Yes let’s hope for a really successful tournament for Iran. Salt of the Earth folk who have created such a peaceful society for all their citizens to live in.
Boils my piss when I hear commentators / pundits say 'yes, there was definitely contact' to justify a free kick / penalty being awarded. As if the merest touch is enough to send a player hurtling into midair. What happened to it being a contact sport? These players who go down as soon as they feel any kind of contact should be getting called out, not having their actions justified.I remember Gary Neville talking about when he was a youth player at United and they played a foreign side and that team were diving and hounding the ref while the United players were trying to play the game. United lost and he said it was a lesson learnt and for the English clubs to compete with the Europeans they would have to adapt their game.
You'll always hear foreign coaches and players moan about British teams being over physical, they'll see that as we see their diving and rolling around, for me the refs should have clamped down on it 20 years ago but now we have situations where a player is touched by an opponents finger, falls down and rolls around the ground and everyone, British TV pundits included, will tell you its a foul.
Of course it was mate.Think it's pretty obvious he means football culture ffs.
Winners find a way no matter what it takes
Losers cry on the sidelines that 'it's not fair'
The irony is the virtue signalling mostly comes from British pundits - "look at us we never resort to dark arts". LOL. I imagine they'll keep quiet if Harry Kane 'cleverly' dives his way to a decisive penalty.
There’s a very good chance Germany could go out today .I hope Iran pump the yanks, then beat Germany in the knockouts.
Get it right up the hypocrites.
Did he mention “brown athletes”?
I’m aware of the history and no, it wasn’t.The 'society' you speak of, was infact created by the USA and UK over oil drilling rights. (know your history).
Don't know! What's your real name? ........The 'society' you speak of, was infact created by the USA and UK over oil drilling rights. (know your history). The leaders of the west are good at forgetting about that.
Equating the national football team to the Ayatollah isn't exactly fair either, But my desire for Iran to pump the USA etc. Was more to do with the hypocrasy of inclusivity and tolerance preached throughout the tournament by pundits, broadcasters and fans daily, until it's something they don't agree with or if they refuse to conform to certain ideals or the 'message'. Then it appears, certain nations (specifically the arab ones) should be ostrasized and are fair game for a good old bigoted pile on.
If I was a neutral looking on I'd call it racism, but who am I to judge.
You want guys representing a medieval society to beat the nation that’s stood as a beacon of freedom (no matter how flawed it’s become)?The 'society' you speak of, was infact created by the USA and UK over oil drilling rights. (know your history). The leaders of the west are good at forgetting about that.
Equating the national football team to the Ayatollah isn't exactly fair either, But my desire for Iran to pump the USA etc. Was more to do with the hypocrasy of inclusivity and tolerance preached throughout the tournament by pundits, broadcasters and fans daily, until it's something they don't agree with or if they refuse to conform to certain ideals or the 'message'. Then it appears, certain nations (specifically the arab ones) should be ostrasized and are fair game for a good old bigoted pile on.
If I was a neutral looking on I'd call it racism, but who am I to judge.
Aye before the US and UK got involved in the Middle East it was a Utopia of peace and tranquility.The 'society' you speak of, was infact created by the USA and UK over oil drilling rights. (know your history). The leaders of the west are good at forgetting about that.
Equating the national football team to the Ayatollah isn't exactly fair either, But my desire for Iran to pump the USA etc. Was more to do with the hypocrasy of inclusivity and tolerance preached throughout the tournament by pundits, broadcasters and fans daily, until it's something they don't agree with or if they refuse to conform to certain ideals or the 'message'. Then it appears, certain nations (specifically the arab ones) should be ostrasized and are fair game for a good old bigoted pile on.
If I was a neutral looking on I'd call it racism, but who am I to judge.
He was talking an absolute load of nonsense. It felt like he was trying to suck up to the Welsh pundits next to him.'It is not by coincidence, it is part of their culture, how they play. They worked the referee. They work the linesman and fourth official, they are constantly in their ear. There were a lot of incidents we didn't see,' said the former USA manager.
'This is their culture, they take you off your game.'
'It would have been different with a different referee. They have five people around the referee. This did not play into the hands of Wales.'
Thats his quotes. Amongst calling Queiroz himself a failure who basically needed to resort to effectively cheating
What is his odds on being the next manager?Big Jurgen is a Protestant and refused to shake the Pope's hand when the club he was at had an audience with him.
