They're even under 4.5 on Betfair now and while I don't belittle their chances, I think that's awful short.Read post 11 as well as others throughout it. By the way it’s my job and I work with an Eastern European facing firm and our biggest loser is England at present (4/1 was taken to do this). Feel free to point me in the direction of any bookies on earth where England are over 7/2, even finding 7/2 is hard now and has been for a few months.
They have to price the competition up before a bet is placed though.bookies decide who is favourite by the amount of money put on them
if scotland had the most money on them then they would be favourites
They're even under 4.5 on Betfair now and while I don't belittle their chances, I think that's awful short.
Frustration is good for the goal.Italy and Holland are likely to have the hardest routes in the competition.
Mate, I worked for on course bookies off and on for about 40 years and I bet/trade on the exchanges every day but put me in a modern bookies office and I imagine I'd be lost.I think 4/1 joint with France would be right but as I really can’t see any issue reaching the quarters as group winners (I’ve a flight booked for it - that’s my gamble regarding it) I understand the lack of 7/2.
All this about just being bookie favs in the UK is laughable, really shows up people who have no idea just how much the world has evolved this century with the internet and gambling.
Debatable.They have the best players so they should be favourites
If Southgate fails his 4th tournament attempt with this squad, he should have his balls booted
7/2 favourites in my local HillsYou can get double that to be fair, although some probably think they are 10/1 in Scottish Shops as the locals have had a few tenners on them!
6/1 with home advantage is a tempting price imo.I think England have a real chance, you look at the players they have and there is genuine quality throughout, if they had a world class keeper and central defender, I would fancy them strongly.
Have a wee feeling though the Germans might prevail.
If Germany had the equivalent players to Kane and Bellingham in their team - they would rightly be (or close to being) favourites.Every single bookmaker in the world have England as favs (or co favs) from Paris to Peru to Port Adelaide to Peckham. It’s a myth it’s only in the uk, we will get the usual nonsense though about English money being the reason for it however and people reckoning it’s a bigger price in other parts of the world, it’s been hard to get 7/2 for a good few months now.
Prices with the firm who have the most shops on the German high street for instance:
What makes you think the French are past their prime? Loads of players probably reaching their peak ages of 26-28 within their squad.Exactly and in the end the deficiencies of the Manager will hamper the abilities of the players.
France are strong but past their prime as a team, not dissimilar to Spain after their great run.
Given the closeness likely in the KO stages the winners may not need to be prolific goalscorers so the likes of Italy and Holland seem very credible outsiders.
The hype around England will make the bookies plenty of money though, especially as they'll go close.
Send your burst coupons to Gareth Southgate.
Who do you fancy to win @Wazza ?
Mate, I worked for on course bookies off and on for about 40 years and I bet/trade on the exchanges every day but put me in a modern bookies office and I imagine I'd be lost.
Agree with you totally about your dog race at Crayford comment.
LOL, I know you weren't having a go. I'm agreeing with your point of view.Wasn’t having a go mate. Just meant information is so openly available now across the world it’s daft to think for a competition of this magnitude you’ll be able to get vastly different prices around the globe for who will win it. That’s besides all the arbing opportunities it would present, simply doesn’t exist now other than small stake gimmicks etc - expect Hills will go 4/1 England for a tenner in the lead up at some point for example. Also about Scotland being made favs if they attracted support, it’s one of the strongest markets you’ll ever see this comp.
I think 4/1 joint with France would be right but as I really can’t see any issue reaching the quarters as group winners (I’ve a flight booked for it - that’s my gamble regarding it) I understand the lack of 7/2.
All this about just being bookie favs in the UK is laughable, really shows up people who have no idea just how much the world has evolved this century with the internet and gambling.
I stuck £100 on them prior to Euro 2020 and got them at 9/1, thought the odds were generous considering they were going into the tournament unbeaten in something like 22 gamesItaly are worth a punt at 16/1
Ok I'll take £1 on Scotland at 1000/1Scotland at 80/1 alongside Ukraine is fucking ridiculous. If anyone wants to waste some money I will give you 1000/1.
English bookie will be wanting to limit their exposure to an England tournament win. So the odds aren't going to be genuinely reflective of any chance they have of winning. They probably have the best player in the tournament in Jude Bellingham, but there are serious issues in goal and at the back. Bellingham is the best player in the tournament (probably) but the England squad isnt the best squad. Puts an awful lot of pressure on one or two guys to carry them.
WOuld be intresting to see stakes by country and people also forget bookies are so interconnected to markets the UK money could well drive the price but that sets exposire worldwide
France are winning anyway and thats were my cash is going