Ban on betting firm shirt sponsors coming

Saki said:
Not a disaster - gambling ruins the lives of many and it seems to be advertised very heavily despite all the "bet responsibly" stuff
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Is UK alcohol advertising (or permitted consumption) policy now led by the knowledge that a small number of drinkers or those having to abstain, are alcoholics ?

The act of placing a bet is a recreational opportunity to use skill to win money (unless its the super wonderful Olympic Gold medals yielding lottery) - Alcohol and Smoking actually physically damage the body.

It is a ridiculous situation, see you in 20 years when they are trying to ban etoro or whatever from advertising because people keep buying shares they cant afford.
 
nelster said:
Remember when they did it with smoking adverts and finished snooker.

Smoking that is actually a killer and now prohibited indoors in public.

For millions of people choosing to have a bet with their own money, a legal past time is not the same as smoking.

Anyone agreeing with this is agreeing with the start of being told what you can and cant spend your money on. Both in terms of what on and how much. That’s where this is going with betting in the UK.

I notice they are still quite content telling people the money we all lost on the lottery pays for Olympic medals and is a beautiful thing. Can it not pay for our own football team ?
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As a recovering compulsive gambler, I can tell you gambling is a killer too. I know boys who’ve successfully taken their own life as a result and others who’ve tried and thankfully failed to take their own life.

And for the record, I don’t care one way or the other for this ban. If a top carries a gambling sponsor, I won’t buy it, if it doesn’t, I might. Doesn’t make any greater difference to me than that.
 
DeeCeeTee said:
The issue I, and a lot of politicians, have is the behaviour of the betting firms towards lucrative/problem (delete as applicable) gamblers.

Betting firms have "VIP" teams that reach out to people with gambling problems, and do all they can to keep that revenue rolling in, regardless of affordability.

Haven't made as many bets this month? "Here's a £200 bonus in your account".

Lost £10k with us this year? "Here's tickets to the FA Cup Final, now remember, we're the only people that that look after you. Have a free £100 bet while you're there".

Look at their predatory methods with the FOBTs. Quite happy for people (usually on low incomes with cash in their pocket) to lose hundreds of pounds a minute, and lobbied like crazy for them to be able to continue doing it. Threatened shops closing etc etc.

This nonsense of "when the fun stops, stop". It's not as easy as that when you've just lost your week's wage and you need to go back to your family and explain. Or do you gamble more and try and get out your slump. Also "loss limits" being advertised as if it's a good thing. "limit how much money we can take from you".

The sooner we get away from providing a platform for these companies, the better. If people want to gamble, they can gamble. It isn't stopping it happening, just stopping the advertising of it which may bring in new, potential problem gamblers with the promise of big riches on this new Cleopatra slot game crap, or drag back people with problems that may be doing everything in their willpower to stay away from.
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This post says everything that needs saying on the subject. We should not be financing these dealers in misery.

As for the poster above saying it’s up to parents to bring up their kids properly in order for them to be able to avoid the destruction that addictive gambling brings to families!

Have a word with yourself mate. Next thing you’ll be blaming parents for kids developing cancer as they weren’t brought up properly.
 
its not too long ago that the government was proposing super casinos.
Either get serious and ban all gambling- lottery included- which will result in a big tax hit. or stfu and dont be so hypocritical.
 
SGL said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

REVEALED: No more betting firms to sponsor front of football shirts

EXCLUSIVE BY DAVID COVERDALE: A wider ban on betting advertising in sport - including pitchside hoardings and TV commercials - is under consideration but is less likely at this stage.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Despite no definitive link between such advertising and problematic behavior, the moralists have made the case and it seems the government has fallen in line.
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LESS LIKELY AT THIS STAGE.
 
Shirt sponsors don't do half as much damage as things like TV adverts. If they want to ban anything, it's they online slot machines. That's the biggest, saddest, predatory scam I have ever seen.
 
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Isnt banning gambling sponsorship, really just a win for gambling companies? So long as gambling is still legal and accessible, people will gamble. I went with my dad and my granda to put on coupons or horses. It wasnt because i saw a sponsor on a shirt.