It was at Italia 90. German national team granted an audience with the paedophile harbouring bigot.Big Jurgen is a Protestant and refused to shake the Pope's hand when the club he was at had an audience with him.
Yeah just telling it like it is mate. Jurgen Klinsmann (!) the voice of of reason on play acting, sure. A German racial stereptyping half of the world. Sound.
Really,I didn’t know half the world were Iranian !!!Yeah just telling it like it is mate. Jurgen Klinsmann (!) the voice of of reason on play acting, sure. A German racial stereptyping half of the world. Sound.
Did he mention “brown athletes”?
If someone mentioned diving, rolling around and constantly fouling was part of the South American football culture nobody would argue about that.
As soon as you mention it about the wrong culture it’s offensive and racist.
Italians pretty much pioneered the dark arts in European football although it’s a close run thing.Nah i agree. But i also dont think its unique to the Middle East. Loads of teams do it.
Spanish and Italian teams have done it for as long as i can remember. Definitely needs stamped out though
Gabby’s father is Welsh.Gabby going a bit Alan Partridge.
"The linesman is from Wales as well, well he has a Welsh name"
Caleb Wales.
The clip I saw Quieroz was asking why Southgate and the US coach weren't being questioned on the rapid departure of US and British forces from Afghanistan. The resulting humanitarian crisis there will probably cause more deaths than have occurred in Iran, so he's got a valid point.I saw something the other day where Quieroz was questioning why Gareth Southgate isn’t inundated with questions about the political situation in the UK like he keeps getting asked about the same in Iran.
Maybe, just maybe, it’s because we aren’t in the process of executing 15,000 protesters Carlos.
Why football should never have got into politics. Where will it all end?The clip I saw Quieroz was asking why Southgate and the US coach weren't being questioned on the rapid departure of US and British forces from Afghanistan. The resulting humanitarian crisis there will probably cause more deaths than have occurred in Iran, so he's got a valid point.
Exactly.Why football should never have got into politics. Where will it all end?
Is he no deid?Iran should bring back The Shah.
I sometimes feel like we're the opposite in Britain so I appreciate what he's driving at. I can't remember from our last few games against German sides or Scotland playing Germany if they seem like they're also miles ahead of us when it comes to gamesmanship.
Also I don't think now is the time for Iran or Iranians to be defending their culture more than most others. If they could redirect their anger at their own people who are killing their own children, that'd probably be more suitable.
Like Klinsmann wasn't one of the biggest cheats of all time?'It is not by coincidence, it is part of their culture, how they play. They worked the referee. They work the linesman and fourth official, they are constantly in their ear. There were a lot of incidents we didn't see,' said the former USA manager.
'This is their culture, they take you off your game.'
'It would have been different with a different referee. They have five people around the referee. This did not play into the hands of Wales.'
Thats his quotes. Amongst calling Queiroz himself a failure who basically needed to resort to effectively cheating
Correct.Literally anyone who has ever watched international football knows that Klinsmann is correct.
Franny Lee was at it years before that.First dive I ever saw was the 1974 World Cup final when the German dived to con the English referee into giving him a penalty and Germany went on to lift the World Cup.
Why Staunch Protestant? Nothing what he said was being Staunch. Is it something from the past, that's why you know he's a Staunch Protestant?
I think he’s just under extraordinary pressure. He’s a foreigner leading players through a turbulent time in their countries history. He’s been asked things that aren’t fair and you just know the press are waiting to pounce on a wrong word from any of the Iran camp. I can understand him being abrupt with reporters and although I do think he’s taking too much to heart he does have a point when it comes to other countries not being asked similar political questions.Old Carlos has been acting like a twat all tournament. Hope the yanks smash them.
I think the thread title has been changed, certain it’s not the original title. He refused to meet the Pope on the 90s while playing for Inter. Graham Spiers also said that Rangers fans sung “Klinsmans a Klansman” after it.Why Staunch Protestant? Nothing what he said was being Staunch. Is it something from the past, that's why you know he's a Staunch Protestant?
Let me tell you a couple of three thingsTwenty fuckin years
Surely you mean the Sash ?Iran should bring back The Shah.
Yes.Why Staunch Protestant? Nothing what he said was being Staunch. Is it something from the past, that's why you know he's a Staunch Protestant?