semi final is 10% of Rangers allocation , or that was the figures quoted last night at Fans forum
Fans forum report from 4 lads
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Deckard
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I agree. They’re kidding themselves if they think the council will provide an honest and fair assessment in relation to our needs.
No Pyro No Party
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Bisgrov£ also told us the most the Savillers would ever get be the corner, the same as everyone else.
Why should anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth?
Gringotts Dragon
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Hampden is different, I’m talking about domestic aways. I’m sure it used to be 15% for RSCs at hampden before mygers
100% , there was a thread on here where a guy highlighted how wrong it was , his daughters seat sub ticket got say £36 because he'd seat subbed her old firm ticket which paid for 33% of her Season ticket cost but following season he tried the same trick she got £9 when they went to " game average " seat sub payment and the lad wasn't happy about the change ......
I think people are going to be disappointed if they expect much investment when it comes to parking.
The use of parking is basically discouraged on just about every football teams site you go on, councils and clubs don't really want fans congesting areas, chuck in things like the LEZ in city centers, the use of cars isn't wanted.
As well as that clubs will want foot traffic, we are increasing the number of bars and family areas around the stadium, the chance for people to have a drink, be in the stadium foot fall longer and spend money.
The more likely investment of time from the club will be into trying to find some way to increase public transport links, a car park is just wasted land to the club for most of the year now.
The use of parking is basically discouraged on just about every football teams site you go on, councils and clubs don't really want fans congesting areas, chuck in things like the LEZ in city centers, the use of cars isn't wanted.
As well as that clubs will want foot traffic, we are increasing the number of bars and family areas around the stadium, the chance for people to have a drink, be in the stadium foot fall longer and spend money.
The more likely investment of time from the club will be into trying to find some way to increase public transport links, a car park is just wasted land to the club for most of the year now.
I am with you on this one.
This summer shows the club can and will change things regardless of the fans.
All it's going to take is some bother in the stands or concourse and that'll be the full stand argument back again. Thankfully they moved the UB before this change (coincidence?)
I'm actually relatively happy where I am. High end of Silver which I think is about right. I don't do programme subs, RTV, Euro aways etc
As long as I stay at that top end based on my domestic loyalty then I think it's fair.
das
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Or perhaps she would rather have them in her own name and get the points for them instead of someone sitting at home and collecting them.She then added that she actually got some yesterday morning
Add in the woman who has been to 14 euro aways but only with her own ticket twice but has used other peoples tickets, it’s suited her to use them before but wants it stopped now, farcical.
Gringotts Dragon
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Perhaps but the reason she was unable to get them in her name is due to not having enough points. It’s a small % of euro travellers that play the game and the impact is overstated. Considering very few games in recent years have remained gold only, the person in question must be quite far down
When did he say that?
but maybe still wouldn't have the required amount of points so would still have to rely on other ways of getting tickets which would still be " unfair " , Greg Marshall made a good point last night in regards " user experience " that having 3000+ fans turning up for ticket collection isn't really feasible.
ps, she obviously has really good sources
BillyBoys
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Exactly, if you have a handful of contacts you know who go to games regularly you'll get hold of home end tickets easily and that's without even trying to buy them online.
Some people don't want to try though.
ML1Rangers
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When did he say that?
One of the first things he said in his new role was the allocation would be looked at.
Bleedsroyalblue
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Was it not the case that he said at the first CEO forum held that they wouldn't ever get the full Broomloan stand again? A position he reiterated yesterday
Can't remember him saying the 800ish in the corner was going to be the max so I've missed something if he has
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A lot of us might not even get 5, I'm on 4 and 1 of them was Hibs in the cup so if I don't get St Mirren I'll end the season on 4
From memory Aberdeen had configured their ground in a way that meant meeting the 10% cup threshold would result in a breach of their safety certificate.
Which to me was ridiculous. Any team entering the Scottish Cup should have a ground that is fit to accomodate 10%. Otherwise what is the point in having that rule.
Bleedsroyalblue
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Likewise, I'm still on 4 none of which have been category A (St Mirren, Livingston, St Johnstone and Kilmarnock). Still have an outside chance of Hearts obviously but not getting my hopes up.
