Match Thread Celtic v Rangers - 12:30 Saturday - Sky Sports

[Hurlfordbear]

Clueless. Clement not you.

How would you change our team? He’s has most of our better players out injured, when we had everyone fit and playing the way he wants, we played every team in this league off the park, we have yet to play Celtic with a full starting 11, without an injury to one of our better players.

Btw this is celtics strongest 11 and we are no worse than them.

As much as this season has been up and down, a lot of being still in this league up to this point is down to the clueless man you mention.

 

[ScrabsterLoyal]

Hard to filter myself when talking about how much of a fucking disgrace Lundstram was in that first half.


Jogging about the pitch the entire time, letting his man have the ball with all sorts of time and space around the box and the only time he gets out of that jog is to put in a bad tackle that gets him sent off. He can f off to Turkey tomorrow.

I would make him take a taxi while we slog out this 2nd half - %^*& him

 

[EKblue]

He was so quick to get it out, he needed VAR to correct it

He's came horsing in from 15 yards away, caught him studs up into the ankle and above

IFAB could put that video into the laws of the game as the defintion of Serious Foul Play...

The most red card of red cards

 

[King Albertz]

You can talk about the players all you want, but the fact is we don't have a system or a style of play. And that's on the manager.

We have, we've played in behind their full backs and had decent success

 

[skorn]

We're a fecking mess today.

Their first goal was well-taken. As the commentators said we simply gave them too many chances and they scored from that one. I still think both Davies (who has otherwise defended fairly well) and Borna should have been closing him down as soon as the ball heads towards him.
Symptomatic of our defence though, which goes by the motto of "I'll just stand off here and see what happens."

tbf the Lundstram own goal could have happened to anyone, but it was prett poor.
His red card tackle was incredibly foolish though.

imo our best work against them has been with Borna and Silva (who has at least tried to put himself about).

I also find it amazing that when we scored our goal against them, we did it by running forwards and passing forwards -- something that we will doubtless now not even try and repeat for the rest of the game.

Changes to be made ?
I wonder if Sterling should drop back for Diomande (who looks as if he's about to be booked at any second now) and bring on a speed merchant like Matondo (gawd forgive me).

Cantwell could also come on for Lawrence any time soon.
Quite a lot of our players either unfit or just not trying to get back into position when CFC break forward.

 

[Buccaneers Bear]

And every manager keeps playing them it’s absolutely horrendous management we can all see the frailties but managers cannot see what we see

It's what he has been left with, if the manager decides to extend some of their contracts then yes then that will be on him,. As of now he doesn't have his own squad and he can only work with what he has.

 

[scottishcampbell]

Surprised Silva is getting as much grief. Thought he's been one of our better payers.

Silva our best player 1at half

 

[Thornliebank_Bear]

So crazy to dive in like that when we had just scored, why do so many on our side think we will get away with the kind of tackle or the same stuff they do in these fixtures ? so so naive.

Steven McLean is on VAR ffs he would send you off for bumping into one of them at a corner.

 

[TheOnlyTeamForMe]

Hope I never see lundstram ever again.

 

[JDC76]

3 years on the trot of abysmal signings.

And failure to get rid of passengers

 

[barrowman]

No coz knowing our management they’d be stupid enough to offer him a deal.

He’s one of Clement’s favs by all accounts.

 

[Mview83]

That’s Anton Rogan levels from Lundstram

 

[Clay Davis]

Surprised Silva is getting as much grief. Thought he's been one of our better payers.

Him and Butland are about the only 2 you could say have been ok

 

[ndr429j]

Both Celtic goal come from full backs not making a tackle on the ball far too easy

 

[HillsBill]

I’ll stick up for the gaffer here. He can only piss with the cock he’s got.

He’s inherited this bunch, and with injuries he’s limited in the 11 he picks that he thinks he can win the game.
Sadly a few of them are serial losers, and I know, you know, we know that.

We need to rebuild and not just try and fix the issue with journeyman panic buys.

Agree but would dispute it's only a few serial losers. It's probably 6 or 7. And the bench is pretty much the same.

 

[devilman]

Listen, loads of times a player is sent off in a big game the ref will even it up with any suspicious tackle from the other team. You don't know how the second half will play out. Their defense is shit we just need to run at them, plus look how the last game went against them so just don't give up so easily.

