Official Compromise reached over Old firm ticketing - SPFL announcement

[Class of 72]

Neither do I, because our club statement indicated we had a desire to have more fans at Parkhead.

The most important issue is the team on the pitch, and I’m sure if you asked PC and the players would they prefer the backing of 47k at Ibrox and 3k at Parkhead, then they’d take it over zero away support.

Again, points being missed. There was only zero at parkhead because Celtic broke league rules with no punishment, nothing to do with Rangers or the team.

 

[PT98]

Rodgers is already making noises today about a return to ‘how it used to be’.

"The aim at Celtic was never to change it, so if we can get back to what it was before it was changed then that would be absolutely great news for everyone."

All I've seen from then over social media since yesterday is how they want the 'old allocation or nothing'. Why are they so desperate for this?

 

[Class of 72]

Well done the board for not caving into the full broomloan.

Your sick of the guys on our board aye?

So because we never gave the full broomy, at our stadium it’s a win? lol you on meths?

 

[TriggersBroom]

Perfect summary of the situation.
Let's hope our 'vocal and committed minority' enjoy their restricted view of the Parkhead pitch, whilst their supporters benefit from an unobstructed view of Ibrox.

Ask anyone that goes to away games and I bet most would tell you their South East corner was always our most boisterous away part of our allocation even though the view wasn’t directly behind the goals

If I had a lower ticket I’d generally always go into that corner with mates

 

[TriggersBroom]

No Tim’s at Ibrox
Stinking the place out with their vile republican songs , I really can’t believe any true Rangers fan can accept this, not for me

Fans sing songs that their rivals despise. Hardly a new thing is it?

I’m sure they don’t like our songbook either but as has been the case for decades, you give as good as you get at games

 

[snoopyboymason]

While I agree with the decision selfishly because I go to away games it is unarguable that's it's an absolute disgrace that any season ticket holder will miss a game vs them at Ibrox so it's conflicting

 

[CLSFB]

at the end of the day fans dont win games players do.

That’s nonsense.

If you don’t think fans CAN make a difference in things you’ve no watched much fitbaw.

 

[ForGodForCountryForever]

No fans is no use and an embarrassment to Scottish Football - I'd rather Rangers were not part of any such situation.

5% is next to nothing so even such pittance causing a stir underscores the depth of decided opinion.

I'm not sure there was a great outcome but this is an outcome and that's a good thing.

 

[TriggersBroom]

That’s nonsense.

If you don’t think fans CAN make a difference in things you’ve no watched much fitbaw.

The Leipzig manager seemed to think the atmosphere killed his team in the first half of our biggest fixture in many many years ..

 

[CLSFB]

No they didn’t, they said “fans should be at both games” or words to that effect.

Rangers’ position has always been for away supporters to be present at these games, and with this move, a significant number of our fans will be able to support our team at Parkhead in seasons ahead.

 

[Taylor armagh]

100%.

There is nothing that gets the adrenaline and the battle fever going more than being at an OF game when you look across and see the enemy within the walls of Ibrox.

The build up before the game with both sets of fans ready to go to war with each other, trading songs back and forth, with all four corners of the stadium singing the same song but seemingly out of sync at times, because the noise is so deafening you can hardly hear your own voice, let alone what the other end of the ground are singing. Then there’s that moment when that lot are singing so loud that you can’t even make out what song our own fans are trying to get going, until it filters round the ground and then Ibrox to a man drowns them out completely as they belt into Derry’s Walls or the like.

There is a venom to the atmosphere that you only get through having thousands of your enemy trading blows with you. 800 just doesn’t cut it. Nor does packing them away in the club deck where you can’t see them. I want to look into the whites of their eyes as kick off approaches and when we go one, two, three nil up. There is nothing better than winning the war and having an all out party in front of them all looking absolutely pig sick, before they eventually trudge out one by one.

In all honesty, the crescendo of noise that’s created between the two sets of fans when they had the whole Broomloan was something else. Particularly the way Ibrox is designed with the fans packed in so tightly and right on top of the pitch. I’m not suggesting we go back to that, but having no away fans is ruining the game as a spectacle. I’ll never forget my first experience of it as a kid and we shouldn’t take that away from the next generation.

Great post

 

[jigster]

All I've seen from then over social media since yesterday is how they want the 'old allocation or nothing'. Why are they so desperate for this?

because at the moment ( last 5-10 years ) they are the dominant team ........... for me the old allocation or nothing is a soundbite in a sense that everyone non Rangers will then say " old allocation " when truth be told euro allocation was all they could ever hope for .


Rangers have almost 46,000 ST holders we'd have to go back to 39,000 levels before a full end could be accommodated not including Scottish Cup which would be interesting should 45,000 sign up for " All Home league games " in their Season Ticket renewal.

ps, i think Sky interference is bullshit ..... how many Edinburgh derby's have they aired this year ?

