nothing more than mercenaries.
Davie Weir
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The teams we’ve played in Europe would give the majority of EPL sides a game though.
Goldson would be absolutely fine in England
(especially in a lower half team) and there are inferior players getting a game each week down there.
The hype of the EPL gets a bit too much at times tbh
Jimbo 1690
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I honestly think it is…….not massively, but just enough to account for why they’re still not at it. The reason I think this is because I believe team squad and unity played a massive part in our success in Europe and winning the league, so I expect any disruption to that would have a reaction. A bit like an Elastoplast I wonder if it would’ve been more painless just to sell once it was known he wasn’t committed (if that’s the case) rather than draw it out over a season, perhaps causing other players to begin to question their own commitment too. Just a theory.
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Jimbo 1690
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That’s exactly what I was getting at, it’s changed days now and I wonder if rangers as an institution have been slow to realise this
albop
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If thats the case why we conceded as many goals in europe
People have short memories last year he was superb before that he was error prone
Donsky
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I think we have, but I also think someone like Ross Wilson should be aware of how the modern market works.
For me, if a player is in the last 2 years of their contract and don’t renew by the time they are into the last 18 months, then that player should be move on regardless of who they are.
It way well do mate but we'll never know what happens behind closed doors. However, what I see on the pitch from Goldson is the same compared to last albeit at a slightly lower level.
I do agree with the squad unity part, it was a massive factor in our success last season. It's hard to put a finger on where exactly it's going wrong at the moment but it needs to improve and quick.
Jimbo 1690
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Yeah something just isn’t right, even gerrard this season never seems to be happy. Would love to be an insider to find out what’s going on!
if he helps us win the League this year without signing contract fair enough, otherwise!
I am a bit lost on how we would have been down money, we don't need to spend 6-8m to get a player like Goldson, especially given an entire years notice on the situation.
He's now out of form, is likely leaving for nothing and we have far less to go and bring in someone committed who can replace him or even hopefully bring us up a level.
The attitude of assuming it will gift us the title or there's no better out there simply means we won't be able to sell our assets and find new ones for less than we sell, that's supposed to be our business model.
It's an awful business approach.
