Amer gojak

KGR98 said:
I think giving the money that Zagreb players go for we are probably scouting Rijeka either for a player or possible European opposition
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Do you mean potential opposition we could face in the europa 3rd/4rth qualifying round?

That would be a bit bizarre considering how many teams we would need to watch? Surely we would just wait to see who we have been drawn against and then watch them/watch videos of pervious games?

Agree with you on Zagreb, we will not be signing one of their big up and coming talents and this boy is very highly rated, will go for £10million+ by all reports.

Would think it will definitely be a Rijeka player we are scouting/keeping tabs on.

I know people are going to point to grezda but personally I think this league/area of europe is an area we should be scouting heavily, problem is a lot of other clubs will be doing the same.
 
Bluebrox said:
Yep.

And as SG says, unfortunately there has to be people who make way.

If we want to win trophies we need to be ruthless in our desire for success.

Sentiment is nice but there can be no room for it when needs must.

The mentally challenged's trophy haul HAS to be stopped dead in its tracks. Playing second to them is no longer an option. Honeymoon period is over. Serious business now.
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100% Bluebrox.

We need to take tough decisions no matter what the manager thinks they are.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
100% Bluebrox.

We need to take tough decisions no matter what the manager thinks they are.
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Exactly mate. We have to trust him. He sees them up close and knows them inside out.

We all have our impressions and perceptions of things but ultimately SG has his finger on the pulse and he knows what it takes to deliver.

We want success and to get 55, so I am more than happy for him decide how to get us there and with which personnel.
 
Bluebrox said:
Exactly mate. We have to trust him. He sees them up close and knows them inside out.

We all have our impressions and perceptions of things but ultimately SG has his finger on the pulse and he knows what it takes to deliver.

We want success and to get 55, so I am more than happy for him decide how to get us there and with which personnel.
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Absolutely Bluebrox.

We all have opinions but as you say the man is a credit to himself & the club & I trust him to do what is best for the club no matter how unpalatable it might seem.
 
Spart7 said:
Didn't see Grezda chasing back and putting in some cracking challenges which shows workrate, desire and a will to win. 3 things missing from Grezda's clips and his performances. No team of the calibre chasing this lad were interested in grezda either. Think you're seeing what you want to see.
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I no bother yur the one choosing wat u want out the clip uve choose defending parts oppose to the going forward! Neva got the chance to see much of grezda anyway and I was saying what he was supposed to offer not what he did which was the square root of feck all!!
Not to worry grezdas off and this just a rumour ;)
 
LoganBear said:
Do you mean potential opposition we could face in the europa 3rd/4rth qualifying round?

That would be a bit bizarre considering how many teams we would need to watch? Surely we would just wait to see who we have been drawn against and then watch them/watch videos of pervious games?

Agree with you on Zagreb, we will not be signing one of their big up and coming talents and this boy is very highly rated, will go for £10million+ by all reports.

Would think it will definitely be a Rijeka player we are scouting/keeping tabs on.

I know people are going to point to grezda but personally I think this league/area of europe is an area we should be scouting heavily, problem is a lot of other clubs will be doing the same.
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I'd love us to have a look in Romania tbh a very impressive u21 team in the recent championships and from what I have seen is a very competitive league full of under the rader quality
 
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archimedes said:
This thread reminds me of when Eck was in charge and we were linked with a loan deal for a young Argentinian...

...we got Federico Nieto.
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haha I actually remember the rumour sweeping this messageboard was we were getting messi from barca as he was 18-ish at the time:)):)):))

Interesting to check nietos stats.

Started 1 game for us.
5 sub appearances.
3 goals.
 
KGR98 said:
I'd love us to have a look in Romania tbh a very impressive u21 team in the recent championships and from what I have seen is a very competitive league full of under the rader qualityb
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Elvir Koljic the Bosnian striker at Uni
Craovia was bought for 450€k last season.

They rejected a 5€m bid from Zenit.

Good striker but this market may not be as cheap as you think mate.
 
Miyagi said:
Aribo is a number 8 who has creative qualities but he isnt a playmaker type which I think we are missing.
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When you play with only 3 mids as we usually do its very hard to fit a 'luxury' style attacking mid into the team as all 3 of our mids need to get about the park, be hard working and have a wide range of attributes.

Yes we could probably play with an attacking mid/no.10 against some of the smaller teams but in the bigger/more difficult games I just dont see where a no.10 would fit in.

The caveat is I think maybe our DOF said a while back that we were potentially looking to add a no.10 to the squad but perhaps the thinking has changed on that front and with aribo + the plethora of attacking wide men added to the squad we may not be in that market anymore.

Personally Id rather see another no.9 added to the squad before a number 10, I know they will not be first choice ahead of freddo/defoe but I wouldnt be surprised to see a youngish 'project' player in the style of edmundsen or a EPL loan come in.
 
LoganBear said:
When you play with only 3 mids as we usually do its very hard to fit a 'luxury' style attacking mid into the team as all 3 of our mids need to get about the park, be hard working and have a wide range of attributes.