Their defense is shit and our entire team is pretty much shit, with the exception of the goalie. Added to the fact we've got a manager that sees an entirely different game to the real world.

I admire your spirit but these useless players just want off that park and home to their big houses.

 

[butchir]

2-1 down and a man short with a long 45 mins to go.

It's now damage limitation.

2-1 down anything was possible, 45 mins of 10v11 is going to be tough especially in that ground. They will have even more space to move it around us.

 

[HarryBosch]

Only because Collin is referee and McLean is on VAR
Any other football game, in any other league, involving any other side and there's no mention of lunacy or red cards

Head in the sand stuff mate. Its a stonewall red card.

 

[captcaveman]

No VAR there, obviously. Let’s remember that on first viewing today, he gave a yellow.

Digging this up is silly. I hate Collum as much as the next guy but he’s not the one to blame for today.

It was a Red card but ,the question does need to be asked that if if was Johnston on JL, would Collum have been brave enough to give a red card against a Celtic player at home? I'm not so sure he would have.

 

[GersFanHutch]

BTW, it'll get lost in all this but anyone who doesn't have concerns about how Phil sets up and approaches OF games is a better person than me.

This isn't a get him out or sack him or anything like that so we can park that but he's left us wide open in the middle of the park and outnumbered yet again.

What is he seeing that we're not ?

For all those who love stats that’s three straight OF games we’ve went 2 down under him.

We need a manager who can sort that out.

 

[RJ RFC X2]

Started his Rangers career with red card and finishes it with one

 

[TheRoofeIsOnFire]

Usual from the usual, grim.

 

[The Busby Bear]

If we still had 11 on the park I’d actually feel like we could take something from this. As it is, Lundstram has let the team down. Happily never see him in a Rangers shirt again.

 

[noucamp72]

Defend a 2-1 to our opponents?

I'm afraid that's where we are at.

This could get really embarrasing for us.
A third before the hour and we will crumble here.

 

[EK1422]

We routinely witness in Europe how completely ordinary this Celtic team are.

And yet, every time we play them we resort to hoof-ball because we don’t have the players to play any other way.

Beyond embarrassing.

 

[steve84]

Behave yourself. Do you honestly think he intended either of those actions today?

He certainly intended a pointless lunge 90 yards from Goal. A leader with no effort and no composure. And where and who was he tracking for the first.

 

[Wilbour]

They are utter mince, which makes it even worse, tbh.

We just have a psychological block playing them.

They'll get another when we haven't woken up just after break, and it'll be game over.

It happens again and again.

Yep. But if they are mince then we are the grey runny shite they put in farmfoods scotch pies.

 

[Barnster Bear]

Can also throw in his usual lazy jog at their first goal. Barisic wasn’t much better to be fair.

Hopefully the last time we see both. Ridvan back in time for the final, and play Sterling in midfield. The manager has to recognise this, and play Wright or McCausland on the right for at least a bit of balance.

 

[No Hiding Place]

Waken up and stop crying conspiracy mate

I'll say what I want.

 

[Clydebuilt_UK]

Don’t want to pile on Clement, but starting Lawrence over Cantwell was a stupid decision.

Agreed and its not the first time Lawrence goes missing in these games.

Worse than a man down and looks like he's running in treacle and unfit.

 

[Nawimnojurgen]

Tuesday I hope is packed out. We are saying goodbye to a team that won us 55 and a Euro final and 1 each of the cups. Not Rangers class as that first half showednbut we are still recovering from 2011.
I do trust Clement, these are not his players yet. So packed Ibrox Tuesday, we show our class and send them off to Hampden knowing we will be there.

 

[NHAMPTON_BEAR]

45 mins with 10 men - it’s going to be hard. Let’s see. They are not invincible.

 

[ecossebear]

He was so quick to get it out, he needed VAR to correct it

He's came horsing in from 15 yards away, caught him studs up into the ankle and above

IFAB could put that video into the laws of the game as the defintion of Serious Foul Play...

I can’t believe anyone could not think that was a red card! We all called it in the pub when he gave the yellow even before the replay. Shocking tackle and probably (should be) his last game for us! At fault (with others) for the opening goal, scores the second under no pressure then leaves us on 10 players. Worst old firm performance from any of our players I can ever remember. Sickening.

