Idiots within our travelling support - what do we do?

CooperBlu11 said:
Every team has the same problem. It's very difficult to control unless the other fans start dishing out their own law and order.
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Few seasons ago, Isma Goncalves was getting racist abuse from someone (or more than one) at the far end of the main stand, i won’t repeat what was said. Bit of commotion then 3 guys got escorted out; someone had stood up and shouted them down whilst myself and a few others gave it ‘shut the %^*& up lady's front bottom’. Shortly after Isma left the club, he gave an interview to a foreign paper and said he had been racially abused, bringing much shame to our support. I have also heard Marvin Bartley called a black this and that at Tynecastle.

Point I’m making is, and in agreement with you, whilst there is potentially at times an onus on supporters to self-police, you can’t equate for someone just being an ignorant moron. The media and other such outlets, depending on their agenda, can then tar as many in the crowd with the same brush if they choose. I might have been able to read about ‘racist Hearts fans’ and know that I’m not, and the majority are not, but I’m still ashamed of it.
 
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These wee pond life barstewards exist at all of the major football clubs and more. In respect of Rangers many of them could do with a history lesson regarding our own disaster at Ibrox 1971. Whether they would have the intelligence or wherewithal to mentally digest it is another question.

99.7% of Liverpool and Rangers fans will see the genuine mutual respect and decency where fans of both clubs died in horrific circumstances.

I was really impressed by the tremendous gesture of Rangers through GvB and James Tavernier laying a wreath in memory of the Liverpool fans killed in the Hillsborough disaster. Unfortunate to share a common bond in two tragic disasters involving fans (Ibrox Disaster, 1971) at the monument at Anfield. Both clubs recognise the tragedies with great respect and remembrance. I am sure this will be reciprocated by Liverpool next Wednesday.
 
Xtal said:
I don’t think there’s anything you can do to change people who support Rangers of all clubs and then think Hillsborough is funny.

Would be great if Rangers fans could sing nothing but songs about a team from Glasgow called Rangers.
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Never understood it myself. Fwiw Liverpool fans themselves were STILL singing about Munich to Man Utd fans long after Hillsborough. No idea if that still goes on but, I sincerely hope not.

Moronic in the extreme.
 
ElBuffalo20 said:
First of all I think 95% of our travelling support are outstanding and travelling in numbers second to none. But last night witnessed a few things that you just can't defend.

Prior to kick off boy near corner of stand closest to their main stand holding up his phone towards their fans with The Sun on it.

Then shouted about Hillsborough. This wasn't one off either as I witnesses another half a dozen similar comments. Before anyone asks why I didn't confront them it's pointless. These people have no idea of common decency.

We of all fan bases have had horrific moments in our past so to mock a disaster is f*cking braind dead behaviour.

On top of this the trouble outside before the game with fans charging the turnstyles without tickets. I understand people are gutted at not having a ticket but matter of time before we end up punished again by UEFA with sanctions.

This seems increasingly common with our travelling support. I don't want this to be a thread that sees our fans criticised constantly as I'm always so proud to be part of our incredible travelling support but we have a minority who constantly let us down.

By the way Liverpool fans were far from innocent but in all honesty our fans are my only concern moving forward.
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It’s sickening and part of the morale decline in our society , the days when these were individuals hounded out by self policing from decent supporters are fast vanishing as there seems to be a growing element of this trash going to matches
 
Putting a sun logo on a phone is wank behaviour but hardly the worst crime in the world. Ffs I can hardly see what's on my phone from 12 inches away so doubt it would cause much of an issue.
Anyone shouting anything about Hillsborough needs banned from Ibrox for life and re-educated in a firm manner.
 
Mview83 said:
I saw a guy get slapped in our end after shouting something about Hillsborough.
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Definitely a different type of supporter on Euro nights.
As you said 95% of our fans are outstanding and need to self police these morons.
Done it several times home and away.
Appreciate it may be easier for me as I am a bigger lad, but eventually these morons actions will see the club reputation badly damaged and eventually hammered by UEFA .
 
Blue Lou Boyle said:
Just googled it myself.

Fu.ck me thats grim.

