our stonewaller last night

[HMS.Temple.Garden]

Only seen it in the match thread so apologies if there is already thread, may be its lost in some of the disappointment about the end result.

Saying that, THAT handball appeal only got worse every time you seen it, especially in slo-mo.

What might have been but I've been taking this Europe run as a "whatever" its the results at the weekend that matter to me, but can't deny that I've been disappointed not seeing out those two games, we are good enough, just probably undone by genuine individual qualities in the end and saying undone makes it sound like we were horsed and it really isn't the case.

Really enjoyed us this season, long may it continue.

 

[BlueHaze]

Stonewaller that the linesman was right in line with and decides nothing to see here move on.

Cvnt.

 

[Beswgers]

Abysmal officiating. Would have been interesting to see how things would have planned out if we'd scored again at that stage.

 

[WinkieWATP]

Why is there no VAR when it was used last season in the group stages? I also think Vertonghen gets sent off if it was in place

aboth incidents ten yards in front of the main stand lino

 

[blueismycolour]

Penalty all day long. We had the opportunities in both games though, to put the results beyond Benfica and paid the price. Still in a fantastic position, so everything to play for, regardless of how disappointing the last 2 euro games have been.

 

[Balogun1]

Stonewaller that the linesman was right in line with and decides nothing to see here move on.

Cvnt.

Yes, an inexplicable and unacceptable decision. There should be VAR in the Europa League now. We should be leading the calls for it. I liked Gerrard’s insistent manner that it was a penalty. No beating about the bush in an apologetic manner.

 

[Balogun1]

Why is there no VAR when it was used last season in the group stages? I also think Vertonghen gets sent off if it was in place

Knock out stages only last year.

 

[Main Stand]

Why is there no VAR when it was used last season in the group stages? I also think Vertonghen gets sent off if it was in place

aboth incidents ten yards in front of the main stand lino

It wasn’t used till the knock outs, mate.

 

[PT98]

Stonewall penalty but who knows what difference it would've made to the outcome

 

[Sir Sidney Ruff Diamond]

100 per cent penalty. A few questionable decisions last night.

 

[WinkieWATP]

Knock out stages only last year.

It wasn’t used till the knock outs, mate.

So is it the same again this season? Seems mental to me?

 

[Main Stand]

So is it the same again this season? Seems mental to me?

I imagine it will be aye, don’t quite get it myself. The qualifiers I could understand, but not having it in the EL itself seems odd.

 

[Gennaro_88]

It was the same lino on that side that got 4 or 5 blatant calls wrong. Horrific decision but not one I can say I was surprised about at all.

 

[WinkieWATP]

100 per cent penalty. A few questionable decisions last night.

All in the favour of Benfica. The handball, Vertonghen booting Alfie on the side of the head, the handball against Morelos when Vertonghen has two hands wrapped around Alfie the whole time

 

[crookie_bear]

Abysmal officiating. Would have been interesting to see how things would have planned out if we'd scored again at that stage.

If your aunty had balls and all that but if Kent scores the sitter he missed last time (off the post) and We get a penalty last night Benfica weren't coming back from 4-1 & 3-0 down respectively

 

[BlueHaze]

There was no need for VAR it was as clear a handball as you are ever likely to see,

 

[The_goalie]

Right in front of the linesman, how he couldn’t see it I don’t know

 

[steviered]

The defender actually held his arm after the ball hit it.

 

[The Lone Sniper]

Stonewall penalty but who knows what difference it would've made to the outcome

Well, we'd have won game.

 

[bluenosebazza]

It was as blatant as you get. He practically jabbed the ball out the air.

 

[Walkers Loyal]

Why is there no VAR when it was used last season in the group stages? I also think Vertonghen gets sent off if it was in place

aboth incidents ten yards in front of the main stand lino

Wasn’t used in the group stages last year mate. It was only from the knock out stages as we saw to our cost with the penalty given against us.

edit - probably should have read the whole thread before replying!

 

[WinkieWATP]

Well, we'd have won game.

Was it not before we went 2-0 up?

 

[monkey magic]

It was one of the worst decisions I've seen in a long time. No excuses not to award a penalty.

 

[Ruben Sosa]

Another reason why VAR is a good thing in my opinion.

No idea why this clown of a linesman would cheat, but he clearly saw an obvious handball and decided to ignore it for reasons unknown.

 

[cadge_1959]

I might be wrong, but I am sure our subs were going crazy at the linesman, also sure Hagi was one of them. Given that the officials were Romanian, he would have given him a mouthful.

 

[Bigbluebear]

It was 100% a penalty however it was 1-0 when it happened, so vastly different impact on the outcome of the game than if we were already 2 up when it happened.

We might have missed and lost 2-1, or we might have scored and went on and won 4-0, who knows. The rest of the game wouldn't have played out as it did last night had it been given.

 

[Bigbluebear]

Was it not before we went 2-0 up?

Yes, about 6 or 7 minutes before.

 

[Kirbys House]

UEFA trying to save cash in not using VAR in the group stage?

Clear penalty & the same guy later ignored a foul on Tav right in front of him.

