Scarlett
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Not sure if this has been shared before but I thought it was interesting!
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Wonder how much Gerrard is ITK about their systems
I fu(king love shit like that.
Great article - thanks for sharing.
Data needs to be used more in general terms.
Fantastic article. Thanks for sharing.Not sure if this has been shared before but I thought it was interesting!
But that’s one of the advantages of analytics - you recognise that you lost because of bad luck and don’t make unnecessary changes that have a detrimental impact on a team that is actually playing well.A few years ago I would have sided more with the comments attributed to Sam Allardyce and Craig Burley in that article. If Liverpool are being seen as the case in point here then of course the use of stats and analytics can be seen as successful. The purchases of Coutinho and Salah being used as evidence.
However it's also true that the game of football is a hell of a lot different to baseball and NFL.
If Dortmund have 30 shots at goal and lose 0-2 to a team who have 5 then that's a combination of bad luck, poor finishing and probably an opposing goalkeeper having an outstanding match.
See the recent SLCF as example.
That was great and a really interesting read, looks like its paying off for Liverpool this year.Not sure if this has been shared before but I thought it was interesting!
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get yourself in there mate ,its as easy as 1,2,4That was great and a really interesting read, looks like its paying off for Liverpool this year.
Would love to get involved in this stuff but crap at maths
Btw that article explains the background and calibre of the lead analyist, it’s not just some speccy virgin from twitter many of these guys are mega boffin Astro physicist types who write algorithms and formalise how to best extract accurate data from stats. Not just get an export from opta into a spreadsheet and make a graph in excel.
I read a study only yesterday that shows that managers average more starting line up changes when they are unlucky and lose the match (2.5), than when they are actually bad but somehow win (1.5). Chelsea recently are a good example of that. That’s a major inefficiency - you’re fixing something that isn’t broken because you were unlucky.
I guess all the data is there for everyone to see its what you do with it what mattersBut apparently every club has the exact same data and information according to some on here...
They just use Opta I’m sure they said...
They've spent an awful lot less than most at that level, though. That's sort of the point. They have used the analysis to buy wisely and made huge profits.Also helps they can spend an absolute fortune on players a key bit of data that.
Fascinating read. It obviously works, as you can track Liverpools resurgence from when they started using the data. They bought Coutinho as he showed up well and then sold him to buy Van Dijk, Alisson and Fabinho with the profit.
Not surprising to read in the article that Craig Burley is not a fan ;-)
Nonsense, their net spend over the past 5 years is lower than the majority of other EPL clubs. In a net spend table they would be about 15th I think.Also helps they can spend an absolute fortune on players a key bit of data that.
Oooft! Some replies!I, too, find the application of sports statistical data interesting, Moneyball et al.
Cue a quick google search to learn more about Ian Graham.
Admittedly 7-8 years ago and the system was in its infancy, but it would appear some punters were unconvinced of this approach...!A PhD in what?
Meanwhile, Liverpool's owners, the Fenway Sports Group, are keeping to their data-based Moneyball philosophies by appointing Ian Graham, who has a PhD...www.sixcrazyminutes.com
Hindsight is a wonderful thing...
Nonsense, their net spend over the past 5 years is lower than the majority of other EPL clubs. In a net spend table they would be about 15th I think.
Btw that article explains the background and calibre of the lead analyist, it’s not just some speccy virgin from twitter many of these guys are mega boffin Astro physicist types who write algorithms and formalise how to best extract accurate data from stats. Not just get an export from opta into a spreadsheet and make a graph in excel.
Stats are key to spending money well though. Ask Ross Wilson.Would be good if we all had that net spend let's face it money spent is the difference at clubs on the whole not stats.
Also it depends who spends the money as well.