Yes we could probably play with an attacking mid/no.10 against some of the smaller teams but in the bigger/more difficult games I just dont see where a no.10 would fit in.

The caveat is I think maybe our DOF said a while back that we were potentially looking to add a no.10 to the squad but perhaps the thinking has changed on that front and with aribo + the plethora of attacking wide men added to the squad we may not be in that market anymore.

Personally Id rather see another no.9 added to the squad before a number 10, I know they will not be first choice ahead of freddo/defoe but I wouldnt be surprised to see a youngish 'project' player in the style of edmundsen or a EPL loan come in.
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Think we can sometimes get too fixated on what role a player “should” do as opposed to what they do do. We’ve had an attacking midfielder who was good in attack but shit in midfield in Windass. And Arfield who finds his attacking prowess stifled when playing in a midfield 3 while also not being as effective in it as a more conventional midfielder. But that doesn’t mean that no number 10s exist who can do both. Gazza was a brilliant number 10 who also mucked in in midfield while Albertz was one of the best attacking mids i’ve Ever seen in Scotland but could also tackle and create.

Not saying we can get a Gazza or an Albertz but some players can do more than 1 role
 
LoganBear said:
When you play with only 3 mids as we usually do its very hard to fit a 'luxury' style attacking mid into the team as all 3 of our mids need to get about the park, be hard working and have a wide range of attributes.

Yes we could probably play with an attacking mid/no.10 against some of the smaller teams but in the bigger/more difficult games I just dont see where a no.10 would fit in.

The caveat is I think maybe our DOF said a while back that we were potentially looking to add a no.10 to the squad but perhaps the thinking has changed on that front and with aribo + the plethora of attacking wide men added to the squad we may not be in that market anymore.

Personally Id rather see another no.9 added to the squad before a number 10, I know they will not be first choice ahead of freddo/defoe but I wouldnt be surprised to see a youngish 'project' player in the style of edmundsen or a EPL loan come in.
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I agree with you LoganBear.

Not sure SGs thinking has a number 10 in it.

We don’t have a big athlete option as a striker who will score lots with the head & who has pace to burn. I’d like that option.
 
Defo agree on the striker mate, even if we somehow keep freddo for another year I think we need a 3rd striking option- ideally who has a bit of physicality about him, is decent in the air and can hold the ball up.
 
LoganBear said:
When you play with only 3 mids as we usually do its very hard to fit a 'luxury' style attacking mid into the team as all 3 of our mids need to get about the park, be hard working and have a wide range of attributes.

Yes we could probably play with an attacking mid/no.10 against some of the smaller teams but in the bigger/more difficult games I just dont see where a no.10 would fit in.
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You need to be able to mix things up though than stick to 1 rigid formation.

We could go a straight 4-3-3 with our current centre mid options, or can switch to a 4-2-3-1 where having an attacking midfielder in front can be massively helpful. This will ring especially true in the games at Ibrox where teams sat in looking to frustrate us and we struggled in the past with 4-3-3 and not being able to pick holes in the packed defence, and playing the ball out wide then lobbing crosses in was bread and butter for alot of the journeymen.

An attacking midfielder being able to link the lines properly will cause the Scottish defences all sorts of problems. It's the very reason the likes of Rogic is successful at them, its the position he plays and having that option in the squad to mix it up is always a good thing.

You could have Davis and Jack/Karama sitting with the 3 in front being from:

Aribo/Murphy/Jones Arfield/Gojak (talking sakes) Ojo/Candeias/Stewart
 
Gazman_Airdrie said:
You need to be able to mix things up though than stick to 1 rigid formation.

We could go a straight 4-3-3 with our current centre mid options, or can switch to a 4-2-3-1 where having an attacking midfielder in front can be massively helpful. This will ring especially true in the games at Ibrox where teams sat in looking to frustrate us and we struggled in the past with 4-3-3 and not being able to pick holes in the packed defence, and playing the ball out wide then lobbing crosses in was bread and butter for alot of the journeymen.

An attacking midfielder being able to link the lines properly will cause the Scottish defences all sorts of problems. It's the very reason the likes of Rogic is successful at them, its the position he plays and having that option in the squad to mix it up is always a good thing.
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Do agree with you Gazman. The problem I see is this guy needs to be quality to hurt the best teams.
If he’s quality he costs good money. BUT if we don’t use him every week are we getting true value for that money if SGs default is to 433 ?
 
LoganBear said:
Defo agree on the striker mate, even if we somehow keep freddo for another year I think we need a 3rd striking option- ideally who has a bit of physicality about him, is decent in the air and can hold the ball up.
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Greg Stewart will play through the middle if required.
 
LoganBear said:
See I dont think he will.

Im 95% sure even if morelos stays we will bring in another proper no.9 centre forward.

Time will tell mate.
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We might bring in one later in the window, depending on options and whether Alfie stays. If he does, I think we'll go with what have in the forward areas.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
Do agree with you Gazman. The problem I see is this guy needs to be quality to hurt the best teams.
If he’s quality he costs good money. BUT if we don’t use him every week are we getting true value for that money if SGs default is to 433 ?
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Issue with this particular bloke (who seems outwith our price range) is that i’m not 100% sure where he plays. That’s on me but can anyone advise? His goals return looks fairly poor for a specialist attacking mid and assists also are not very high for a number 10. Does he usually play deeper as the playmaker? That wouldn’t necessarily fit in to the roles folk seem to be suggesting for him.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
I agree with you LoganBear.

