Mickey Donovan
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Furthough the staff who will lose 20% of their pay yet the players will still get their 15k plus salary a week eventually.
Yeh, so you were wrong about this part.
Furthough the staff who will lose 20% of their pay yet the players will still get their 15k plus salary a week eventually.
You would give an aspirin a sore head you moan that much about Rangers, the Management, players and Executive Directors have deferred half their wages for 3 months and still not enough for you, the same players that have earned us about £25m from Europe in the last two seasons.Correct, in which I think is wrong.
Furthough the staff who will lose 20% of their pay yet the players will still get their 15k plus salary a week eventually.
No kidding Sherlock, they can put £100 on my season ticket if they want and I as a fan will help pay, why should an employee be the ones to be punished when we have 40k season ticket holders to spread the burden on the clubE
Eh to help the club financially, a deferral still means the club will need to find the money from somewhere to pay the players eventually.
I think that would require new contracts to be signed for each player as not paying the deferred part of the salary in this tax year would have tax implications both for us as a company and the players as individuals.
Hmmm...thought we would see players and management agreeing a wage cut.
Deferring 50% of their salaries means we will have millions to pay out in July/August which will hamper our ability to strengthen the squad.
Better than nothing of course as it helps cash flow in short term but slightly underwhelmed at this.
He is an arseBeen struggling for opportunities to take a snipe at our players recently? Really squeezing this one in.
It was my initial thought too....pay the smaller salaries, maintain the moral high ground over septic, but what if "non-playing staff" includes SG, GMc, Ross Wilson and other highly paid staff? I would imagine it's a close call.Liverpool have reversed their decision to take government money to pay furloughed staff.
Disappointed we’ve gone ahead with it. They’re paid very little relative to our overall budget. I don’t see why we need to beg for government assistance.
For helping the Clubs cash flow when most neededFor what?
The Government pay 80%, Rangers pay 20%.
I think this may deserve a thread of its own but admin feel free to merge if appropriate.
What are the numbers here? Annual wage bill of 34.5m. simple head tells me that divided by 12 its 2.875m per month. So in 3 months time the club will pay out £8.5m approximately in back dates pay, probably from next years budget?
What is your problem with people being paid their contracts?Does that make it all right that the players are effectively doing nothing and will still be picking up their £££.
HMRC are merely the tax collectors. We’re not taking money from them - they don’t have any money themselves. It’s all taxpayer money.The same HMRC that fucked us over aye??
What if you can't afford to pay an extra £100 per season ticket because you aren't getting a full wage?No kidding Sherlock, they can put £100 on my season ticket if they want and I as a fan will help pay, why should an employee be the ones to be punished when we have 40k season ticket holders to spread the burden on the club
Oh but they will.If they furlough the other staff I’ll be disappointed.
Would you take a 30% pay cut? Or is it only other people to take it to help their employersSurely a 30% cut would be better than owing management money down the line?
So if it ensures all colleagues continue to recieve their salaries in full, then why are we using the government scheme.All parties volunteered and wholeheartedly agreed to defer wages to ensure that fellow colleagues could continue to be paid their salaries in full.
Or vote with your feet.Fair enough mate, but I genuinely think it’s quite easy to connect the dots, and he club statement put out since then further suggests that the players were almost certainly asked if they’d be prepared to take a cut (because like I said, that really helps us out a lot, a big bill for in 3 months time doesn’t) and we could have avoided furloughing.
But, nothing we can do about it so this is how it is and we have to accept it.
Fair enough, over the course of the tax year then. The point is, I doubt we will be due to pay all the deferred wages in one go in month four. I hope. Of course, neither of us know.
I would have my doubts that all nonplaying staff are getting furloughedDisappointed that we’ve furloughed non-playing staff. A club isn’t just about matches. Now is the time we should be putting focus on technology, social media, marketing etc. This lockdown could have given us an opportunity to get wins where we wouldn’t regularly have the time.
As a tedious example, it would’ve been nice to get some Rangers gifs added to Instagram. Now it seems our account will be on hiatus.
Shite or JobbyHMRC are merely the tax collectors. We’re not taking money from them - they don’t have any money themselves. It’s all taxpayer money.
with respect what is you logic re your post.Excellent from the management and players. Real class shown through.
But u might find the gov paying 80% and the club paying the 20%If they furlough the other staff I’ll be disappointed.
They are all panicking because they sad they would not buy ST until the players did somethingMaybe all the morally outraged should delete their accounts on here and give the rest of us realists a rest
Could be split over a few months aye but with the bulk of our cash coming in from books by the summer, it would be wise to just clear our feet at that point and then budget accordingly for the rest of the season on matchday/Euro income projections.
Maybe I was being optimistic but I really thought we'd see them agreeing to a 20-30% cut. I get all the arguments about it not being their fault etc. but this pandemic will end up affecting us a lot more than some think.
With a wage bill of circa £30m per annum, a 3 month deferral of 50%, equates to £4m. That's in addition to the funds we've lost from the 5 home games that we had due to play. A big dunt in our summer budget.
We are not Liverpool. We have nowhere near the money they have.Liverpool have reversed their decision to take government money to pay furloughed staff.
Disappointed we’ve gone ahead with it. They’re paid very little relative to our overall budget. I don’t see why we need to beg for government assistance.
Disappointed that we’ve furloughed non-playing staff. A club isn’t just about matches. Now is the time we should be putting focus on technology, social media, marketing etc. This lockdown could have given us an opportunity to get wins where we wouldn’t regularly have the time.
As a tedious example, it would’ve been nice to get some Rangers gifs added to Instagram. Now it seems our account will be on hiatus.
But u might find the gov paying 80% and the club paying the 20%
That’s what my work is doing
Yes mate same with mine, but doesn’t sit right that any football club in the world that can afford to pay players thousands of pounds a week then make the government pay 80% of their non playing staffs wages.
It’s not just rangers most clubs are at it.
To be perfectly honest our Summer budget, I’d suggest, is the least of our concerns right now. Let’s just see the Club come out the other end of this crisis first and take things from there.
I've been critical of the top football clubs who are attempting to take advantage of the government help so far, and the fact that it's now us changes nothing.Liverpool have reversed their decision to take government money to pay furloughed staff.
Disappointed we’ve gone ahead with it. They’re paid very little relative to our overall budget. I don’t see why we need to beg for government assistance.
I doubt there will be very many furloughed who are earning more than £37500The government payment is 80% of salary but is capped at £2,500 per month.
So if you earn £37,500 per year the government pays £2,500 per month towards you salary on the scheme (80% of £37,500 is £30,000 which equates to £2,500 per month).
If Rangers are paying all non playing staff 100% of their salary, anyone on more than £37,500 (and there will be a good number) needs their pay topped up by more than 20%.
It is what it isYes mate same with mine, but doesn’t sit right that any football club in the world that can afford to pay players thousands of pounds a week then make the government pay 80% of their non playing staffs wages.
It’s not just rangers most clubs are at it.
Not every one will be able to but I find it rich that players who work for the club and not fans are getting a hard time for helping the cash flow issues .Im sure if the fans were asked lots would also help with an optional levy on the ST.What if you can't afford to pay an extra £100 per season ticket because you aren't getting a full wage?