At least when you are taking money off those companies in the form of sponsorship, money from that can be used to treat addicts etc. Gambling companies can now say; "oh we would love to put money back into the sport, but we cant". All the while folk will still gamble and profits will at worst plateau and, more likely, rise.
 
I'm sure if this is true, and the Government of the day thinks gambling is so bad, they will stop taking handouts from the National Lottery to fund sport, museums, community projects, arts, NHS and all the other stuff they are meant to fund. Meanwhile in the real world.......
 
Good - there is an utter epidemic of young people in particular getting into all kinds of debt problems because gambling is so accessible.

Football clubs promoting the gambling companies is a a significant element of how normalised gambling is.

I’m not one for mollycoddling people or society but when there is something that is clearly contributing to a bad outcome then you need to take some action.
 
If this goes through then they'll have automatically removed about 80 percent of the potential pool of sponsors for Scottish football. I look forward to seeing Celtic running out sponsored by Domestos to contest the 2023 edition of the "Big Bob's Bastardin' Beans" Scottish cup.
 
Lol at all the folk saying it makes no difference cause it’s never influenced them. If it wasn’t lucrative for these companies then they wouldn’t be paying huge amounts of money to advertise. Of course it’s influencing some or it wouldn’t be worth their while.

There was quite a rise in women gamblers after they started targeting afternoon programmes that stay at home mums and part time workers etc watched.
They are sharks. Let’s not pretend they are doing it for the benefit of the sport.
 
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Well cant have for example....
Coca cola - sugary drinks rot teeth.
KFC - gast food equals obesity
Cazoo - promotes selling fossil fuel cars

What does seem to be ok is LoveHoney and numan.

Way to go
 
As another poster said, the main effect of our sponsors is to make me mildly sympathetic to their brand, that's all. I don't really bet so 32 Red is irrelevant to me, and I never drank McEwan's because it tastes like tramp's piss.

However, I have always actively avoided buying anything which sponsors the yahoos. Even when we had joint sponsors I'd be put off more by the association with the rats than attracted by the association with us.

One for when I eventually go into therapy I suppose.
 
They would just adjust it by putting their other non betting brands on the shirt and pumping more ads on the digital advertising boards as it says in the article that they are not target of this legislation yet. It happened with Darts and Snooker when they ended tobacoo sponsorship and they adapted
 
Personally, I hate any advertising/logos on the jersey, irrespective of whoever it is that's sponsoring, I much preferred the days when the jerseys were plain with just the club badge. However I'm not a total dinosaur and fully appreciate clubs need to maximise as much revenue as possible to compete in today's world. If I remember rightly, Derby County were the first British club to start this with sponsorship from SAAB in the late 70's ........ yep, give me plain jerseys any day.
 
SGL said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

REVEALED: No more betting firms to sponsor front of football shirts

EXCLUSIVE BY DAVID COVERDALE: A wider ban on betting advertising in sport - including pitchside hoardings and TV commercials - is under consideration but is less likely at this stage.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Despite no definitive link between such advertising and problematic behavior, the moralists have made the case and it seems the government has fallen in line.
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They won’t be happy til only plant based food companies can sponsor teams.
 
RabSpackman said:
Good - there is an utter epidemic of young people in particular getting into all kinds of debt problems because gambling is so accessible.

Football clubs promoting the gambling companies is a a significant element of how normalised gambling is.

I’m not one for mollycoddling people or society but when there is something that is clearly contributing to a bad outcome then you need to take some action.
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Well said Rab.

Despite us all knowing that behind the scenes, sport isn’t exactly whiter than white, if it is to be used as a promotional vehicle it should be about clean living to set an example to young (primarily) and old alike if you ask me.

No booze, no gambling, no junk food. No hedge funds. No insurance firms with questionable portfolios.

And before I get chewed for being a killjoy, there is nothing wrong with a pint, a flutter or a burger in moderation. It’s the associated blanket normalisation, as you mention, where it becomes a problem.
 
Saki said:
Not a disaster - gambling ruins the lives of many and it seems to be advertised very heavily despite all the "bet responsibly" stuff

As a student i worked for Ladbrokes - put me off gambling seeing people lose their wages the day they got them
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That's nothing new, in fact you could go way back to people going in with their pay packet and losing the lot, this before advertising was plastered all over shirts.

