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Valley Bluenose

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So... What is it? BT Sports or not? So many differing answers :D
Despite the trumpeting of it as a deal with BT Sport that is not, quite, the case. The deal is with production company Sunset & Vine - though it looks like they will be getting the likes of Sutton on co-comms. Much as we do with former players.:


Delighted Celtic have hailed the agreement that will see BT Sport's pundits star on their virtual season-ticket package.

Record Sport exclusively revealed the Premiership champions secured a deal with Sunset + Vine to provide punditry for the home league games when the game returns.

Our columnist and Celtic hero Chris Sutton is expected to be joined by the likes of Gordon Strachan and Michael Stewart as the Hoops aim to give their fans a full experience while they are unable to attend amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

The club statement read: “Clearly, current circumstances are totally outwith our control, and while getting our supporters back to Celtic Park is our absolute priority, until this is the case, through our season ticket, we aim to give our fans the best access we can to SPFL matches at Celtic Park.

“We will be making a significant investment in this project, partnering with one of the best production companies around and will deliver an experience, with top expertise and contributors, which will put our fans at the heart of the action from Celtic Park.

“We are joining forces with an organisation renowned for delivering high quality coverage and we look forward to making this available our season ticket holders.”

Former Hoops heroes Johan Mjallby and John Hartson are two other big names who could feature as Celtic go in search of history by securing 10 In A Row.

Sunset + Vine chief Grant Philips, added: "We are delighted to partner with Celtic Football Club and look forward to bringing our unrivalled production expertise to the live matchday programming.
 
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SimonLeBon

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So the tarriers are going to have a professional set up for their home games on their virtual season ticket.

I expect exactly the same from Rangers.

Sorry Tom Miller and Ian Durrant but there is levels now.

Make it so Rangers.
So you think Sutton and Craigan are professional?
 

Goity

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Andy Gray would be a good shout for a professional commentator for a new look RTV running through Amazon. One of us, witty, knows the game.

One can but dream.
 

mart22

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Rangers TV has desperately needed an upgrade for ages, this is going to hopefully make it unavoidable.

We need pre and post match analysis at the very least, proper commentators too.
Rangers TV is fine as it is. RTV isn't licensed to broadcast in the UK. Its primary purpose is broadcasting matches for overseas bears to view. However, RTV will be broadcasting to season ticket holders in Britain while matches are played behind closed doors. But it will back to business as usual when supporters go back to matches.
 

Necro

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Rangers TV is fine as it is. RTV isn't licensed to broadcast in the UK. Its primary purpose is broadcasting matches for overseas bears to view. However, RTV will be broadcasting to season ticket holders in Britain while matches are played behind closed doors. But it will back to business as usual when supporters go back to matches.
It's nowhere close to fine. There's no proper buildup, half time or full time analysis. They play reruns from RTV features at half time

It's over £200 a year for sub par coverage. Other clubs have actual content outside of the 90 minutes.
 

Jjbscotty

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Rangers TV is fine as it is. RTV isn't licensed to broadcast in the UK. Its primary purpose is broadcasting matches for overseas bears to view. However, RTV will be broadcasting to season ticket holders in Britain while matches are played behind closed doors. But it will back to business as usual when supporters go back to matches.
Rtv needs to get an upgrade on Tom miller imo.
 

Barrymoped

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Rangers TV is fine as it is. RTV isn't licensed to broadcast in the UK. Its primary purpose is broadcasting matches for overseas bears to view. However, RTV will be broadcasting to season ticket holders in Britain while matches are played behind closed doors. But it will back to business as usual when supporters go back to matches.
For overseas bears paying roughly the same as a Sky Sports subscription it most certainly is not fine.
It needs upgraded.
 

SuperGers07

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It’s crap and needs an overhaul
Rangers TV is fine as it is. RTV isn't licensed to broadcast in the UK. Its primary purpose is broadcasting matches for overseas bears to view. However, RTV will be broadcasting to season ticket holders in Britain while matches are played behind closed doors. But it will back to business as usual when supporters go back to matches.
 

NDC bear forever

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I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but I’m content to have a real Bear like Tom than some neutral
He’s really unprofessional, just because he’s one of us doesn’t mean he’s good. Get someone proper in to compliment McCoist and get proper coverage with the likes of McCann and Thomson as pundits. I’m sure Tom would be good at hosting RSC nights but as a commentator of Rangers’s official channel he doesn’t cut it.
 

NDC bear forever

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TBH it’s a good move by them. Means their games will be broadcast in HD and extremely unlikely to lag much.

We are badly needing to do something to improve RangersTV.
To be fair Rangers have upgraded our streaming to the one Man City use. An upgrade of the matchday coverage is required though.
 