 

[Artful Dodger]

No fans is no use and an embarrassment to Scottish Football - I'd rather Rangers were not part of any such situation.

5% is next to nothing so even such pittance causing a stir underscores the depth of decided opinion.

I'm not sure there was a great outcome but this is an outcome and that's a good thing.

Pish! I take you won’t be missing out when that comes to Ibrox? Fu*king disgrace Bears will miss out seeing their team all to accommodate that filth. Those that want this give up your seat to guys that’ll miss out. Bet none will volunteer. But happy to watch others fu*ked over shameful. Bowed to that disease and some are happy about it. Embarrassing.

 

[CLSFB]

Waken up mate
The whole of Scotland hates us, Peter Lowell has his manky hands all over this and his end game is the Full Broomloan Stand
Haha very funny indeed
Can’t wait to see your reply when it happens

Rangers released a statement saying they wanted this.

But it’s a conspiracy from the SPFL and Peter Lawell now.

This place is nuts.

 

[Detective Vic Mackey]

No fans is no use and an embarrassment to Scottish Football - I'd rather Rangers were not part of any such situation.

5% is next to nothing so even such pittance causing a stir underscores the depth of decided opinion.

I'm not sure there was a great outcome but this is an outcome and that's a good thing.

It won’t be 5% for us.

We’ll get shafted with the number of tickets and be given less than 5% while they will be given 5% of Ibrox.

The club have bent over.

 

[VMS]

Fcking disgraceful from Rangers,we are not dealing with normal individuals here,we are dealing with individuals who cheer when our queen died and glorify terrorism,when the first hamas flag gets flown at Ibrox its on this fcking clueless board

 

[bLuE PirAtE]

Is it possible the GB will refuse the new allocation and start boycotting their home games? I laugh at their sense of self-importance.

 

[Gladstone]

People wonder why the Scottish Premiership TV deals are so bad when the biggest games don't even have away fans, it's so tin pot.

I'm not saying we will get good TV deals with away fans, but it will do no harm in getting a better deal.

Not having away fans negativity affects the product that is being sold.

 

[Artful Dodger]

People wonder why the Scottish Premiership TV deals are so bad when the biggest games don't even have away fans, it's so tin pot.

I'm not saying we will get good TV deals with away fans, but it will do no harm in getting a better deal.

Not having away fans negativity affects the product that is being sold.

Nonsense. The corrupt cu*ts at the top of Scottish football who agreed the piss poor deal caused that not the fact rheptiles were not inside Ibrox.

 

[govanite]

This forum has been infiltrated by them no way sane Rangers supporters would vote themselves out of a seat .

 

[ronadamus_prime]

People wonder why the Scottish Premiership TV deals are so bad when the biggest games don't even have away fans, it's so tin pot.

I'm not saying we will get good TV deals with away fans, but it will do no harm in getting a better deal.

Not having away fans negativity affects the product that is being sold.

Nobody wonders why we have a shit TV deal mate. It's fairly obvious why, and OF allocations have very little to do with it. Don't insult people's intelligence.

The events of 2012, killed all competition in the league stone dead. The league became a one team league for about 6 seasons on the bounce. That mob strolled to the title and accrued an absolutely insane bank balance in the process. The rest of the league suffered due to a lack of money circulating in the league, because they all stupidly voted for millions of pounds worth of ticket money to be removed from the game.

The league is run by incompetents. Who don't seem to care about the long term future of the game.

The standard of football is utterly shite. It's kick and rush garbage played on pitches that either look like the somme or a car park painted green.

The best local talent in the league is hoovered up by English clubs. The foreign talent gets maimed on or by the aforementioned pitches or by the kick and rush tactics, on a regular basis.

The refereeing is next level atrocious. That is actively detrimental towards sides that attempt to actually play proper football. Thuggery and shithousery are given a free pass up here.

The stadiums are more than half empty every weekend. Take us and them out of the equation and the average attendance numbers would plummet.

That's why the TV deal is pish. It's not a mystery and the OF allocation has little bearing on things.

 

[PT98]

This forum has been infiltrated by them no way sane Rangers supporters would vote themselves out of a seat .

The biggest Rangers fan I know openly wants the allocation back, certainly to at a minimum this 2.5k.

They don't sit in the Broomloan and go to every away game so it doesn't affect them, therefore they don't care that Rangers fans will miss out.

It's the way of the world. 99% of people only care about what affects them.

 

[Class of 72]

Rangers’ position has always been for away supporters to be present at these games, and with this move, a significant number of our fans will be able to support our team at Parkhead in seasons ahead.

