Can we finally all agree?

[Clements11]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

 

[Davieblue1977]

I agree

 

[kclarkhall]

They’ve been stinking the place out for years.

A lot of bears called it out a long time ago. They are losers.

 

[Damask_Rose]

They’ve given us some great moments, but we need to now move on and refresh the nucleus of the squad.

 

[Ballymena]

We've been agreeing this for couple seasons. Not one manager ripped it up.

Hopefully Clement is the first to realise this.

 

[RFC_LOYAL]

Tavernier, Goldson and Lundstram, the “leaders” are the single biggest problem at the football club and have been for years.

 

[HongKong55]

All day long but still some will argue that they aren’t the problem. I’ve given up arguing with anyone still sticking up for them. There’s just no point.

 

[W_72]

Yes they need to go. I’ve defended both for far too long. They are both serial losers and bottlers.

 

[sofakineazy]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

I agree. Drop them now.

 

[GSRFC]

There will be people along soon asking how we replace Tavs goals, completely missing the point that relying on your right back scoring 20 goals a season is fundamental to our problems in the 1st place.

 

[gm_06]

Yes totally

 

[weefree]

Tavernier, Goldson and Lundstram, the “leaders” are the single biggest problem at the football club and have been for years.

The three highest earners. Lundstram may be OOC in the summer, but no way we are managing to offload Goldson or Tavernier

 

[CapitalBear1973]

We've been agreeing this for couple seasons. Not one manager ripped it up.

Hopefully Clement is the first to realise this.

If he doesn't then he will be the one to go.

 

[brain]

Yet another thread saying the same as the others. Simplistic nonsense.

 

[A Class Above]

If they two line up on the first day of the season then we are aswell packing it in.

 

[Wilso54]

Goldson and Lundstrum I hate with every ounce of strength in my body. I can't believe we gave a guy nobody else wanted an improved deal. And I have this weird feeling that Lundstrum has already signed a new deal and the club knows that announcing it now is stupid. Tav, tonight I'm done with him and I can't even defend him with my blind faith.

 

[RFC56]

They will most likely leave but tonight’s game is on yet another shite midfield and attack performance that we have seen far to often this season.

 

[Topps]

They do need replaced. The problem is in the past few seasons, the players we have brought in to refresh the team have been utterly abysmal and we have spent a fortune on it. Our recruitment has been shameful anf has set us back years.

 

[Dynamo_Queef]

So why wait until the end of the Season?

 

[RJ RFC X2]

Yes this has to be the last season we have to suffer them shiting the bed!

If Clement continues with them next season then he deserves what will eventually come and that’ll be the sack.

 

[Morpheus]

Not one manager has had the balls to bin them.

Not one manager has survived more than a year.

On the 19th of may the board need to say enough is enough.

 

[C-Train_Loyal]

Agree

 

[GazTheRangersMan]

Same questions continually raised of the same players…

 

[SDF]

For everybody's sake, this needs done.

 

[Partickger]

It’s impossible to argue against it now, we’ve seen it way too many times.

 

[archieg78]

Agree

 

[Kirbys House]

No argument here.

 

[90sbear]

Agree, that's football, sometimes your only as good as your weakest link, big decisions require big cahoonas, hopefully big Phill has them. It happens, (look at ManU with Mcguire) drop them, move on, it can't be worse,

 

[prenzlauerbear]

For everybody's sake, this needs done.

Their relationship with the support is beyond fractured at this point.

There isn't going to be happy ending where we get to see Tav and Goldson with a league title above their head. The decline started months ago and is only going to get steeper herein. It's done.

Clement talks about the importance of building a relationship between players and fans. There is no chance of cultivating that if he keeps making allowances for this "leadership group".

 

[ForeverBlue1972]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

100% being saying it on here for months kept getting shot down but imo both are terrible defenders did give tav little more leeway as he contributed what had me gokdson contributed in past 2 seasons SFA that’s what

 

[FDB1978]

I honestly wish we could pin all of our issues on just these two players and that would be it but the club is a shambles in every department.

The yahoos having a serious downturn in form just papered over the problems for most of the season.

 

[scooter70]

Yet another thread saying the same as the others. Simplistic nonsense.

It’s the biggest issue we have, no surprised there’s numerous threads

Until the charade is ended nothing will ever change

 

[GazzaLegend]

Lots of us have been saying it for 3 years now, mostly, we were ridiculed by the majority. Welcome to the party for those who have finally woken up.

 

[DD1872]

They cannot be here next season.

 

[Kingging]

Tav has been a great servant but for every time he dug us out of a hole there's been another where he cost us a goal or even points.

Time to move on. As well as a more solid right back, we need someone who understands what we mean by battle fever on too.

 

[JD1872]

They have an inferiority complex and it is never going to change.

This team needs dismantled in the summer

 

[DezzaS]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

We had a clean sheet tonight so not sure why theres an immediate focus on Tav and Goldson.

Defenders will make mistakes but its our inability to score goals that has fucked us this season.

 

[Alex Hunter]

Does feel like tonight is when it’s clicked.

It’s the first I’ve said I’d get rid of all 3 of Tav/Goldson/Lundstram (and plenty more).

Complete refresh needed.

 

[The Consortium]

Not only are some people disagreeing with the OP, they are actually suggesting these guys should be given more time. Bonkers.

 

[Awaydays72]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

100%. It’s so obvious to see.

 

[Orange Peel]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

There's still folk defending them on here.
Absolutely embarrassing and clueless.

 

[gu_bear]

There will be people along soon asking how we replace Tavs goals, completely missing the point that relying on your right back scoring 20 goals a season is fundamental to our problems in the 1st place.

Agree.

As an example, if you can’t find a striker you’d trust to hit penalties you haven’t found a striker I’d argue. Which has been a big problem for years now.

 

[Boro_gers07]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a a fan of the other lot.....

 

[JW1988]

There will be people along soon asking how we replace Tavs goals, completely missing the point that relying on your right back scoring 20 goals a season is fundamental to our problems in the 1st place.

It’s not missing a point. The issue of others not being match winners for Rangers isn’t at the feet of Tavernier. It’s at the feet of the managers/DOF’s and those who’ve put those idiots in charge of our limited funds.

 

[possilbear2]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

Well I agree with you 100^

 

[Awaydays72]

Not only are some people disagreeing with the OP, they are actually suggesting these guys should be given more time. Bonkers.

These are the people, that think Tav will “learn” from it.

 

[TheRobotman]

What worries me is that it’s beginning to look like they’re spreading the losing bug to the newer guys too, Lawrence, Cantwell, Butland and even Sterling did not look up for it tonight.

I

 

[Jelle1880]

There will be people along soon asking how we replace Tavs goals, completely missing the point that relying on your right back scoring 20 goals a season is fundamental to our problems in the 1st place.

I would give everything to replace his goals with a RB who can defend.

 

[Mr Wilton]

That until we get rid of Goldson, Tav etc. Then things will never change. I know about all the others but for a few seasons now thought until they go, then it will be impossible for the mentality to change.

Yes and if Clement does not get rid of them and more we will be here at some point next season discussing who’s replacing him!

 

[DBallZ]

Another year of forcing us to watch Kyogo and the like dancing about at our expense should see this lot out the door.

The summer after winning the league was our big change to reset but we’ve steadily gone backwards since and here we are now, down a very deep hole.