Not sure SGs thinking has a number 10 in it.

We don’t have a big athlete option as a striker who will score lots with the head & who has pace to burn. I’d like that option.
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It all depends what for formation we play,if we play the same formation we did at end of last season then a number 10/creative player would suit that system no doubt and i also think that a creative player could also play in the midfield 3 of a 443 against teams who put 10 men behind the ball when the emphasis is on attacking.
I also think though if we get Kent then we definitely ain’t getting a ‘number 10’
 
LoganBear said:
When you play with only 3 mids as we usually do its very hard to fit a 'luxury' style attacking mid into the team as all 3 of our mids need to get about the park, be hard working and have a wide range of attributes.

Yes we could probably play with an attacking mid/no.10 against some of the smaller teams but in the bigger/more difficult games I just dont see where a no.10 would fit in.

The caveat is I think maybe our DOF said a while back that we were potentially looking to add a no.10 to the squad but perhaps the thinking has changed on that front and with aribo + the plethora of attacking wide men added to the squad we may not be in that market anymore.

Personally Id rather see another no.9 added to the squad before a number 10, I know they will not be first choice ahead of freddo/defoe but I wouldnt be surprised to see a youngish 'project' player in the style of edmundsen or a EPL loan come in.
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Isnt the simplest option the best . Our return on freekicks and corners is a blight on our statistics. Why dont we get a team player who is a dead ball expert , that would have turned around a number of games v the weaker teams who blunt us by packing the final third . Alongside our improved defence and MF this makes the package both more robust and hold greater threat.
 
Just as an aside Lille are chasing Domagoj Bradaric from Hajduk. Left back only been on a professional contract since June last year. Under 21 level, not yet 20. Hajduk already knocked back a €4 million offer. If we still in the Croat market for talent we will have to dig deep or be very'lucky' (like we were with Katic).
 
Starting Anew said:
Issue with this particular bloke (who seems outwith our price range) is that i’m not 100% sure where he plays. That’s on me but can anyone advise? His goals return looks fairly poor for a specialist attacking mid and assists also are not very high for a number 10. Does he usually play deeper as the playmaker? That wouldn’t necessarily fit in to the roles folk seem to be suggesting for him.
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I have to say SA I share your concern.

Dare I say it, my thoughts are getting someone who runs beyond the striker centrally, like a Windass but with guts, might be more suitable to add to what we have in the squad as a group ? It doesn’t look, at very limited pitch time, as if Aribo adds that, albeit Arfield does to an extent, without great pace. Or could Ojo be developed to take that role on ?
 
You could spend all day coming up with hypothetical midfield permutations in order to justify the signing of Gojak. But aside from the fact that he's likely to be beyond our reach in terms of a transfer fee, trying to give the players in our already well-stocked midfield sufficient playing time to keep them all happy would be a nightmare for Gerrard. Inevitably, if Gojak were signed, one or two of our current midfield would have to leave. The question is which ones
 
baystatebear said:
You could spend all day coming up with hypothetical midfield permutations in order to justify the signing of Gojak. But aside from the fact that he's likely to be beyond our reach in terms of a transfer fee, trying to give the players in our already well-stocked midfield sufficient playing time to keep them all happy would be a nightmare for Gerrard. Inevitably, if Gojak were signed, one or two of our current midfield would have to leave. The question is which ones
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Our current midfielders of note are:
Jack, Davis, Kamara, Aribo, Arfield, Docherty, Halliday.

Halliday is not expected to play midfield. He is a back up left back who could go in the middle in a disaster.

I don’t think Arfield is seen as primarily for the middle 3. He’s competing for a place in the front 3 (though he might play in the middle in some games).

Doc is great to have around but is probably not really seen as a regular starter. He is the second reserve.

So we really just have 4 players really duelling for a spot in the middle 3. 4.5 if you include Arfield. Having a fifth player is not really a huge number and having 5(.5) for 3 spaces is probably sensible. Doc might find it frustrating but he’d be the only one really at risk of losing significant game time. There will be more than enough games for 5 players plus sometimes Arfield to get a chance to shine.
 
mr_snrub said:
They're usually pretty accurate I think. He might be on our list of players incase Alfie goes.
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If we have a bid accepted, it will be matched immediately by a club that can afford bigger wages.

He's on la liga clubs radars
 
Necro said:
If we have a bid accepted, it will be matched immediately by a club that can afford bigger wages.

He's on la liga clubs radars
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Yeah more than likely, I'm surprised we're in for him. Most likely the only way we could afford him is if Alfie goes and even then surely we'd want another striker?
Let's hope the guy has a poster of SG on his wall and an old Albertz top.
 
might be a good pal of Katic's... might feel a move to Rangers would be the right one?!

but yeah, the fee would be too big for us..
 
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