NDC bear forever

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Do folk seriously think Sutton and Craigan are going to rock up on Celtic TV next year ?

Sutton does that shitey BT goals show every Saturday afternoon. Craigan also reports for said shitey goals show. There's not a chance they're chucking that to sit in a studio with Tom Boyd to discuss Sellik's 3-0 win over St Johnstone at an empty Parkhead.

I imagine Sutton will feature more heavily on BT's EPL coverage next season.

The Tims are hiring the production company. I'd imagine Sellik TV will feature Squint eyed Boyd still banging out his favourite conspiracy theories weekly for the demented audience.
Sutton is contracted to Sunset and Vine production, he’ll be doing the Tarrier games as well as Stewart. Craigan I'm not sure about
 

Daviec86

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So am I boycotting bt now? What's that Adidas ,Nike and others I can't remember as there are so many. Even though they sponsor clubs all over the world. Means IL need to throw some of my collection of old Rangers tops out seen as they are sponsored by Adidas and Nike. Let's hope porkheed don't start using cushelle bog roll as that's my favourite. Will need to find an alternative to that Aswel ffs
 

Necro

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He’s really unprofessional, just because he’s one of us doesn’t mean he’s good. Get someone proper in to compliment McCoist and get proper coverage with the likes of McCann and Thomson as pundits. I’m sure Tom would be good at hosting RSC nights but as a commentator of Rangers’s official channel he doesn’t cut it.
If anyone else had embarrassed the club as much as he has over the past few years they'd have been sacked
 

NDC bear forever

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So am I boycotting bt now? What's that Adidas ,Nike and others I can't remember as there are so many. Even though they sponsor clubs all over the world. Means IL need to throw some of my collection of old Rangers tops out seen as they are sponsored by Adidas and Nike. Let's hope porkheed don't start using cushelle bog roll as that's my favourite. Will need to find an alternative to that Aswel ffs
Jesus
 

cooprfc

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Going against the grain here a wee bit but I don't care really if Rangers just fire the game on with no build up and no analysis. I don't get it at home games anyway. I turn up, watch the game while folk round about me, and me, shout our own ideas on the game then off I go again.

Analysis is just one person's opinion.

I want to see the game. Everything else is a sideshow and I'd rather the club didn't waste money on giving us fancy montages of the last time we played St Mirren and Hamilton.
 

WATP_74

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Going against the grain here a wee bit but I don't care really if Rangers just fire the game on with no build up and no analysis. I don't get it at home games anyway. I turn up, watch the game while folk round about me, and me, shout our own ideas on the game then off I go again.

Analysis is just one person's opinion.

I want to see the game. Everything else is a sideshow and I'd rather the club didn't waste money on giving us fancy montages of the last time we played St Mirren and Hamilton.
It's a valid point: would a better pre- and post-game show get more people to subscribe and generate more money for Rangers?
Probably not.
Would a reliable HD picture of the game with no buffering get more people to sign up?
Probably.
Like you, all I care about is watching the game.
Spend the money on improving the streaming reliability, then on a good commentary team, and lastly on pre- and post-game stuff.
 

Beer Belly Loyal

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Going against the grain here a wee bit but I don't care really if Rangers just fire the game on with no build up and no analysis. I don't get it at home games anyway. I turn up, watch the game while folk round about me, and me, shout our own ideas on the game then off I go again.

Analysis is just one person's opinion.

I want to see the game. Everything else is a sideshow and I'd rather the club didn't waste money on giving us fancy montages of the last time we played St Mirren and Hamilton.
If it was up to me, the cameras would roll 5 minutes before kick-off, pan round the Rangers fans, focus on the teams coming out the tunnel, game starts with no commentary at all, all you would hear are the players shouting instructions (sweary words are welcome). At the final whistle we get an interview with a couple of players and SG. :)
 

ZanderK81

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Despite the trumpeting of it as a deal with BT Sport that is not, quite, the case. The deal is with production company Sunset & Vine - though it looks like they will be getting the likes of Sutton on co-comms. Much as we do with former players.:


Delighted Celtic have hailed the agreement that will see BT Sport's pundits star on their virtual season-ticket package.

Record Sport exclusively revealed the Premiership champions secured a deal with Sunset + Vine to provide punditry for the home league games when the game returns.

Our columnist and Celtic hero Chris Sutton is expected to be joined by the likes of Gordon Strachan and Michael Stewart as the Hoops aim to give their fans a full experience while they are unable to attend amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

The club statement read: “Clearly, current circumstances are totally outwith our control, and while getting our supporters back to Celtic Park is our absolute priority, until this is the case, through our season ticket, we aim to give our fans the best access we can to SPFL matches at Celtic Park.

