Neil Findlay MSP poses questions about the Rangers v Leverkusen match

Drumchapel-Bear said:
Their handling of the whole virus outbreak has been utterly scandalous yet she has 80% plus approval rating for doing a good job.

Scotland is f*cked. The country we all grew up in is gone.
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Who did they ask about approval though? Who are these people, nobody ever asks me.

Going by the people I've met shes anything but, neithers boris to be fair.
 
Both me and my dad had purchased tickets at over £40 but decided not to go.

Bad enough fans from a German "hotspot" attending, we were displaced from our seats in club deck and allocated nearby to make way for an allocation to away supporters, so they would be actively mingling amongst the Rangers support.

Seeing how things were going at the time I was pleased Rangers banked around £2m for the match but thought, in the circumstances, it was crazy it going ahead.

We had already made the decision not to attend the scum game that was to follow at the weekend, the one that our not so clever, but can't do anything wrong with the "Braveheats", First Minister, had thought should go ahead.
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
Their handling of the whole virus outbreak has been utterly scandalous yet she has 80% plus approval rating for doing a good job.

Scotland is f*cked. The country we all grew up in is gone.
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The survey was only 1006 people mate or so I,m lead to belive.so it hardly represents the whole country also it really depends on who is being asked the question if it's a snp voter then they will say she is doing a good job no matter what.
 
Renfrew@UKGB&NI said:
Who did they ask about approval though? Who are these people, nobody ever asks me.

Going by the people I've met shes anything but, neithers boris to be fair.
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Nats will be infiltrating the polls and that's why all polls have a margin of error but most polls generally aren't out by too much. It's a bit of a myth that polls are never wrong, they are generally within a small margin of being correct on most occasions when it comes to elections etc.
 
Toproadloyal said:
They think they can link 41 deaths to the Liverpool game and 37 to the Cheltenham festival.
Probably similar figures to our game.
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Think is the main word, you could just say guess how many, because that's the bottom line. Think and maybe are much used words in this whole thing.
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
Nats will be infiltrating the polls and that's why all polls have a margin of error but most polls generally aren't out by too much. It's a bit of a myth that polls are never wrong, they are generally within a small margin of being correct on most occasions when it comes to elections etc.
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The best polls are exit ones. My god we even had a poll saying corbyn was closing in on boris, when in fact he was somewhere out in the atlantic.
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
Their handling of the whole virus outbreak has been utterly scandalous yet she has 80% plus approval rating for doing a good job.

Scotland is f*cked. The country we all grew up in is gone.
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All we can do is if you've not already done so, is get politically active. Organisations like Scotland in Union are apolitical if you have no affiliation with any political party.

Start chipping away at them and they'll erode. The more doing it the quicker it will happen.

Good to see more people asking questions of our match against Leverkusen.
 
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Livibear said:
I campaigned with him during the referendum in 2014.

He was as passionate and vocal as any No voter I met.

Too far to the left to win my vote, but a very good MSP nonetheless.
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That's great that you got to know him.

You'll know better than me, but I've always thought he comes across as principled.

He's a socialist, but seems the old school sort.. not the champaign neo-liberal type.
 
Jamie1873 said:
He's a good guy. Met him on many occasions and always asks the right questions.
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Fair enough, I’m good pals with his brother in law and the three of us had a day out. Very articulate and knowledgeable about politic, as you’d expect and an interesting guy. Just grated some of his comments about us, maybe I’m too sensitive. :oops: Someone posted he hates the SNP, so I’d be happy to meet up with him again on that basis alone. :D
 
Big X said:
Fair enough, I’m good pals with his brother in law and the three of us had a day out. Very articulate and knowledgeable about politic, as you’d expect and an interesting guy. Just grated some of his comments about us, maybe I’m too sensitive. :oops: Someone posted he hates the SNP, so I’d be happy to meet up with him again on that basis alone. :D
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He's a long time vociferous opponent of the SNP
 
tazzabear said:
UEFA don’t make the law though.
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Uefa insisted it went ahead,and as the uk was not in lockdown, liverpool and us ,didn't have the final say,,all the games that were off or behind closed doors,,the government of those countries insisted on the course of action, meaning uefa couldn't enforce their will
 
worcester bear said:
Didn’t Sturgeon initially state that the lockdown would occur the following Monday, after the Sunday OF game on 15th? Which is just as bizarre as the UK introducing quarantine measures from 8th June.

why wait??
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It was only once the English Premiership announcement on The Friday happened that the SPFL poodles thought we had no option but to do the same
 
I’m betting no one ‘sanctioned’ it, given lockdown rules were not in place yet. It’s suspicious that he is choosing to target that game specifically? I take his question is being asked of the government, but surely his point should be, Kwhy was lockdown in general not introduced earlier‘. Unless of course there is an agenda behind his question. Maybe there is trouble brewing with the fact we are technically still in Europe?
 