I know, at no point did they say the wanted more fans at Ibrox.

 

[Nikau's Mullet]

Where does it say anything in that statement that they will be in the Broomloan?
Seriously the board needs to clever and look to put that shower in the club deck. We are a big club, so think like a big club does in Europe! Where are the away sections at the San Siro, Nou Camp, Bernabeu for example? Up in the gods

 

[PT98]

Where does it say anything in that statement that they will be in the Broomloan?
Seriously the board needs to clever and look to put that shower in the club deck. We are a big club, so think like a big club does in Europe! Where are the away sections at the San Siro, Nou Camp, Bernabeu for example? Up in the gods

They're in the corner, BR/BF5 and part of BR/BF4. Season ticket holders in those areas have already been emailed confirming this

 

[CLSFB]

Where does it say anything in that statement that they will be in the Broomloan?
Seriously the board needs to clever and look to put that shower in the club deck. We are a big club, so think like a big club does in Europe! Where are the away sections at the San Siro, Nou Camp, Bernabeu for example? Up in the gods

Putting Celtics support directly above rangers supporters is just asking for trouble. Ridiculous comment.

Also the club deck had the most expensive seats in Ibrox including hospitality sections. So why the %^*& would rangers do that. I’d have no issues putting them in the west enclosure though…

 

[Est1872]

The biggest Rangers fan I know openly wants the allocation back, certainly to at a minimum this 2.5k.

They don't sit in the Broomloan and go to every away game so it doesn't affect them, therefore they don't care that Rangers fans will miss out.

It's the way of the world. 99% of people only care about what affects them.

I don't think it's necessarily selfish.

You can acknowledge that for the betterment of the atmosphere and the spectacle, away fans had to return. Whilst acknowledging that it is unfortunate some in Broomloan will miss out.

Just because it doesn't affect them directly doesn't mean it's a selfish viewpoint.

Similar to the Copland singing section. It was unfortunate those in CF3 would be inconvenienced, but in the name of progress it had to happen.

 

[Withambear]

There is a clear division on this topic

A number of our supporters want to support the team at the piggery and if that means 3000 rangers fans miss out at Ibrox so be it

A roughly equal amount of fans don’t want them anywhere near our stadium polluting the atmosphere and would rather we look after our own

And another roughly equal amount want 800 max stick in the corner

The board however would rather shaft their own to appease the peasants so decision made

No different to the cash grab of doing a public sale of corporate semi tickets to anyone with the cash as was the case with the last cl campaign

All about the ££££ and to hell with rewarding loyalty

 

[Bluestevo]

this is how they should be housed

 

[Valley Bluenose]

Where does it say anything in that statement that they will be in the Broomloan?
Seriously the board needs to clever and look to put that shower in the club deck. We are a big club, so think like a big club does in Europe! Where are the away sections at the San Siro, Nou Camp, Bernabeu for example? Up in the gods

Forget the statement. Rangers email about moving seats specified that those in BF5/BR5 and some of BF4/BR4 would be impacted.

My view, and that of many others, is that the BF1/BR1 side would be better. Downside to that though is that more Bears would have to be moved.

 

[GazzaG]

People wonder why the Scottish Premiership TV deals are so bad when the biggest games don't even have away fans, it's so tin pot.

I'm not saying we will get good TV deals with away fans, but it will do no harm in getting a better deal.

Not having away fans negativity affects the product that is being sold.

EPL clubs have to give away fans 3,000 tickets unless their stadium is under 30k.

It's very tin pot that we don't have any away fans for old firm games.

Not having away fans is so tinpot.

Makes us look bad. Makes the Scottish league look bad.

I'm not really sure, but are you trying to tell us something is tin pot?

 

[Gladstone]

I'm not really sure, but are you trying to tell us something is tin pot?

Aye tin pot

 

[SDF]

People wonder why the Scottish Premiership TV deals are so bad when the biggest games don't even have away fans, it's so tin pot.

I'm not saying we will get good TV deals with away fans, but it will do no harm in getting a better deal.

Not having away fans negativity affects the product that is being sold.

It's so bad because Doncaster and the majority of clubs signed up at the same money for the next six years whilst other leagues did the sensible thing and put their contracts out for tender and watched their deals go through the roof.

It's got nothing to do with OF allocations.

 

[RobGer]

Don’t we have them in a corner wedge? They have a pillar and we don’t. Perhaps we should just install an unnecessary pillar for parity?

Why’s it about their allocation? Let’s flip it. We wanted tickets for their place too, the club statement says so. We had 800, then zero, now we have 3k.

Who’s coming out on top now?

Ive watched Gers at their place since a kid in 60s and soaked up the atmosphere home and away.Times have changed in last 12 years - If the choice now is 2500 or 0 I'd prefer 0.

