Behave yourself mate, Owens goal was phenomenalMichael Owen's "wonder goal" against Argentina in France 98. The single most over-rated goal in the history of the World Cup. He only actually attacks and beats two players. It wasn't even the best goal of that GAME - Zanetti's equaliser to make it 2-2 was a fantastic set piece.
The Owen strike was a good goal made even more impressive by the fact he was so young at the time - but it has been in no way deserving of the footballing immortality that has been bestowed upon it.
Having lived for 8 years in Manchester, all over the city, I concur. It is nonsense.
As for generally accepted truths that are wrong, playing a second leg at home in a two-legged tie is best. Rangers played Bremen away, Sporting away and Fiorentina away second en-route to Manchester and Liverpool player Porto, city and Roma away last year yet also reached the CL final.
Behave yourself mate, Owens goal was phenomenal
Not all players have kids mateMy understanding is that it's to do with the players not getting time with their kids - Wednesday/Saturday gives them Sunday with the kids, but Thursday/Sunday usually has players training on Saturday.
Just adds another layer imoVAR will stop controversy in the game. Bull*hit
I thought winning the fa Cup that season went a long way to keeping his job.Mark Robins saved Alex Ferguson's job by hitting the winner in the FA Cup at Forest.
Martin Edwards has denied it for years that Ferguson's job hinged on that result.
No, but there are plenty involving ScotlandNot for Scotland.
I think it's like something like 1 in every 30 corners taken ends in a goal. You're about as likely to concede from one as you are to score from it.
Agreed that wee dink for the finish is sublime, crespo-esque in the Liverpool final, but for an overall goal, the one versus Argentina for me my friend shades itThere's a goal that Owen scores at the start of the following season v Newcastle for the hat trick that was so much better than the Argentina one.
His finish is absolutely exceptional
You better believe it just ask Kazakhstan .There are no easy games in international football. Yes there are.
In the last round Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Ajax all played at home first and that’s just off the top of my head. Happens all too often to be just seen as exceptions.How do those examples prove it wrong? If we had played at home second, we may have won every tie by a bigger margin. Exceptions do not prove a rule!
Think this is mainly a British (definitely Scottish thing) tbhNot sure if this is universally accepted but the whole "playing against 10 men is harder than playing against 11".
But the results if the ties are unknown and therefore have absolutely no bearing on whether it is easier to play away first or second (or no difference).In the last round Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Ajax all played at home first and that’s just off the top of my head. Happens all too often to be just seen as exceptions.
You're right, of course. Whenever did 'chopped off' become common?That goals are "chopped off" rather than the correct term of "chalked off"
Chopped off is not 'wrong', it is just 'different'. it is still perfectly good English and works the same.You're right, of course. Whenever did 'chopped off' become common?
I’m not sure what you mean by your first point bud. It appears to contradict your second? Unless I amBut the results if the ties are unknown and therefore have absolutely no bearing on whether it is easier to play away first or second (or no difference).
Pretty much every manager going and in the past that has commented has said it is easier to play away first.
Indeed not. If you're recording scores on a 'chalk board' and got it wrong then it's normal to 'chalk it off'. I'm not sure what sort of cretin you have to be to record scores on a 'chop board' and then 'chop it off'.Chopped off is not 'wrong', it is just 'different'. it is still perfectly good English and works the same.
Absolutely! It was right up there with Mbappe in the Summer a phenomenal goal from OwenBehave yourself mate, Owens goal was phenomenal
Only head injuries require play to be stopped, this isn’t correct it is solely the referees decision on how serious he thinks an injury is.
Also “last man” fouls, but that seems to be dying out thankfully.
There’s tonnes of rules commentators and pundits get wrong regularly, the basic refereeing course should be a requirement you’d think for anyone actually paid to talk about the sport.
I’m not sure what you mean by your first point bud. It appears to contradict your second? Unless I am
being daft?
I think the benefit is probably far less than people think. A quick look shows plenty of evidence that there is probably little benefit and that the best side generally prevails regardless of the order of the legs.
That goals are "chopped off" rather than the correct term of "chalked off"
Indeed not. If you're recording scores on a 'chalk board' and got it wrong then it's normal to 'chalk it off'. I'm not sure what sort of cretin you have to be to record scores on a 'chop board' and then 'chop it off'.
You're certainly not someone whose first language is English.
Ok, that makes sense.It is clumsily worded I will try to explain a little better. Naming teams who have won ties with the second leg away does not contradict the thought that they are harder. It could mean that those teams played particularly well to overcome the negative. A side winning after a first leg at home is not evidence that the assertion is wrong, it simply means that side won a game.
Again, the managers who say it makes a difference are most likely speaking from experience rather than rolling out a cliche and if 2 sides are reasonably similarly matched, the benefit would be more obvious.
Ok, that makes sense.
I always used to think it made sense but increasingly I am not so sure as there are so many examples of sides winning after playing at home first. It feels like there has been a bit of a shift in mindset in recent years. If you were at home first, years ago the mindset was ‘let’s put it to bed in the first leg,’ however now a lot of sides think ‘start with a clean sheet and even a narrow win is decent.’
Would probably need to do a broader research over a longer period to see whether the advantage is borne out or not?
You can try and defend it all you like. The idiom is based on 'chalking' rather than 'chopping'. That you confuse the terms is very much to your demerit. I suspect it's a common flaw for English learners.Chopping something is, reasonably obviously, cutting something off it. Something like a score in a football match. To Chop is the verb, not a noun, in this case. Being a professor of English, you will obviously know that.
What an absolutely moronic post
What are you gibbering on about? The idiom is chalking off a goal. Well done. Using the word chop to describe, well, chopping, is also fine. That is all I said and that is 100% correct. That you fail to grasp that very basic and very obvious concept, yet still feel empowered to question intelligence in others says far more about you than any verbose rant I could put on a message board. So, that being said, I will leave you alone and allow your stupidity to speak for you.You can try and defend it all you like. The idiom is based on 'chalking' rather than 'chopping'. That you confuse the terms is very much to your demerit. I suspect it's a common flaw for English learners.
Except that yin is often true!'Ma granny could have scored/saved that one'
“Penalty shootouts are a lottery”
No they aren’t. The more you practice penalties, the better you get. The more the entire team practice penalties, the better the team will be at shootouts.
Thanks. Let's park this before you make even more of an arse of yourself.What are you gibbering on about? The idiom is chalking off a goal.
Thanks. Let's park this before you make even more of an arse of yourself.
You're all right, mate. You've ripped the arse out of this topic.Go back to my very first post
You're all right, mate. You've ripped the arse out of this topic.
That Pro Youth is a good idea.
I believe it causes more damage than it does good. Boys should be playing with their Boys Clubs and school teams until the age of 16.
Only then should clubs be permitted to sign a player on some kind of contract. By all means have coaching days and friendlies etc. Boys Clubs and their leagues are being destroyed by having their best players taken away leaving behind boys who believe they aren't good enough when in truth they may only be taking longer to grow physically and mature mentally than others.
Thousands of potential players are being lost this way. Allow them to grow up and play football together and the cream will rise to be taken to the next level by the professional clubs.
Pro Youth was introduced in 1994 and Scotland haven't qualified since 1998. The problem? We have Xbox's now? Nah not for me.
“Penalty shootouts are a lottery”
No they aren’t. The more you practice penalties, the better you get. The more the entire team practice penalties, the better the team will be at shootouts.