Especially when Bellingham is off to Real Madrid.
Exciting final day in Bundesliga season
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Especially when Bellingham is off to Real Madrid.
KensingtonBlue
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Bayern win Bundesliga, PSG win Ligue 1, Man City win EPL
Fantastic. European domestic football is so competitive and unpredictable. The European Super League is a terrible idea, right?
Fantastic. European domestic football is so competitive and unpredictable. The European Super League is a terrible idea, right?
Burnleybluenose
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It was always guaranteed Dortmund wouldn’t win the league. Watch for over inflated sale of player to…Bayern during summer as compensation.
prenzlauerbear
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Utterly bizarre scenes yesterday. Brazzo fired - which he apparently knew about beforehand - yet he's still out there dancing on the pitch with the players when they won the league. Muller etc. in disbelief.
FC Hollywood indeed.
As crushing as that is for BVB, I think deep down their diehard fans wouldn't be entirely shocked at how it panned out. A Spurs-y narrative has been running through the club for years; Klopp was the closest they ever got to moving on from it.
FC Hollywood indeed.
As crushing as that is for BVB, I think deep down their diehard fans wouldn't be entirely shocked at how it panned out. A Spurs-y narrative has been running through the club for years; Klopp was the closest they ever got to moving on from it.
sonofbunk
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Oh aye. In terms of bottle crashing, they are Hibs + Spurs x infinity.
Wazza
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Can’t think of anyone top class bar Bellingham there right now. They tend go the other way in recent times.
prenzlauerbear
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I'd agree with that. It's a really average team.
Marco Reus must feel like chucking it. Wonder if he actually would have if not for the Euros next summer.
VGM
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Someone else made a point on here yesterday that the behaviour of their fans after the game is part of the problem.
“Don’t worry lads it’s okay! You tried your best. Never mind the fact Bayern let you back in about 4 times in the last two months.”
prenzlauerbear
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Rafa Honigstein had a brilliant quote about that in one of his recent articles. "Dortmund is a great place to make a good living and play pretty football for those who aren’t quite elite material or still developing their potential, but it breeds a mentality of getting comfortable in failure."
Bavarians are just another species entirely when it comes to mentality.
Wazza
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Big time that last sentence mate, I really noticed that when living in Munich, many people used to say similar.
VGM
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“Everyone’s favourite second team”
Go back and watch the last day of 2001 season when Hamburg score in 90th minute.
Kahn just grabs the ball and charges up to the centre circle for kickoff.
Most cunts would be laid out in the turf, thinking they’d blown the title.
prenzlauerbear
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Wazza
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Haha, woman on the plane said that me when I first went out there."Italy's most northern city"
Maestro72
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In what way? Genuinely curious
Waltzingwalter
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What did she mean by it?Was it to do with the lifestyle of the people
Wazza
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Very refined overall, some would say boring, very much about success and winning, tended to look down on other parts of Germany. Not for one minute saying all were like that as they weren’t, met and worked with some great folk but very different to other parts of Germany. I’ll always see Munich as proper wealthy. There was a reason why they had a zone out of the centre for the young ones to go on the piss I always thought. When I was there they voted against having the Winter Olympics there, Munich born and bred lad I knocked about with a bit said it was the “not in my backyard” mentality of many. The apartment rentals were cartel like (probably same in other gaffs to be fair) in that your struggle finding anywhere without paying a finders fee to one of the few agents. Companies used to struggle getting people to go work there because the rents were so high (I paid 900 euros a month in 2014 for a 28 square metre apartment), it’s about 1300 now, could be more. Microsoft were on about actually building flats to get people to go, it maybe happened. Lovely City and I love going back but the wealth and attitude of many was crazy at times, I probably drank in the roughest boozer there in my two years there and it was nowt compared to many in Britain.I used to like going drinking around Giesing where 1860 are from, always saw them as the Club of Munich whereas Bayern the Club of the Bundesland.
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Wazza
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Yeah the way they live really, way the City is in parts. She was actually English and a nice woman. Sure she said she saw it as similar to Vienna, which I kind of understand now. One thing I always remember her saying was they still have their Sundays, which was very true - bank holidays as well, next to nothing would be open. We used to get 40 euros by law for working on a Sunday and we couldn’t start before 9am, sure it was just Bavarian law.
prenzlauerbear
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Bit of an in-joke/stereotype in Germany that Bavarians see themselves so superior to the point they like to think of themselves as Italian rather than German. More cultured etc.
