o7o
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Kent Aribo n Kamara and a few others. However, Patts is up there.
Patterson is easily the most talented player we have
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Chris the Bandito
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I’ve never been a fan of 3 at the back as it usually just means you don’t have 2 good enough centre backs but with a new manager coming in it makes sense to look at some variant of the system Scotland play with Tierney/ Robertson at least as a variant to change things up.
We could actually do it both sides some games with Bassey inside Barisic as well.
If you look at our squad we’ve got a lot of players who would be natural fits for that system with an offensive and more defensive option at each position. Helander, Goldson, Balogun would be a strong defensive alternative for tougher games whilst Aribo or Arfield could be more aggressive options as 8s.
We could still play the 2 tens if we went solid (Jack / Kamara) in midfield which would still allow us to fit Kent in. Or we could play Hagi as a passing ten centrally behind a front 2 and still with up to 4 options running wide beyond him as a way to break teams down.
Again a more solid alternative would be 3 in cm with Davis instead of one of the front 3 which manages his workload
We could actually do it both sides some games with Bassey inside Barisic as well.
If you look at our squad we’ve got a lot of players who would be natural fits for that system with an offensive and more defensive option at each position. Helander, Goldson, Balogun would be a strong defensive alternative for tougher games whilst Aribo or Arfield could be more aggressive options as 8s.
We could still play the 2 tens if we went solid (Jack / Kamara) in midfield which would still allow us to fit Kent in. Or we could play Hagi as a passing ten centrally behind a front 2 and still with up to 4 options running wide beyond him as a way to break teams down.
Again a more solid alternative would be 3 in cm with Davis instead of one of the front 3 which manages his workload
RaskolnikovBear
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I think we have more talented players at the moment but Pattersons ceiling is probably the highest of them all. He has the capabilities to reach levels most dont. Recency bias maybe.
SimonLeBon
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Gerrard will sign Nathan.
Fitba*Daft
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Don't want this to come across the wrong way but I would sell Tav before I would sell Nathan P.
Football is big business and Tav's value will decline from now on and selling him, or trying to sell him when he is decline would be a waste.
Selling N.P. in the next few months and keeping Tav, hoping he will be at his current level for 3 or 4 more years is wishful thinking.
We would obviously lose Tav's experience and leadership but I think selling Tav would be sensible business decision and allow N.P. to play every week and improve much quicker than warming the bench.
It could possibly be rough in the beginning while N.P. gains experience but I think it would pay off in the long run. He is a very talented young lad and deserves to wear a blue jersey in Glasgow for many years to come.
Football is big business and Tav's value will decline from now on and selling him, or trying to sell him when he is decline would be a waste.
Selling N.P. in the next few months and keeping Tav, hoping he will be at his current level for 3 or 4 more years is wishful thinking.
We would obviously lose Tav's experience and leadership but I think selling Tav would be sensible business decision and allow N.P. to play every week and improve much quicker than warming the bench.
It could possibly be rough in the beginning while N.P. gains experience but I think it would pay off in the long run. He is a very talented young lad and deserves to wear a blue jersey in Glasgow for many years to come.
I do wonder if it's at all feasible to play one of the two in midfield, probably Patterson for his energy.
I realise you're then sort of trying to put a square block in a round hole but with the midfield lacking a bit at times this season just a quandary?
Arfield back should hopefully help right enough.
Bangersbc
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If the "we" is Scotland. I agree. He has had far greater influence than Robertson or gilmour the last couple of games, and his assists have dragged us into 2nd place in the group.
Rangers though? He's good. He's very good. But Tav, Borna, Kent, Aribo, Hagi, Kamara are all probably more talented at present. Nathan has youth on his side and with that big potential though.
I have no interest in increasing his value though at present. I wanna keep this boy and enjoy him for many more years.
Dogbert
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This is worthy of consideration for me, he does great work going forward and has the range to cover in a mid three.
All options should be tried as we've lacked spark and incisive movement on most of our games.
bealeloyal
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I was never good at English at school.
Problem is, football is a short career, and can become even shorter with an injury. I can’t blame any player if they get tempted by better pay. Probably best though for his career to stay here for at least a couple more years so he doesn’t become a waste and have his career stall at club like everton.
Poster boy? Is he NP your poster boy wee man?
barcelonabear
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Potential to play at highest level possibly, most talented no
Grouse
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You think? Didn’t seem that keen to give him much time on the pitch. Even from the bench.
Personally hoping the upside of Gerrard leaving is we see more of Nathan
Sir Know it All
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Needs to start playing against proper football teams to form a true assessment of his ceiling
Tav would look like a rockstar playing sides like Molodva and The Faroes, not to say Patterson isn’t talented but the OP is just idiotic nonsense as per
Tav would look like a rockstar playing sides like Molodva and The Faroes, not to say Patterson isn’t talented but the OP is just idiotic nonsense as per
347golfer
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If an EPL team waves a £40,000 a week contract in NP's face then everything you wrote is irrelevant.