“We will be making a significant investment in this project, partnering with one of the best production companies around and will deliver an experience, with top expertise and contributors, which will put our fans at the heart of the action from Celtic Park.

“We are joining forces with an organisation renowned for delivering high quality coverage and we look forward to making this available our season ticket holders.”

Former Hoops heroes Johan Mjallby and John Hartson are two other big names who could feature as Celtic go in search of history by securing 10 In A Row.

Sunset + Vine chief Grant Philips, added: "We are delighted to partner with Celtic Football Club and look forward to bringing our unrivalled production expertise to the live matchday programming.
Anyone know much about this Grant Philips background?
A Google search shows a lot of his online history been deleted including his LinkedIn.
Or need I ask.
 

OohAhHuistra

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Look I don’t know if you know the rules if you are a subcontractor and being paid from the main contractor means you work for them check hmrc I am an employer so I know the way you are saying makes me believe your an outsider why would it not be in our interest to leave bt and sky to support our team I am waiting on your reply
BT don’t have Scottish football and I’ve only read a few posts so far but you make zero sense
 

Thor

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BT sponsor the family stand at Parkhead or they very recently used to. Similar to Radio Clyde who also provide sponsorship to celtic. These companies will never criticise or report on the club fairly as it in turn causes their own brand to look bad. These are the facts and for that reason I’ll never pay for any BT product or listen to Clyde 1 or 2.
 

Recoba

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Going against the grain here a wee bit but I don't care really if Rangers just fire the game on with no build up and no analysis. I don't get it at home games anyway. I turn up, watch the game while folk round about me, and me, shout our own ideas on the game then off I go again.

Analysis is just one person's opinion.

I want to see the game. Everything else is a sideshow and I'd rather the club didn't waste money on giving us fancy montages of the last time we played St Mirren and Hamilton.
That is kind of how I feel, so long as there is a good picture first and foremost but it certainly would enhance the experience If we had good pundits on discussing the game pre and post match.

I do like Tom Miller but I agree if we want to move Rtv forward we should have a new main commentator, and not the guy who did the Ufa match and who sometimes steps in, and certainly not DJ and Heron, that was the worst commentary I ever heard during that Dubai friendly.
 

OohAhHuistra

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Do you feel the big man trying to wind up bears?!?!
These are the trolling posts that ignore the facts and try to make bears look bad.
Worse than a tarrier!
It’s a joke mate. You get up on the wrong side of the bed get a grip. Worse than a tarrier LOL.
 

dublinbluenose

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Why doesn’t Hugh Burns appear on RTV anymore? Always liked him as a player and commentator.
Hugh burns was awful and we have a lot better co commentators in Andy little and Stephen Smith and Tom’s commentary has improved because of having better co commentators beside him
 

Govanfrnt-f

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just seen on twitter celtic have struck deal with bt sports team to do their streams .we all knew they were impartial,
Think they're only asking for a couple of the BT pundits. Would imagine stewart sutton and a presenter. Any which way to keep their placemen on board
 

kingstonbear

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It would be very nice if we were to do something similar to the Castore deal and break the mould. Amazon or such like would be great, with a whole new team. I'm not against guys like McCoist, McCann etc being analysts etc but a new host.
 

Valley Bluenose

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Our Club currently runs at a substantial loss every season. We are about to lose, probably, in excess of £10m in expected income next season through a lack of crowds at Europa League matches in particular, plus routine domestic matches, a reduction in advertising and hospitality revenue etc etc. Yes, we will have some savings in matchday costs to offset that - but we will also have additional costs from testing and associated stuff,

RangersTV live matches probably attract under 10,000 official viewers on a normal Ibrox matchday. We are about to give it free to an additional 46,000. As yet there’s no indication that we will be able to generate extra income from it.

I‘m struggling to see that now is the right time to invest substantial additional sums, over and above what’s already planned with the switch to StreamAMG, to get some extra talking heads in and extend the ‘show’, assuming that will also incur additional bandwidth costs. It would certainly give the presentation a slicker, more professional look - but, in truth, how many actually bother with the preamble and post-match stuff anyway unless we’ve just humped the Dhims?

The time to do it is when we can see a benefit from additional income. If - and we don’t know yet - we are allowed to sell season tickets or pay-per-match to UK viewers over and above the 46k then it might be worth it. Bear in mind though that when fans are allowed back - next Summer? - all those extra subscribers and additional income will disappear but the additional costs would remain.
 

km_2083

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Prob some deal in it so they don’t ask league for their £4m to make sure scum keep their tainted 8.7 in a row
 
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