Maybe im too sensitive in my older age but i simple dont get how anyone can shout about that poor guy.

Deranged.
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I wouldnt feel that sorry for him as according to the NI media him and his gang were flooding Belfast with drugs, still you are correct in that what has it got to do with us and a football match.
 
bar72bear lm said:
Another thing that I can’t be doing with is the whole ‘ ultras’ scene. It’s most probably an age thing on my part and I do think they try to create an atmosphere but they have become so self entitled and it’s causing genuine tension at away games
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Love the UBs but banging that drum to loyalist/Rangers songs is as tin pot as it comes.
And whatever you do don’t criticise the display last night.
 
ElBuffalo20 said:
Moronic to say the least given our own tragedy. Can't understand the mindset
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The reality is we have an element of utter arseholes that think they’re the top dogs as they get coked up, have a following on Twitter and think it makes them look cool as feck.

Wee arseholes that probably only started following us at games when Gerrard turned us around and think they’re staunch for shouting about the Pope etc.

It’s not just youngsters though. You still see guys in their 30’s too acting like cunts albeit mostly outside of stadiums. Guys that have never grown up.
 
Bluebeard said:
The club know who Most tickets are sold to. Names, addresses, the lot. Time to get tough and ban them sin die from going to our games.

If anyone there shouted about hillsbrough they are not bears they are a disgrace and I hope they are caught, shamed and have their books removed and their bosses informed about how sick an individual they are. Absolute dregs of humanity of the rumours are true and it seems they are with some eye witnesses on here who seen it first hand.
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If they are not bears why they in amongst the bears
Interesting theory Mr bear cub
 
ElBuffalo20 said:
Yeah guy just a couple of rows behind our wheelchair supporters wouldn't stop shouting about Hillsborough, murderers and you killed your own fans bla bla.

Then complained to stewards when Liverpool fans reacted.
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You should have videoed him posted it up to YouTube and shamed the prick
 
Unfortunately fans being knobs won't change, every single club has that element within them it's not nice but it's not new either. Our fans just seem to get highlighted more than others tho so we should be on our best behaviour when cameras are about.
 
When we played Man Utd in the Champions league a few years back we had fans trying to get the Munich Disaster song started.
Even pointing it out to them that we had a terrible disaster at Ibrox made not a bit of difference.
We most certainly have an element of mindless morons in our support.
 
Callum3657 said:
Wee neds are full of shock jock ‘patter’ these days.
It’s utterly tragic and a lot of what’s wrong with Scotland and the UK.

People that think they are beyond criticism because 3/4,000 of similar little twats follow them on Twitter and think it’s hilarious.

Sadly it’s an issue with every club, every city.
Scunnered with people tbh.

Add to that a couple of songs clear as day on the TV last night.
I’m amazed it’s not been picked up by the media and landing us in hot water yet.
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Songs are debatable amongst the support but baiting opposition fans about a tragedy is abhorent under any circumstances.
 
Always dead against any suggestion of it but the more and more arseholes we are now seeing on Ibrox European nights and away games is becoming a pain in the arse

These bangers don’t give a toss about the club as long as they’re pished and full of coke

If the club came out and stated they were sending some in amongst our ends camera’s up I wouldn’t be against it anymore. If it weeds out and results in bans for the arseholes then it would benefit our fans and the club as a whole.

Still can’t believe after the partial stand closures that we still have halfwits singing TBB in European games. I won’t pretend I’ve never sung it. Love the song and it’s annoying we can no longer sing it in Europe especially as years gone by it was always belted out during the anthem.

But if we cop any uefa sanctions due to it then I’d be fully in favour of the club requesting CCTV footage from Liverpool and identifying as many as possible that sang it to start issuing bans. Seems it’s the only way we might put an end to it.

Earlier at the USG game I think it was, TBB was belted out for a short spell too and luckily we escaped any sanctions.

Domestically no issues with TBB but European games it’s suicidal.
 
Delboy Trotter said:
Always dead against any suggestion of it but the more and more arseholes we are now seeing on Ibrox European nights and away games is becoming a pain in the arse

These bangers don’t give a toss about the club as long as they’re pished and full of coke

If the club came out and stated they were sending some in amongst our ends camera’s up I wouldn’t be against it anymore. If it weeds out and results in bans for the arseholes then it would benefit our fans and the club as a whole.

