Match Thread Celtic v Rangers - 12:30 Saturday - Sky Sports

[mr magoo loyal]

It would be showing he’s learned nothing from the last two games.

It is also indicating he cant find solutions and had reverted to “safe” but flawed selections. His ability to tweak things to a positive effect was one of the initial things about him that so impressed.

So it’s a worry on both counts.

If we had a fully fit squad then there is no way that would be his starting line up.

It's a worry because we know certain players will likely choke, but I also think unlike other managers who would gamble on the fitness of players, PC won't and he is more concerned about the longer term availability of a player.

Players he can do nothing about, but formation?

 

[DylanGer]

If that is the team it won't be that much of a surprise-Ridvan has been out for ages and Cantwell is invaraiably ineffective against them.

Lawrence for me is the major risk

 

[rayrangers]

If we had a fully fit squad then there is no way that would be his starting line up.

It's a worry because we know certain players will likely choke, but I also think unlike other managers who would gamble on the fitness of players, PC won't and he is more concerned about the longer term availability of a player.

Players he can do nothing about, but formation?

This is an all or nothing game so players should be risked

 

[DylanGer]

If we had a fully fit squad then there is no way that would be his starting line up.

It's a worry because we know certain players will likely choke, but I also think unlike other managers who would gamble on the fitness of players, PC won't and he is more concerned about the longer term availability of a player.

Players he can do nothing about, but formation?

We haven't seen the formation yet

 

[kirkiebluenose]

If that’s the team we have to have serious concerns about the manager

 

[ShieldsBlue]

The game will pass Lawrence by. If we were packing the midfield then Raskin is a better shout for energy.

 

[bluetonic]

This is an all or nothing game so players should be risked

Absolutely there is no fall back position here

 

[ForGodForCountryForever]

Fun is for clowns. This is war.

 

[Alfie shhh!]

If that’s the team we have to have serious concerns about the manager

We should probably let him build his own squad before judging him. He's been crippled by our poor previous transfers/injuries.

 

[kevinthomson]

It’s justified and we are all left hoping the alleged team is wrong

100% justified. He’s making the same mistakes as those that went before him.

 

[Galstonian Oranje]

We should probably let him build his own squad before judging him. He's been crippled by our poor previous transfers.

Yes, but beating Dundee and Ross County when leading a title race should be a non negotiable

 

[DylanGer]

Laughable criticism before a ball is kicked and the formation seen.

What are the alternatives?

 

[kevinthomson]

We should probably let him build his own squad before judging him. He's been crippled by our poor previous transfers/injuries.

Heard this same chat about Beale.

 

[midlandbear]

im talking more about the players that are fit and will start and the positions he plays them in. Sterling wide right for example. Borna as LB when Ridvan was fit enough for game time last week then he should be starting.

See there is the issue. Someone assuming that a player making a short appearance is fit for a full game “1 week later, shows the general lack of understanding how the professional game works.

Let me ask you this. Do you think the same guy who took us to a title race having inherited a written off team of nobody’s, feels like a fully fit Yilmaz wouldn’t be a bette option than Barisic?
The same Barisic he has had as THIRD choice left back for a few months behind Yilmaz and Sterling?

 

[ChernoSamba]

We don’t have many viable options to be fair.

We’ve got better options than that team.

 

[Jelle1880]

Heard this same chat about Beale.

Surely it's not a wild idea that a manager should be given the chance to build his own team ?

 

[Stuart_WATP]

If that’s the team we have to have serious concerns about the manager

Elaborate on this? We've players not fully fit, and the one constant thing PC has went on about is how bad our injuries are. He's not gonna rush players back in and risk further injury, surely that is evident by now?

Lundstram should be dropped as well as Silva, and I'd never play Barisic at snake mountain again, but let's be real what would the alternative to them be?

 

[DylanGer]

We’ve got better options than that team.

Who?

 

[Alfie shhh!]

Heard this same chat about Beale.

Difference is Clement is a known winner. A multiple title winning Champion.

 

[TukTuk to Bangla]

Heard this same chat about Beale.

Dear oh dear.

 

[CooperBlu11]

Seeing that team makes this game even more depressing.

 

[Dashboard Jesus]

100% justified. He’s making the same mistakes as those that went before him.

He inherited a team in disarray and got them into a title race. Unfortunately the same players who have seen off two other managers reverted to type.

He has had a horrendous injury list to contend with as well. It's remarkable that he has us as close as we are.

 

[BlancaBear]

Heard this same chat about Beale.

It was true then as well.

 

[Fergie90]

We should probably let him build his own squad before judging him. He's been crippled by our poor previous transfers/injuries.

Why?

He has only won us the league cup, got us into the final of the Scottish cup and a win today away from being level on points and going for a treble.

He doesn't deserve time for that piss poor effort.

 

[JW1988]

Heard this same chat about Beale.

And van Bronckhorst
And Caixinha

Not that I’m comparing Clement to them, just saying it’s like groundhog day with managers taking Gerrard out of the equation

 

[artificialintoleranz]

If that’s the team we have to have serious concerns about the manager

I can't fathom this thinking out at all.

He has been cobbling a starting 11 together for a half season, he has worked miracles. Unfortunately, the players have fallen short. In some cases again, in others they are simply exhausted.

It is shite, yes. It isn't however on the manager.

 

[DylanGer]

Seeing that team makes this game even more depressing.

Don't watch it then....

 

[julian candy]

Elaborate on this? We've players not fully fit, and the one constant thing PC has went on about is how bad our injuries are. He's not gonna rush players back in and risk further injury, surely that is evident by now?

Lundstram should be dropped as well as Silva, and I'd never play Barisic at snake mountain again, but let's be real what would the alternative to them be?