 

[Crown_Defender]

Only seen it in the match thread so apologies if there is already thread, may be its lost in some of the disappointment about the end result.

Saying that, THAT handball appeal only got worse every time you seen it, especially in slo-mo.

What might have been but I've been taking this Europe run as a "whatever" its the results at the weekend that matter to me, but can't deny that I've been disappointed not seeing out those two games, we are good enough, just probably undone by genuine individual qualities in the end and saying undone makes it sound like we were horsed and it really isn't the case.

Really enjoyed us this season, long may it continue.

It was a shocker, as you say it's an easy one for the AR. As an aside, if this had happened in a league game, the thread on this would be at ten pages by now. We've been on the end of some absolutely horrendous decisions in the Europa League the past three seasons, and that was with us having one of the (supposedly) top refs last year.

We don't 'know' they are Tims though, so no one really minds

 

[PT98]

Well, we'd have won game.

Based on what? We went 2 nil up and still never won. If we get the penalty it totally changes how the rest of the game pans out. Roofe wouldn't even have scored the goal he did.

 

[RFCGTC]

The linesman running up the line like Mr.Bean suggests everything we need to know! Absolutely hopeless he missed that penalty.

 

[scottm]

All in the favour of Benfica. The handball, Vertonghen booting Alfie on the side of the head, the handball against Morelos when Vertonghen has two hands wrapped around Alfie the whole time

He also missed a blatant foul on Tav right in front of him.

 

[tazzabear]

Abysmal officiating. Would have been interesting to see how things would have planned out if we'd scored again at that stage.

The score was 1-0 at the time, we still were to score our second.

 

[The Lone Sniper]

Based on what? We went 2 nil up and still never won. If we score get the penalty it totally changes how the rest of the game pans out. Roofe wouldn't even have scored the goal he did.

Then how do you know they'd have scored two?

 

[Barrymoped]

It was a shocker of a decision.

The type that had it happened in a domestic game there would be 6 threads about whoever the ref was being a cheat, a stealth 19th Century Terrorist, in Lawells back pocket etc etc.

 

[Balogun1]

Stonewall penalty but who knows what difference it would've made to the outcome

It would most likely have given us another goal and would have put Vertongen on a yellow, perhaps leading to a red later when he was carded? Failing that, he would have been frightened to tackle, giving us an advantage.

 

[PT98]

Then how do you know they'd have scored two?

I don't remember saying I did know they would score 2?

 

[Div1872]

Why don’t UEFA use VAR in the group stages ?

If they use in knockouts so why can’t they use it in group stage games?

 

[Orange Peel]

Stonewall penalty but who knows what difference it would've made to the outcome

Correct mate. Would have made it 2-0 if I remember correctly and not 3-0.

 

[Arkansasgerstill]

It proves that all referees are prone to inexcusable and inexplicable mistakes. They are not bent, corrupt or in Celtic’s pocket, just diabolical, and due the ridicule they receive. What they never get is demoted for these dreadful errors, and they should.

 

[Smkz23]

Why don’t UEFA use VAR in the group stages ?

If they use in knockouts so why can’t they use it in group stage games?

Because of COVID protocols due to the number of personnel that would be needed to run it in the group stages.

 

[Graemeh89]

Why is there no VAR when it was used last season in the group stages? I also think Vertonghen gets sent off if it was in place

aboth incidents ten yards in front of the main stand lino

It wasn’t used in the group stages last season just knockouts mate.

Edit - apologies , already been a answered

 

[Graemeh89]

Because of COVID protocols due to the number of personnel that would be needed to run it in the group stages.

Was it ever due to be used in the EL group stages ? Sure it’s just knockout for Europa and not to do with Covid.

 

[Discombob]

Same "assistant ref" should have helped the ref with the boot above the shoulders on Morelos (Vertongen?) and the clip of Tav on a breakaway (was that Vertongen, too?).

If he offers no advice to the ref on the handball plus these two, what's he there for?

 

[Cooperfan]

I would have liked him to tell us why but officials are like God. They answer to no one.

 

[chosen few]

Vertonghen had guilt written all over his face

 

[insanicdrunk]

The defender actually held his arm after the ball hit it.

Said the same last night how obvious could you get, the shot hurt his hand/wrist and he's holding it ffs!

On a side note, the linesman had a strange run about him!

 

[The_Irrepressibles]

We had quite a few poor decisions go against us. The stonewall penalty. Same player (Verhongen) later scissor-kicked Aflie in the face, somehow only a yellow. Probably deserved red, and if he's been booked for handball earlier he's have been off either way. Offside against Roofe that wasn't. And Alfie penalised for perfectly good challenge. There were a few tackles from the back that didn't draw yellows too.

 

[Deleted member 125]

The "big" teams get much more favourable calls in UEFA competitions.

It's suspicious as funk and it wouldn't surprise me if it was a UEFA directive to ensure that TV companies get their lucrative, big name finals.

Unfortunately by most modern metrics, Benfica were the "big" team last night.

 

[Mr tangerineman]

Can't believe the number on here bleating about var, it is the worst thing to happen to football in the 50 odd years I've been watching it