Lets face it, gambling was illegal for long enough till the govt decided it was a hopeless case. Much like drugs are these days.
 
TheDerryend said:
That's nothing new, in fact you could go way back to people going in with their pay packet and losing the lot, this before advertising was plastered all over shirts.

Lets face it, gambling was illegal for long enough till the govt decided it was a hopeless case. Much like drugs are these days.
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It wasn’t as easy then though. Now you can get up at 7am and have your entire wage blown before the shops open. You can gamble from on the bus, getting your hair trimmed.
 
SenoraCuellar said:
It wasn’t as easy then though. Now you can get up at 7am and have your entire wage blown before the shops open. You can gamble from on the bus, getting your hair trimmed.
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One of my mates got into the online slots just before he bought his house. Started off doing £2 spins and eventually over the course of a week, he was doing £20 automated spins using the deposit for the house. He wasn't even doing anything but pressing a button and the screen went crazy.

Some days he would say he was up £6k, the next day he was down £3k. Tried to justify it and kept going going on about how much money he would be up if he just kept at it, "You've got to have the balls to bet big". Not sure how much he eventually lost, but he did talk about almost losing the full deposit.

That's someone who had no real interest in gambling constantly, and just decided to give the online slots a go and it very nearly ruined him in a matter of weeks. With it being online, there is no "I'm handing over cash" realisation and it's far too easy to spend far more than you ordinarily would in a shop.
 
DeeCeeTee said:
One of my mates got into the online slots just before he bought his house. Started off doing £2 spins and eventually over the course of a week, he was doing £20 automated spins using the deposit for the house. He wasn't even doing anything but pressing a button and the screen went crazy.

Some days he would say he was up £6k, the next day he was down £3k. Tried to justify it and kept going going on about how much money he would be up if he just kept at it, "You've got to have the balls to bet big". Not sure how much he eventually lost, but he did talk about almost losing the full deposit.

That's someone who had no real interest in gambling constantly, and just decided to give the online slots a go and it very nearly ruined him in a matter of weeks. With it being online, there is no "I'm handing over cash" realisation and it's far too easy to spend far more than you ordinarily would in a shop.
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I signed up one night a few years ago after an advert for Jackpot Joy came on. I was on my own, husband was in hospital. “It’s just bingo” I thought so I’m playing but there’s mini slots at the bottom and there’s a chat at the side so you don’t really notice how long you’ve been playing, it’s fun. Then the bank declined my card. I’d went through £1,800, my entire wage in five or six hours. Without a single check done. I will never forget that feeling logging into my bank and having 6p. Signed up to gamstop. Never again as I can see how it just swallows you. My heart breaks for people like your friend.
 
Understandable. The worst ever incident was the FA Cup a couple of years ago where you could only watch certain matches if you had put money in a gambling account. (Can't remember which betting company it was)
 
Know it's been said, but can't stop laughing at the idea of David Coverdale actually sitting there writing this totally random article in the still of the night
 
CoopBlue said:
Good.

Hope it signals the ending of our current shirt sponsor and their hideous logo's.
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Will it be good if we can’t make as much money from alternative sponsors because drama queens like you don’t like the wee tagline at the bottom of a sponsor?
 
SGL said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

REVEALED: No more betting firms to sponsor front of football shirts

EXCLUSIVE BY DAVID COVERDALE: A wider ban on betting advertising in sport - including pitchside hoardings and TV commercials - is under consideration but is less likely at this stage.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Despite no definitive link between such advertising and problematic behavior, the moralists have made the case and it seems the government has fallen in line.
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Good riddance. The normalisation of gambling through sport is a disgrace.
 
BlueNoseBlueblood said:
I agree with other measures/actions drawing us towards a nanny state,
but you have to consider the unspoken thoughts in kids heads as they
start following football

"why are gambling and booze logos bigger than our wee badge, surely our badge is more important dad/mum coz thats about football, should I gamble
when I grow up, will it make me a better footballer?"
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Any wean that daft is doomed anyway
 
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