Still can’t believe after the partial stand closures that we still have halfwits singing TBB in European games. I won’t pretend I’ve never sung it. Love the song and it’s annoying we can no longer sing it in Europe especially as years gone by it was always belted out during the anthem.

But if we cop any uefa sanctions due to it then I’d be fully in favour of the club requesting CCTV footage from Liverpool and identifying as many as possible that sang it to start issuing bans. Seems it’s the only way we might put an end to it.

Earlier at the USG game I think it was, TBB was belted out for a short spell too and luckily we escaped any sanctions.

Domestically no issues with TBB but European games it’s suicidal.
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Aye and that’ll end well won’t it?

People have said earlier there was some self-policing, leave it at that. No need for people videoing stuff to grass on others
 
PT98 said:
So it isn't only non season ticket holding fans that behave like bellends.

Another FF myth busted
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It’s not an FF myth one way or the other.

People tend to have a habit when in Know It All mode of claiming that the website has a view which only they are brave enough to stand against.

Nine times out of ten it’s a load of wank.
 
SimonLeBon said:
I wouldnt feel that sorry for him as according to the NI media him and his gang were flooding Belfast with drugs, still you are correct in that what has it got to do with us and a football match.
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You’ve got your Sean’s mixed up, Simon.

Sean Cox was a Liverpool fan attacked by Roma fans and left in a coma.

Sean Fox was a Belfast drug dealer shot at the weekend.
 
There’s nothing we can do. We come from a city loaded with high concentration of pond life so it’s inevitable some of those dregs will attach themselves to us.
 
Delboy Trotter said:
Always dead against any suggestion of it but the more and more arseholes we are now seeing on Ibrox European nights and away games is becoming a pain in the arse

These bangers don’t give a toss about the club as long as they’re pished and full of coke

If the club came out and stated they were sending some in amongst our ends camera’s up I wouldn’t be against it anymore. If it weeds out and results in bans for the arseholes then it would benefit our fans and the club as a whole.

Still can’t believe after the partial stand closures that we still have halfwits singing TBB in European games. I won’t pretend I’ve never sung it. Love the song and it’s annoying we can no longer sing it in Europe especially as years gone by it was always belted out during the anthem.

But if we cop any uefa sanctions due to it then I’d be fully in favour of the club requesting CCTV footage from Liverpool and identifying as many as possible that sang it to start issuing bans. Seems it’s the only way we might put an end to it.

Earlier at the USG game I think it was, TBB was belted out for a short spell too and luckily we escaped any sanctions.

Domestically no issues with TBB but European games it’s suicidal.
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Worse than tims. I'm not sure how people who still sing that song, whilst fully aware of the consequences it could bring to the club, can class themselves as Rangers supporters?
 
Crown_Defender said:
Yeah mate, I'm not claiming otherwise. Was more a point about the mindset of fans who do it. Mind boggling really.
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It’s strange,I started going to games every week in the 82/83,the songs about Munich stopped around 91 when we started to mark the Ibrox disaster at the first home game of the year.before that I can’t remember the disaster being marked with a silence etc.this sounds awful but it’s not meant to be,it didn’t seem to be on a lot of our supporters minds but by the time we got to 1991 and the 20th anniversary.it all changed for the good I may say and we remembered the 66 properly
 
Blue Lou Boyle said:
Just googled it myself.

Fu.ck me thats grim.

Maybe im too sensitive in my older age but i simple dont get how anyone can shout about that poor guy.

Deranged.
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If they can be seen Cleary, get them identified, named and told to fuuk right off from Ibrox or following us.

It's harder at away games as we don't have a Herr Hood now.

Mibbees it's time to recruit someone or two similar.
 
Aww Skew said:
Aye and that’ll end well won’t it?

People have said earlier there was some self-policing, leave it at that. No need for people videoing stuff to grass on others
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How often is there self policing though?

If we’re being totally honest, if there’s a group of pished and coked up roasters usually most folk will avoid them.