Valley Bluenose said:
I think there is evidence that establishes there was a spike in coronavirus cases after the Liverpool-Atletico game. Is there similar for Glasgow after the Leverkusen game? Given how well Germany has handled their own outbreak it would be interesting to see.
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That will have been covered up.
 
tottie beck said:
I’m betting no one ‘sanctioned’ it, given lockdown rules were not in place yet. It’s suspicious that he is choosing to target that game specifically? Surely his point is why was lockdown not introduced earlier.
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The decision wasn't Rangers to make. UEFA would have banned us if we had decided we didn't fancy it.

It is a legitimate question as to why the game went ahead. It's not directed at harming Rangers ffs. The game shouldn't have went ahead. Just like the Liverpool game shouldn't nor Cheltenham.

People's minds seemed to be absolutely fried in Scotland on all sides. Everything boils down to tribal politics by the looks of it
 
Haven't read through the comments but my 1st thought is what they trying to pin on us/make it our fault.
 
To be fair they are valid questions to be asked of Holyrood. I hope his next question is why Holyrood is not ordering an independent inquiry into the child abuse cover up currently ongoing at Scotland's 2nd biggest sporting institution and why their cabinet secretary for justice won't answer a single question about it from the electorate
 
250000 went to Cheltenham. You would think that would be far worse... Yet half were Irish and there rates seem far less than ours! I think there is far more to come out about who knew what and when. I can't wait till it's over and I can see the Rangers and, hopefully, never again hear the word 'unprecedented'
 
ElBarrileteCosmico said:
The decision wasn't Rangers to make. UEFA would have banned us if we had decided we didn't fancy it.

It is a legitimate question as to why the game went ahead. It's not directed at harming Rangers ffs. The game shouldn't have went ahead. Just like the Liverpool game shouldn't nor Cheltenham.

People's minds seemed to be absolutely fried in Scotland on all sides. Everything boils down to tribal politics by the looks of it
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It might be a legitimate question but in reality he’s asking why lockdown rules weren’t in place earlier. Hindsight’s a wonderful thing and this whole situation evolved really quickly. Unless a significant number of people at the game that night got sick then his question should really be about lockdown in general.
 
Withambear said:
As I understand ( and may be wrong) that the Valencia game was actually played in Milan as Atlanta’s ground was unsuitable.

Our game on the Thursday was only played on the agreement of the authorities but for some reason the following Sunday’s fame against them was called off the following day.

Not sure what changed overnight but timings did seem strange
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The announcement after our game of Mikel Arteta contracting it was the game changer.
 
Corriebear said:
His football allegiances are nothing to do with this. He’s asking the people responsible for allowing 50,000 fans to congregate in a stadium despite them knowing there was a highly contagious virus spreading within the population.

While UEFA hadn’t cancelled any games, the Spanish and Italian governments had both banned spectators from attending. Why didn’t the Scottish ‘government’ do similar is a question any semi competent opposition should be asking.
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Exactly. He is not having a dig at us. The game going ahead is nothing to do with us.

Incidentally I sit in CD5 and as is the norm on Euro nights about a couple of hundred opposition fans sit about 3 rows behind me with no seats left empty for segregation. At that time that part of Germany was highly infected.
 
BlueReddington said:
250000 went to Cheltenham. You would think that would be far worse... Yet half were Irish and there rates seem far less than ours! I think there is far more to come out about who knew what and when. I can't wait till it's over and I can see the Rangers and, hopefully, never again hear the word 'unprecedented'
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I think that you’ll find that the rate of infection in Southern Ireland is pretty high when calculated per million of population (per capita): https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
 
Virgil Hilts said:
For some bizarre the plastic / RC voted is cherished coveted.

Bizarre.
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It annoys me. Same story with the Muslim vote.

Is it because our community has been beaten down so much over the years that we don't see ourselves as a block with interests?

I genuinely think that if thousands joined the loyal orders, we'd see a shift in attitudes towards us as politicians would want our votes.

We can only hope.
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
Nats will be infiltrating the polls and that's why all polls have a margin of error but most polls generally aren't out by too much. It's a bit of a myth that polls are never wrong, they are generally within a small margin of being correct on most occasions when it comes to elections etc.
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99% of polls find an answer that suits the agenda of those who have commissioned the poll.
 
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