Thought I was misremembering that - the club have been clear on no to 8k rather than euro allocation
Dundee, St Johnstone, Livingston, Hibs, 3 of them I could have got without mygers, picked up Kilmarnock twice and St Mirren elsewhere this season
Gringotts Dragon
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Not comparable given the security reasons presented was due to Aberdeen removing the internal barrier closest to the half way line whilst we were in the lower leagues
There has been no change to how the broomloan is configured which would prevent them getting a full stand in the Scottish cup
das
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14 euro aways at 15 points each is a fair boost though. People have to get points to climb to qualify for to get more points.
Nobody knows the scale it happens at because it's Impossible to check and it doesn't look like the club care enough to do anything although Prague was a surprise with the amount being turned away. It was easier with the small allocation though.
Gringotts Dragon
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Not all the away games have been 15 points as it changed. Also, the person must not have had required points for the first few European games following return to games. Brondby was tight, Belgrade, Lyon and Braga dropped right down. Could’ve got 15 points for all if she wanted to go
Also, what do you expect the club to do? They’d either need to increase staff numbers that travel over to distribute tickets, which would lead to a significant cost, or they’d have to do it over numerous days which would mean fans having to be in the city early. Both are never going to happen
It takes hours to distribute small allocations like Prague. How do you propose they do allocations of 2000+ fans?
that happened to me last season , 1 less than others that were in gold ....... swings and roundabouts mate
das
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All tickets may drop though if only those going actually bought them. How many expected USG, Servette or Aris to drop to 20 points given the relatively small allocations?
Perhaps she did get points for those games and the 14 were above that. I can't remember how many I've been to during the period but it certainly feels more than that. That's the reason that I started in bronze and am now comfortably in gold.
Who knows how the club police it. The easiest way would be take euro aways out of mygers so the extra points are worthless unless you go to euro aways or only do collection for a percentage and be strict with Draconian penalties such as booted off the scheme as they have paid lip service to. It only takes all day because that's the time period allowed, most of the time I've picked up tickets abroad there's been a handful of people doing it at the same time but more appear the later in the day. Other big clubs appear to manage it apparently.
At the end of the day though I doubt that the club care enough as long as they get the money and those at the top won't care as long as they get the tickets and points and I probably include myself in that.
Aye I remeber reading that thread. It was bizarre.
and then you have to factor in most clubs are moving with the technology and investing in QR codes or print at home tickets
Gringotts Dragon
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A percentage of the allocation being city collection would definitely be the best approach but there’s no way the club will ever do full allocation when it’s over 1000. Prague took ages and the allocation was tiny so god knows how bad it would’ve been if there was hundreds more having to collect
lad was raging and was implying club were basically taking the money for themselves , even when fans laid it out that his daughters ST price per game was an average he still wasn't buying it , almost 100% of people replying were on the clubs side but he just couldn't see it
das
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As I've said, Prague didn't take ages for myself or @clubdeckcharlie as we walked in and picked them up within minutes but that was before 10. We probably spent more time talking to the staff afterwards as it was empty
.I do accept that it can be busy at times especially if buses all arrive at the same time. Ideally something like Betis would be best as minimal club input and they did all the work checking passport numbers.
Ten Ton Tony
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It's always the same. The only gripes I ever hear against it are from people throwing toys out the pram because they can't personally pick and choose game by game. Back with the old system anyone on the scheme had an equal chance of away games whether it was their first ever foray into away applications, or someone who'd been applying for every game for a decade.
It's really not hard to understand. Folk who are on gold get the most, folk on silver will get less, and folk on bronze will get less again. It's top down for Euro and Hampden. It works exactly as a loyalty scheme should, and for all the naysayers, I've never bought a women's ST or anything like that and since the introduction i've moved from high bronze to high silver, just a few points away from gold, so movement between tiers is totally achievable.
I've picked up a few elsewhere over the season as well, is what it is
They had realised the way they were doing it was wrong because some folk were getting far more back than they should have been, his daughters ticket was a prime example of that