That poster is best ignored

 

[Kirkhillbear]

Tav Souttar Davies Borna
Diomande Lundstram Lawrence
Sterling Dessers Silva

Allegedly

If so, that midfield gives me the fear as there’s very little energy in there

If that's the starting lineup we're fucked.
Plain and simple.

 

[kevinthomson]

Surely it's not a wild idea that a manager should be given the chance to build his own team ?

It’s not entirely, I’m merely pointing out that the pattern that’s been repeated with the last two managers previous to Clement is back.

 

[Andythebear1972]

People are frothing at the mouth about the lineup and some claiming Clement doesn’t “get it” whatever that means.

We are down to the bare bones, it’s not like he has a myriad of quality at his disposal ffs.

 

[Scenester87]

People are frothing at the mouth about the lineup and some claiming Clement doesn’t “get it” whatever that means.

We are down to the bare bones, it’s not like he has a myriad of quality at his disposal ffs.

If Ridvan and Cantwell are both benched while fit then major doubts are starting to creep in with him.

 

[Jelle1880]

It’s not entirely, I’m merely pointing out that the pattern that’s been repeated with the last two managers previous to Clement is back.

But it's not a pattern imo. You want a manager to build his own team. With Gerrard it took a few years to get it right too.

Beale was given that chance and he fucked us for the rest of the season, Clement however has proven he can build teams to win stuff. If we get rid of Clement then the next one will have to do the same.

 

[TriggersBroom]

sterling should be in the middle of the park. Everyone can see it

 

[Unicorn]

Celtic are my least favourite team.

 

[LyonGer]

Great to see positivity on this thread.
From the first minute until the last whistle I will believe.

 

[LyonGer]

Bizarre no team official yet, nothing on theirs either. Must be the latest it’s been posted

It's normally 1 hour before so 1130.

 

[Macdonsj]

If Ridvan and Cantwell are both benched while fit then major doubts are starting to creep in with him.

Ridvan has played 10 mins for the first time in months, in a game that was won
if hes fit, its not fully fit

 

[Scenester87]

Ridvan has played 10 mins for the first time in months, in a game that was won
if hes fit, its not fully fit

A half fit Ridvan needs to start in place of Barasic. He's a shitebag.

 

[Maxiglw]

Let's be honest here there is not ONE player in our entire squad that is a key player !

The mediocre level that has been built up by every manager since our return to the Premier is criminal.

Not one player being in or out if our starting 11 will effect the game, that is the saddest fact about today

Fear the worst, hope for the best

 

[StepoverKing]

I can't fathom this thinking out at all.

He has been cobbling a starting 11 together for a half season, he has worked miracles. Unfortunately, the players have fallen short. In some cases again, in others they are simply exhausted.

It is shite, yes. It isn't however on the manager.

To a point, however think about how often under clement we have made multiple changes at half time or early second half because the starting team is wrong with the players at his disposal. That’s a concern.

 

[Cooper's left peg]

Lawrence in midfield would be fucking madness.

 

[bullen an la]

Surely it's not a wild idea that a manager should be given the chance to build his own team ?

Not on FF it's not

 

[Pongobear]

Let's be honest here there is not ONE player in our entire squad that is a key player !

The mediocre level that has been built up by every manager since our return to the Premier is criminal.

Not one player being in or out if our starting 11 will effect the game, that is the saddest fact about today

Fear the worst, hope for the best

Butland clearly can affect the game. So can Tav offensively is a good way and defensively not

 

[DylanGer]

If Ridvan and Cantwell are both benched while fit then major doubts are starting to creep in with him.

Ridvan isn't fit , can't be anywhere near it. People have also forgotten his form the last 3 or so games before his injury-he wasn't playing well at all. He's not been trusted by the previous 2 managers either-in broad terms he's a myth.

Cantwell -we can debate till the cows come home-he hasn't been great recently indeed a long time with the exception of the Hearts game where Hearts played into our hands-it's not Hearts we are playing today but I will say IF Lawerence doesn't kick his arse then the debate about Cantwell will rage on......

 

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

He inherited a team in disarray and got them into a title race. Unfortunately the same players who have seen off two other managers reverted to type.

He has had a horrendous injury list to contend with as well. It's remarkable that he has us as close as we are.

GvB’s turgid football got him sacked, he actually could have done with Goldson being fit to save his job rather than having to play King, Sands and Davies at CB.

Beale’s terrible signings and crazy narrow formation got him sacked, no one else.

Would you like either of them back?

 

[GR3RFC]

Laughable criticism before a ball is kicked and the formation seen.

What are the alternatives?

For me Sterling had to come back into central midfield for this.

I can see the dilemma the manager has with providing Tav with some cover in the wide areas which Sterling is probably better suited to than McAusland or Wright but we are sacrificing a strong physical presence in the middle of the park for Lawrence who is, to put it charitably, not that.

That's where they are strongest and we are conceding ground before we even kick a ball imo.

 

[Ünnëcëssärÿ Ümläüts]

Great to see positively on this thread.
From the first minute until the last whistle I will believe.

I’m surprised at the reaction to the supposed team. If, and that’s IF, that’s the line up. Are we really that surprised? Ridvan is likely still not fully fit, so the only option is Borna.

Raskin hasn’t been any where near the team so why would he be brought in today? Lawrence wouldn’t be my first choice but I can see the logic in keeping Cantwell to come on when they have tired a bit. Same with Matondo.

The manager really doesn’t have much to play with.

 

[inigo]

Laughable criticism before a ball is kicked and the formation seen.

What are the alternatives?

Sterling in midfield , Lawrence on the bench for whoever.

 

[bullen an la]

Just cannot be arsed watching Borna at parkhead again.

Don't watch then