Fred-Bassey
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AgreedAnother brilliantly written statement from c1872. I have to agree with others that this could, and should, have come directly from the club.
AgreedAnother brilliantly written statement from c1872. I have to agree with others that this could, and should, have come directly from the club.
You noticed it.Another statement that will go unnoticed.
Access is likely to be covered by the contract between the SPFL & the broadcasters including the bbc as they have the radio & highlights rights.Are we obliged to allow BBC press access?
That’s what I have never understood. Who do they send the statements too ? The press,BBC? Never seem to see them anywhere other than on here or my email.Another statement that will go unnoticed.
Club 1872 has been in dialogue with Rangers for several weeks regarding Michael Stewart’s offensive and defamatory comments on Sportsound regarding Alfredo Morelos and Jim Traynor. Rangers were in agreement with us that Michael Stewart’s comments were completely unacceptable, and made strong representations to the BBC on that basis.
It was correct that the club engaged directly with BBC Scotland to make their position clear and attempt to resolve this issue. Rangers fans deserve to receive value for the licence fee which funds BBC Scotland’s activities. The decision to reinstate Mr Stewart, and the attempted justification for that reinstatement, makes it clear that under its current leadership BBC Scotland has no intention of ever properly discharging its duty to a significant section of licence fee payers in Scotland.
In an eight minute rant, Mr Stewart did his best to cast doubt on racist abuse of Alfredo Morelos. He then went on to describe the placement of PR stories, an issue he had completely fabricated, as being “more concerning” than racist abuse and “the main story”. This clear and disgraceful attempt to minimise racism should have been condemned by BBC Scotland but instead they have completely ignored it. His defamatory comments about Jim Traynor were not only false and inflammatory but in our opinion were a factor in the physical assault on him just days later. Quite simply, Michael Stewart should have been sacked on the spot. The contrast between how BBC Scotland dealt with this and how the BBC in England have dealt with similar issues is stark.
The assertion by BBC Scotland that they have now adequately resolved this issue by simply explaining Mr Stewart’s responsibilities to him is an insult to the intelligence. Mr Stewart was already well aware of his responsibilities having had several complaints lodged against him for similar behaviour - most notably when he denied that Rangers supporters were placed in a dangerous crushing situation at Rugby Park earlier this season despite clear evidence to the contrary. There is a pattern of behaviour with Michael Stewart on any Rangers related topic and his motivation is abundantly clear to anyone who pays attention.
BBC Scotland’s reputation, already damaged by their refusal to deal properly with their ongoing biased coverage of Rangers, now lies in tatters over this matter. It is decisions like this that have led to more and more questions being asked about the future of the licence fee. Rangers supporters are correct to mistrust BBC Scotland and it is clear that the organisation is deeply flawed at an institutional level. There is no accountability, no integrity and no responsibility - from senior management all the way down to Mr Stewart’s level.
Rangers are correct to withdraw from all dialogue and we believe that those discussions should not resume until the BBC is able to demonstrate with action, not words, that they have regained some control over BBC Sport Scotland.
Just words. Need to be complaining to the BBC in LondonAnother brilliantly written statement from c1872. I have to agree with others that this could, and should, have come directly from the club.
Plenty have and get fobbed off but should keep doing it.Just words. Need to be complaining to the BBC in London
Suggest we go on the offensive and ban them and make a song and dance about it so as to draw publicity from the rest of the U.K. everyone thinks we’ve banned them anyway so let’s do it big style.Access is likely to be covered by the contract between the SPFL & the broadcasters including the bbc as they have the radio & highlights rights.
We have not banned the bbc or anyone else. They have taken the decision not to cover us but one would ask have they breeched the contact by selecting not to cover us?
If so are we entitled to make alternative arrangements?
Truly baffling that any actual Bears felt the need to speak to the bbc.Doesn't help when our fans do this
Special mention for the guy in the mask who knows what he is doing is wrong.
BBC Scotland dont give a toss. There money is guaranteed by the licence fee so theres nothing we can do to hurt them. All we can hope for us a whistle blower who would out there ' celtic minded ' editorial and employment policies.
You noticed itAnother statement that will go unnoticed.
The BBC have broken their own charter by not reporting our club’s sporting activities therefore people are quite within their rights to withhold the license fee.
The problem with statements, no matter how good, accurate or professional they are, is who apart from Rangers fans pay any attention to them. This is a good statement but are we not taking this issue up with the BBC Board of Directors? Why has this issue been allowed to go on for so long without taking it higher? The time for statements is past.
That’s what I have never understood. Who do they send the statements too ? The press,BBC? Never seem to see them anywhere other than on here or my email.
Doesn't help when our fans do this
Special mention for the guy in the mask who knows what he is doing is wrong.
With the greatest respect, not many people outside our own fan-base really care what c1872 have to say.
There is absolutely no reason that a strongly worded statement like that could not have Stewart Robertson's signature on it.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I still don't understand the value of the club being one step removed from these statements.
Criticism of Stewart and the BBC is hardly a controversial issue.
OK T,C1872 statements are regularly covered in the press.
Do not pay your license fee bears, final straw time!
I'm not sure why people are so hard for a statement from a fan representative group when the statement will be read by an audience comprised of 99% bears.You noticed it.
There's several audiences for statements, SLB, one of those is ordinary bears like ourselves who appreciate the effort put into defending the club. It may not move mountains or even the slugs at the BBC but it makes me feel a wee bit better.
Don't decry it.
I said "It may not move mountains or even the slugs at the BBC but it makes me feel a wee bit better."I'm not sure why people are so hard for a statement from a fan representative group when the statement will be read by an audience comprised of 99% bears.
Are you expecting it to change anything? It hasnt in the past and it wont in the future.
Club needs to take tangible action. Bullshit statements about "walking away from negotiations " wont make the blind bit of difference.
Exactly. A statement by bears for bears. And my initial point was that it will go unnoticed and will make no difference to anything going on with the BBC whatsoever. Our fanbase is stiff for statements, absolutely bizarre when it's a zero sum game.I said "It may not move mountains or even the slugs at the BBC but it makes me feel a wee bit better."
You say "people are so hard for a statement"
No point in continuing this.
Sadly accurate.Another statement that will go unnoticed.
Spot on. If their access was revoked it would at least gain the interest of BBC Scotland's bosses down southAccess is likely to be covered by the contract between the SPFL & the broadcasters including the bbc as they have the radio & highlights rights.
We have not banned the bbc or anyone else. They have taken the decision not to cover us but one would ask have they not breeched the contact by selecting not to cover us?
If so are we entitled to make alternative arrangements?
Cancelled mine 3 months ago,they have been at the door twice and sent packing twice. Not a penny more from me.About a month ago now I made my complaint about how our club and fans are being treated unfairly by the BBC Scotland and stated I will be cancelling my direct debit, and up till now no response so yesterday I cancelled my direct debit so I urge fellow bears to do the same
They can come as often as they want mate, they will be sent packingCancelled mine 3 months ago,they have been at the door twice and sent packing twice. Not a penny more from me.
You wanna try living in NI and watching BBC Newsline (our 6.30pm news). The ‘compare and contrast’ of attitudes between reb and Unionist politicians being interviewed is unreal.Always amazes me how a company such as the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation could be infiltrated by the tim minded.