The first team to offer us substantial hard cash upfront not all the add-ons pish that are in favour now then he'll be off whether we like it or not.
prenzlauerbear
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John McGinn on Nathan Patterson:
“He is a top player. Like a young Alan Hutton galloping up and down the wing.
“Best part about him is he is some boy. Confident but humble.
“Wants to learn, wants to get better, still raw but he has been a huge, huge part of our success.”
“He is a top player. Like a young Alan Hutton galloping up and down the wing.
“Best part about him is he is some boy. Confident but humble.
“Wants to learn, wants to get better, still raw but he has been a huge, huge part of our success.”
Thornliebank_Bear
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You mean you need to see him on sky having signed for a top top top epl side and managed by a top top manager, even then it depends what gary, jamie, and roy say in the studio about his performance.
And while i hate the whole aye but what about Tav carry on, we dont seem to mind giving our captain plenty of credit for playing well against Ross or Dundee. Not exactly much better sides than the teams Scotland are up against.
SergioPorrini
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New manager, fresh start, new right back possibly. I love how direct and fearless he is.
SimonLeBon
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Method in his madness.
Rev Paisley
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Apologies for my grammar policing, I’m a smartarse at the best of times and worse after a drink! That’ll account for the number of sore faces I’ve had!
waldo 1160
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He is not the most talented, but definitely has the most potential. I think SG will come in for him.
Moreloslaces
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Great player, not better than Kent or Hagi for me.
baystatebear
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That is as sure as night follows day. We should all prepare for a double bid coming in from Villa for both Patterson and Kent during the winter window.
granda bob
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Hahaha thanks big man I knew someone like you would be along sooner or later, I could say so much but its best summed up with I rest my case.
Malcolm Tucker 37
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OP that was a ridiculous statement- clickbait? He’s a good young player but…..
Sir Know it All
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Mate I watch him at Ibrox and support Rangers why would I give a %^*& about the EPL? I watched him against Israel about 20 yards from where I was sitting most of the half, I watch and go to loads of football
For Rangers he’s really only played Hibs and a turgid and half phoned in Celtic team and was ropey for a hell of a lot of the game, he needs to be seen against good SPL teams often to know how good he is, it’s hit and miss National teams at best so fa he’s playing, he’s literally hardly played for Rangers or Scotland to know how good actually he is.
He needs to play often before I can actually know how good he is, he’s barely played football against sides people watch often
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Scaramanga
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He played 5 or 6 league games last season and 4 in the Europa league. Do those teams not count? After all it’s the same teams Tav plays against.
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Coplandfrontier
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I hope Rangers get him signed onto a long contract, he was excellent last night for Scotland apart from penalty incident. The fact he has hardly played this season and produces that display he has a huge future in front of him.
Loyal & True
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Not read thread yet m8 but iam sure iam not only one to disagree, we have a few outstanding individual talents but as a full back I would agree he's certainly the best Scottish full back inc Andy Robertson & Biscuit Hips and id stick my neck out and claim one of the best full backs in the UK
Fitba*Daft
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Are you kidding me? That is a BIG if. Sell Tav ASAP, Keep N.P.
Blue Steel
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Yer kidding.
CaptainCourageous
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Wasnt long ago Scott Wright was better than Kent
Never.
RE; Patterson. A player the likes of Lampard or GvB will love. Tough job trying to get both into him and Tav into the team.
Sir Know it All
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5 or 6 league games…
He played 238 minutes of league football last season, about 2 and a half games, the 5 or 6 included coming on for 4 minutes and 20 minutes in games.
He’s played 90 minutes once in European group game for us.
He’s played 114 minutes of league football this season. One full game, that’s it
He’s not played much football for us at all, he’s incredibly raw and prone to some really rash errors as would be expected, but he’s made quite a lot of errors even in limited time on the park for both Scotland and Rangers. It’s if these will iron out his game or not, it’s very early to tell TBH, if the do then yes his ceiling is high. It’s not a dismissal of him, it’s just pointing out how little he’s actually played for us for people to make these definitive statements in relation to his talent, he looks promising yes, but he simply needs more football, it’s simply stating the obvious to say that.
exeterbear
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W
Sometimes Kent has shown great composure and sometimes he slashes at it and hits the corner flag. I'm not knocking him he has great energy, works hard for the team and makes things happen, but if he had the composure of Defoe he'd be playing in the EPL IMO obviously. No need for the talking pish bit . Why do people almost take it personal when you say something about one of our players , obviously if they were top drawer we would be fending off bids for them?They’ve both scored plenty of goals that involved more composure and skill than that finish tonight, at a much higher level.
I’m all for praising someone, but no need to talk pish to bring down his team mates or make him better than he is