 

[Nikau's Mullet]

Putting Celtics support directly above rangers supporters is just asking for trouble. Ridiculous comment.

Also the club deck had the most expensive seats in Ibrox including hospitality sections. So why the %^*& would rangers do that. I’d have no issues putting them in the west enclosure though…

Put netting up....screens if need be.
Would supporters be less inclined to cause trouble further up at a stadium?. Just throwing suggestions out there (excuse the pun). I feel like the club has to be savvy in dealing with them. I aren't alone in thinking what the end game is for them.

 

[Angus Young]

On the whole it's the lesser of two evils.

Broadcasters were not happy.

 

[dexter rfc]

That’s nonsense.

If you don’t think fans CAN make a difference in things you’ve no watched much fitbaw.

ive never seen a fan score yet.

 

[Corriebear]

I think this is a terrible outcome.

I was happy for them to have the Broomloan in return for us getting the whole Springfield Road back. Instead we’ll still in the corner, while they will have the majority of their fans behind the goal.

 

[NHAMPTON_BEAR]

Put netting up....screens if need be.
Would supporters be less inclined to cause trouble further up at a stadium?. Just throwing suggestions out there (excuse the pun). I feel like the club has to be savvy in dealing with them. I aren't alone in thinking what the end game is for them.

This is the point - forget about now, this is done. This needs to be a game of chess, what are our next two/three moves. Our end game needs to be to get them away from the cameras, out of sight and out of mind.

 

[derek145]

Putting Celtics support directly above rangers supporters is just asking for trouble. Ridiculous comment.

Also the club deck had the most expensive seats in Ibrox including hospitality sections. So why the %^*& would rangers do that. I’d have no issues putting them in the west enclosure though…

West enclosure all day long for me, very easy to segregate and the capacity shouldn't be too far from the allocated amount. The police will have some input and I dare say that the corner currently used is easier for away fans to be escorted in and out but it's up to the police to deal with it

 

[PaulieGualtieri]

ive never seen a fan score yet.

God, what a ridiculous argument.

Fans can play a massive part on the outcome of games.

 

[gr1688]

Because likely neither club can make the changes they’ve mutually agreed to in such short course.

Long game has played out here and been successful.

We could go there next season as champions with nearly 3,000 bears in fine voice.

What a day out that will be for many.

I can understand that it could be a good day out for some, but it looks like it will be at the expense of ST holders in the Broomy which I think is wrong, these guys supported Rangers when they needed them, now they may be getting told, sorry, but Sky TV is more important then your loyalty and if you dont like it, FO we are sure someone will take your place

 

[gr1688]

The only club in the world where fans are criticised for wanting to follow their club against their rivals in the biggest games of the season.

lol.

you can easily change that to " The only club in the world where ST holders and fans are criticised for wanting to follow their club against their rivals in the biggest home games of the season"

 

[dh1963]

Slightly off topic, but this summer's season renewals is going to be carnage with record numbers of unhappy fans.
We've got fans forced to move from Copland Front so the new singing section gets created, with those displaced to get "priority" on seat moves.
We've got fans forced to move from the Copland Rear so the new disabled section Gers created, with those displaced to get "priority" on seat moves.
We've got fans needing to move from Broomloan Front if they want to guarantee they see the next game against Celtic, and they also get "priority".

Recipe for absolute chaos. And I know their current seats don't belong to them. But it seems inevitable many long standing match friendships and potentially many family groups will no longer sit together. And some very possibly won't get to see the biggest game any more into the bargain.

The SLO is going to need a bodyguard!

 

[Butterbean]

Anybody who doesn’t like what they sing at Ibrox isn’t singing loud enough.

 

[Blues and Royals]

So when Celtic refuse to give us 5 per cent and instead land us with 2,500, our board must then tell them the deal has been reneged on by them and as such, they will be going back to their old allocation of 800 when they come to Ibrox.

 

[The People]

Do we not have near 47thousand season ticket holders
So surely everyone affected will be offered a seat somewhere else when we play Them

 

[dexter rfc]

God, what a ridiculous argument.

Fans can play a massive part on the outcome of games.

off course they can .a was being flippant .

 

[dunn1872]

We are even building new turnstiles for their benefit while doing nothing to to the CR which will add mega queues to get in when 1k extra fans get added.

Really treating the home support with disdain.

The work on Copland will be starting in the summer though.

 

[yosser hughes]

On the whole it's the lesser of two evils.

Broadcasters were not happy.

f@ck the broadcasters, they are not the concern here, if they feel they arent getting the best deal possible then they are quite within their rights to f@ck off out of Scottish football,their remit is to screen the games they pick,not to dictate percentages of crowd allocations