Seen many incidents over the decades, probably more recently, of tits doing stupid things and quite frankly 99% of the time there’s no self policing as it’s usually groups sat together with the nonsense.

As I said, it’s something I’ve always been against but if it’s that or the club being at risk every 1 in 3/4/5 European games of TBB being sung then the club come first and should take whatever action they deem necessary to weed out the idiots.
 
Angrybluebear said:
Sorry to be pedantic but You mentioned 7 idiots. We had 2,600 approx there so it’s less than 0.3% not 5%.

I’ll be honest here the victims of Hillsborough disrespected the victims of another disaster. Shouting up the ra before the minutes silence was over. That is what all the headlines should be about. Not about some coke/drink filled arseholes who attach themselves to us.
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Maybe the guy who shouted ‘Up The Ra’ was a Coke/drink filled arsehole at the wind up.
 
There was also some dodgy singing after the match. I hope Fare weren't there as we had a partial closure for something similar a few years ago. On the whole our fans were great though.
 
Sheep are easily led and I imagine anyone indulging in bating Liverpool fans with this behaviour will not have matured enough to understand their lack of dignity or respect.

Sadly this is the evolving world we live in.
 
Delboy Trotter said:
How often is there self policing though?

If we’re being totally honest, if there’s a group of pished and coked up roasters usually most folk will avoid them.

Seen many incidents over the decades, probably more recently, of tits doing stupid things and quite frankly 99% of the time there’s no self policing as it’s usually groups sat together with the nonsense.

As I said, it’s something I’ve always been against but if it’s that or the club being at risk every 1 in 3/4/5 European games of TBB being sung then the club come first and should take whatever action they deem necessary to weed out the idiots.
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So your idea is to fire someone close to them with a camera and put themselves in danger (if that’s what you’re implying is preventing self policing?
 
Angrybluebear said:
Sorry to be pedantic but You mentioned 7 idiots. We had 2,600 approx there so it’s less than 0.3% not 5%.

I’ll be honest here the victims of Hillsborough disrespected the victims of another disaster. Shouting up the ra before the minutes silence was over. That is what all the headlines should be about. Not about some coke/drink filled arseholes who attach themselves to us.
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He probably didn’t meet every single bear at the game to be fair… but I agree with your point it’s a smaller percentage than 5
 
Dylanbear said:
Really disappointed in hearing some of our fans were mocking the Hillsborough disaster, They’ll be the same idiots that get raging at other fans for mocking our own disaster, Fucking arseholes deserve a good boot in the balls.
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Exactly. Those saying we should downplay it and “these things happen”. Were you saying the same when a group of Dundee United fans disrespected the Queen’s minute silence or the teenager in the Aberdeen end who held up “66 haha” on his phone…

Too many absolute morons at the football. Looking for cheap point scoring and getting under the others fans skin. Pathetic behaviour.
 
nelster said:
See “away end was rubbish” thread

Go search for it.
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The away end was rubbish. That doesn’t mean that a certain group should get given hundreds of tickets. Ibrox can be pish at times too

I don’t see how people pointing out the atmosphere is shit somehow relates to they should be given free reign for tickets?
 
JamboReid1874 said:
Few seasons ago, Isma was getting racist abuse from someone (or more than one) at the far end of the main stand, i won’t repeat what was said. Bit of commotion then 3 guys got escorted out; someone had stood up and shouted them down whilst myself and a few others gave it ‘shut the %^*& up lady's front bottom’. Shortly after Isma left the club, he gave an interview to a foreign paper and said he had been racially abused, bringing much shame to our support. I have also heard Marvin Bartley called a black this and that at Tynecastle.

Point I’m making is, and in agreement with you, whilst there is potentially at times an onus on supporters to self-police, you can’t equate for someone just being an ignorant moron. The media and other such outlets, depending on their agenda, can then tar as many in the crowd with the same brush if they choose. I might have been able to read about ‘racist Hearts fans’ and know that I’m not, and the majority are not, but I’m still ashamed of it.
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I'm having a complete memory blank here (happens more and more as I age!) but who the feck is Isma??
 
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