 

[Maxi1872]

Durys out for phil
Aye it's the same old from the same old but we could have told you that.
It was up to the manger to do somehting different he didn't.
We have all seen this movie before question is why the manger thought this team should play

 

[thomsonstackle]

No coincidence we’ve lost the majority of our old firm games since Lundstram signed.

He talks a great game in the build up and then massively lets us down time and time again.

How I long for the days of Jack, Davis and Kamara.

 

[MacGyver]

Lundstrum shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Rangers for the remainder for the season and he can get to %^*&

He’ll be banned now for the final games anyway I’d imagine?

 

[Texas ranger]

What a fucking coward John Lundstram is.

An absolutely spineless shitebag of a guy.

Genuinely hatred for this imposter now.

Now you can see why so many Sheffield United fans were glad to see the back of him. His return in his spell at Rangers has been awful.

 

[Dot.D]

Collum history… no red card.

Think the games changed in the last 15 years.

Var for a start!

We can argue that we see tackles like that against us in every game that we don't get. Yet they should be reds.

It's a red all day long and lundstram head has totally went in that first half

 

[AverillRFC]

I’m his strongest critic, absolutely no aggression when he should have scored a header early but he’s been alright going forward .

Missed a sitter yes, but he’s at least shown a willingness to get at them much like he did in the 2nd half at Ibrox

 

[Wee buds swagger]

The midfield selection on our manager no mobility, Lawrence strolling about when they are in possession, the first goal could have happened on 2-3 times before it was just a matter of time. Sterling should have played in the middle

 

[Shropshire_Bear]

Our full backs are useless. Both at fault for the goals. Midfield is non-existent.

 

[TriggersBroom]

Lawrence blowing out his arse after 25 minutes too

Seems any normal punter could have predicted that except the manager

Manager deserves credit for getting us back into the race but this past month he’s fair racking up the red flags

 

[macaloon9]

Hmmm weird your anger is at Lundstram and not the referee here

Why? It was a mental tackle in that area of the pitch. If he wins the ball he is battering out for a throw. Utterly senseless.

 

[Sticky]

Don’t want to pile on Clement, but starting Lawrence over Cantwell was a stupid decision.

Cantwell falters and does he haw.

 

[CaptainCourageous]

You are blaming the wrong person.

Team selection wrong, again.

 

[Cooper's left peg]

Serious questions need asked now, he simply doesnt learn.

A poor start to next season or no improvements in performances then he wont last long.

I still dont know what our style of play is?

He has ONE window to get it right.

 

[Normandy]

About time we had one of ours showing a bit of an emotion (whether he’s right or wrong).

He’s angry and reacting like I would be.

I’ll take this every day of the week over shite like McCoist kissing Fat Ange’s arse after losing cup finals to him.

Ah so blindly defending the indefensible is fine as long as you’re really passionate about it?

 

[EOS]

Very worrying Clement hasn't addressed the midfield issue. What are we actually trying to do differently given previous results against them?

 

[Damask_Rose]

We're a fecking mess today.

Their first goal was well-taken. As the commentators said we simply gave them too many chances and they scored from that one. I still think both Davies (who has otherwise defended fairly well) and Borna should have been closing him down as soon as the ball heads towards him.
Symptomatic of our defence though, which goes by the motto of "I'll just stand off here and see what happens."

tbf the Lundstram own goal could have happened to anyone, but it was prett poor.
His red card tackle was incredibly foolish though.

imo our best work against them has been with Borna and Silva (who has at least tried to put himself about).

I also find it amazing that when we scored our goal against them, we did it by running forwards and passing forwards -- something that we will doubtless now not even try and repeat for the rest of the game.

Changes to be made ?
I wonder if Sterling should drop back for Diomande (who looks as if he's about to be booked at any second now) and bring on a speed merchant like Matondo (gawd forgive me).

Cantwell could also come on for Lawrence any time soon.
Quite a lot of our players either unfit or just not trying to get back into position when CFC break forward.

Matando isn't on the bench, is he?

 

[King Albertz]

We're leaving the centre halves to try and mark the danger players, however the centre halfs are walking into our half with it, we need to go to ball and within 2 passes they are right at the edge of our box in space.

We could easily have conceded 4/5 again here

Exactly, shame we can't do the same