CR5
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Apparently there is going to be a way to listen to this if you can believe that: email onlinehearingaccess@scotcourts.gov.uk for a login.
Hearts & Partick Thistle vs SPFL Starts Today.
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Barrymoped
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Hopefully they have hired an excellent lawyer who can expose the SPFLs nonsense.
Barrymoped
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I’d doubt it. This is being fast tracked as it’s very time sensitive.
Might be wrong but isn’t this initial hearing to find out if Hearts and Thistle can proceed to court or have to be sent back to the SFA for them to mediate?
Noddy
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If that's the case they're phucked.
tigger
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If they have to go to the SFA to mediate, I think the clubs will want in interdict to stop the league starting.
Hopefully this tears the SPFL apart and our only option is to apply to the leagues down South.
BigAndBlue
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Totally agree-we should all be watching with interest.
Alex Venters
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Why is anyone still pushing this nonsense?
It's never going to happen.
Artful Dodger
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Being heard by a Glasgow RC can see this falling at the first.
Carsons Army
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They have too, as the SFA board is near the SPFL board. Its like Celtic having board members on a child abuse case.
Not whilst there is a viable option in this country. Hopefully the court case sorts this out.
Carsons Army
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is that true?
remembertheepoch
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Give me this give me this.
Artful Dodger
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I believe so mate.It was on here last week who was in sitting for it.
edit
Apparently it’s another Lord Clark that’s hearing it.Apologies for the mix up.
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Carsons Army
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By christ most lords seems to be RC these days. For a minority, they seem to have a high statistical presence. Need to start a campaign and work out why most ministers, lords etc are from a minority religion. FFS Protestant lifes matter!
Artful Dodger
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It’s a Lord Clark who is presiding.Google is your friend here.
Riccles
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It's Alistair Clark, Lord Clark QC, a judge of the Court of Session who is presiding.
edit: The salary of a Judge of the Court of Session is £179,768 per annum. What's Doncaster on again?
Artful Dodger
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Apologies I thought I read it was Lord Matthew Clarke.Educated at holy cross in hamilton.
Artful Dodger
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Either way I still think this will fail.Apologies I thought I read it was Lord Matthew Clarke.Educated at holy cross in hamilton.
Gibraltar Loyal
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Bypass SFA and straight to CAS as there are people thay cross over on both boards..conflict of interests
Carlton The Bear
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Going to the SFA to mediate >
Hopefully a judge would see the futility in asking the left hand what the right hand was doing.
cambridgeblue
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Going to the SFA to mediate >
Mediation only works if both parties agree to it and the mediator - Hearts would be daft to agree to the SFA. Perhaps the FA...
Noddy
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Fair point.
Yeh mate I'd love to get stuck in the championship for years to come, wouldn't you? You realise if we played in England we would never win another trophy, unless you see us beating man city etc?
cambridgeblue
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But not commenting..
ald
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Let's not confuse arbitration with mediation. As I understand it, the SPFL will argue that the SPFL rules require that the issues between them and Hearts, Thistle etc. should go to binding arbitration and, in effect, that the Court of Session does not have jurisdiction to hear the matters in dispute. Hearts and Thistle on the other hand will no doubt argue that this isn't a dispute which falls within the arbitration provisions of the SPFL rules and therefore that the Court of Session does have jurisdiction to hear the matters in dispute. The main difference between arbitration and mediation is that in arbitration the arbitrator / arbiter hears evidence and makes a decision (i.e. arbitration is a substitute for a court). In mediation, the process is a voluntary negotiation with the assistance of a neutral third party. The parties do not reach a resolution unless all sides agree (which of course they are under zero obligation to do).
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Carsons Army
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did u get a log in?
johnredx
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There is only one way Rangers or Sceptic will get into England to play and that is if SKY TV demand it of the FA, and even then I cannot see UEFA or FIFA allowing it, and SFA will never agree as it will be the end of them.
Noddy
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England neither wants or needs the Old Firm. A complete non starter.
cambridgeblue
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Can't believe nobody is leaking anything - or is it just dull ?
From what I'm making this up as I need attention: the spfl argument is that hearts by the spfl articles have to go to the SFA before they can go to the courts. Seems like they are trying to use a technicality to get it threw out. Seems pointless because hearts will just apply for the interdict. We will then waste time as they go through the sfa procedure and end up back in the same place 1 month from now
The SFA now has Mike Mulreany as stand in President. He and his club have been very vocal supporters of the SPFL and critics of the 2 clubs. Surely no judge could think an organisation with him at the top could be impartial.
Battle Fever's On
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Which is the real reason for the shift in SFA President.
Carsons Army
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listening now
yep but it seems a short term fix for the spfl . If hearts get the interdict then everyone’s raging . The sfa talks go no where and we end up in court in 3 weeks time at the same stage. The spfl seem to just be kicking the can down the road maybe in hope hearts and thistle can’t afford extra legal costs and will come to the table
noucamp72
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Regardless of what evidence you present,trying to overcome courtroom bias in this country is almost impossible.
Dave570
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Or the Government doing an enquiry into child abuse in Scotland but not covering the Catholic Church or Celtic. That is like going out to chop down trees without going into the woods.
listening in.
i think this is headed for SFA arbitration.
hearts and partick will be shafted again at the arbitration.
then one of two things happen:
1. they either accept it at that point (they will be urged to accept it by the media and other complicit clubs to save clubs and jobs, essentially they will be martyrs)
2. it goes back to the court of session as arbitration has failed or it goes to the court of arbitration for sport.
i think this is headed for SFA arbitration.
hearts and partick will be shafted again at the arbitration.
then one of two things happen:
1. they either accept it at that point (they will be urged to accept it by the media and other complicit clubs to save clubs and jobs, essentially they will be martyrs)
2. it goes back to the court of session as arbitration has failed or it goes to the court of arbitration for sport.
Carlton The Bear
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What about this vote by clubs to allow the SPFL board to make executive “emergency powers” decisions? Cause that’s the game plan.... get the court to delay, push back to mediation and then impose restructuring to keep Hearts and Thistle up.
How that lets Brechin off the hook will then remain to be seen if the lower league situation kicks up a spanner.
How that lets Brechin off the hook will then remain to be seen if the lower league situation kicks up a spanner.
Carsons Army
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had enough, boring.