"Mia san mia" - the club motto - is a Bavarian take of "we are who we are". "Mia san Mia stands for the complete will to succeed," explained homegrown Bayern star Thomas Müller. "That's how we manage to turn games round so often. There's no middle ground, only wins. "Mia san Mia stands for a hardcore winning mentality."
Youth players are basically indoctrinated in this mindset from when they're kids in the academy. So much so that they don't even require media training when they make the step up . A lot of people, particularly those up north, think it extends to the wider culture.
It's best embodied in guys like Schweinsteiger and Lahm. The new breed don't quite embody that kind of invincibility yet, even taking into account days like yesterday.
prenzlauerbear
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Always had you down as a weinschorle-drinking Bogenhausen man
Places like Grunwald and Tegernsee are a different world. Think most BVB players live in Dusseldorf with a pretty cushty set up but you can see the temptation when Bayern and the chance to move there arises
SDF
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They are the club that every other one should aspire to be.
They revel in their role as ruthless bastards. My admiration for them only gets stronger every time they fúck the next hapless team over.
As for Dortmund, me no likey. I find something incredibly off about them. They put themselves on a pedestal which they have no business being on. Like our pals across the city and down in Liverpool they seem to see themselves as some sort of self appointed morality police for football purity that makes me boak
prenzlauerbear
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Oh aye, I get that and have always thought it stems from them trying to find some kind of identity in reaction to the unrelenting big Red machine. I used to be pretty ambivalent towards them but there's something about the club that gets under your skin when they're playing well. Think the passion of the fans and just the intensity about the place. They have that Arsenal thing where they are haplessly insane to the point it's engrossing, for better or worse. Yesterday being a case in point.
Totally different mentality between the two clubs as you say, and no surprise players between the two find it hard to gel, even in successful national teams.
Wazza
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Blueranger45
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the sacking of Oliver Khan and Hasan Salihamidzic right after the final whistle shows that the top guys at Bayern were not happy with this season
one thing Bayern didn't do this season was replace Lewandowski's 35-40+ goals output and they need to do that in the summer
There's a good BTL discussion in the Grun:
www.theguardian.com
Borussia Dortmund hand Bundesliga title to Bayern Munich with Mainz draw
Borussia Dortmund went two goals down and could only salvage a 2-2 draw with Mainz, meaning Bayern Munich snatched the title via a 2-1 victory at Cologne
www.theguardian.com
Do you think Kane would do the business over there? Looks like a tailor made fit.
Blueranger45
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if he wanted to move from the PL which is doubtful, I reckon he'd score plenty in Germany
Virtually guaranteed League medal for him at a great club in a beautiful area and a decent shot at the UCL.
What about the Bundesliga 2 today?
Hamburg won 1-0 and were sitting in 2nd place...Heidenheim were 2-0 down, then 2-1, then scored in the 94th and 99th minute to win 3-2 and not only leapfrog Hamburg into the automatic promotion places but win the league.
Hamburg won 1-0 and were sitting in 2nd place...Heidenheim were 2-0 down, then 2-1, then scored in the 94th and 99th minute to win 3-2 and not only leapfrog Hamburg into the automatic promotion places but win the league.
Wazza
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This is a decent marker really:
LIVE NOW: Watch our title celebrations at Marienplatz | LIVE NOW: Watch our title celebrations at Marienplatz | By FC Bayern München | Facebook
LIVE NOW: Watch our title celebrations at Marienplatz
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Not exactly wild celebrations!
Sam Minella
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Hamburg are cursed by this point, and they are their own worst enemy.What about the Bundesliga 2 today?
Hamburg won 1-0 and were sitting in 2nd place...Heidenheim were 2-0 down, then 2-1, then scored in the 94th and 99th minute to win 3-2 and not only leapfrog Hamburg into the automatic promotion places but win the league.
This was really the season that they had to get promoted in, as you can see from the teams that have went up, it was probably the weakest the league has been since HSV got relegated. Now with Schalke and Hertha going down it will be very competitive.
I don't see them beating Stuttgart and from memory only two teams from the division beneath have won the play-off.
