Premier League clubs to vote on proposal to scrap VAR from next season.

[Agent Harris]

Resolution formally submitted by Wolves to abolish system + will be on agenda at June 6 AGM. Any rule change needs 2/3s majority (14 of 20 members) to pass


OFFICIAL: letter sent to the Premier League regarding scrapping VAR.

"Wolves have formally submitted a resolution to the Premier League to trigger a vote at the league's AGM in June, on the removal of VAR from the start of the 2024/25 season.

The introduction of VAR in 2019/20 was a decision made in good faith and with the best interests of football and the Premier League at its heart. However, it has led to numerous unintended negative consequences that are damaging the relationship between fans and football, and undermining the value of the Premier League brand, which include:

• Impact on goal celebrations and the spontaneous passion that makes football special.

• Frustration and confusion inside stadiums due to lengthy VAR checks and poor communication.

•A more hostile atmosphere with protests, booing of the Premier League anthem and chants against VAR.

• Overreach of VAR's original purpose to correct clear and obvious mistakes, now overanalysing subjective decisions and compromising the game's fluidity and integrity.

• Diminished accountability of on-field officials, due to safety net of VAR, leading to an erosion of authority on the pitch.

• Continued errors despite VAR, with supporters unable to accept human error after multiple views and replays, damaging confidence in officiating standards.

• Disruption of the Premier League's fast pace with lengthy VAR checks and more added time, causing matches to run excessively long.

• Constant discourse about VAR decisions often overshadowing the match itself, and tarnishing the reputation of the league.

• Erosion of trust and reputation, with VAR fuelling completely nonsensical allegations of corruption.

The decision to table the resolution has come after careful consideration and with the utmost respect for the Premier League, PGMOL and our fellow competitors.

There is no blame to be placed - we are all just looking for the best possible outcome for football - and all stakeholders have been working hard to try and make the introduction of additional technology a success.

However, after five seasons of VAR in the Premier League it is time for a constructive and critical debate on its future.

Our position is that the price we are paying for a small increase in accuracy is at odds with the spirit of our game, and as a result we should remove it from the 2024/25 season onwards."

 

[Juice Prichard]

VAR is a good thing, but run badly.

 

[Galstonian Oranje]

Say it does get voted against. Imagine the uproar when wrong decisions are made and not corrected.

 

[Spart7]

It'll never pass

 

[JC85]

VAR is a good thing, but run badly.

Couldn't agree more.

It should only be used when the referee wants assistance or one of the teams want to challenge a decision.

 

[Borna Bear]

VAR is a good thing, but run badly.

As usual, first comment is correct.

 

[the_littlest_hobo]

VAR is a good thing, but run badly.

So it’s not a good thing then seeing as every league complains about it

 

[KingCarlos72]

Hmm it’s a hard one I have to say, it should be scrapped up here whilst half the teams can’t afford it and the actual angles of offside are impossible to draw their squiggly lines.

Can see it happening in both leagues now

 

[Bri RTID]

As usual, first comment is correct.

No it isn't

 

[kingwilliam]

VAR in it's current form is terrible, far too many wrong decisions, takes too long to come to the wrong decision.

 

[KingCarlos72]

It'll never pass

I think it will get passed, there aren’t many clubs who gain from it, and most will remember the bad calls against them!

Not that it matters but I wonder what the fans would vote for

 

[defender]

Couldn't agree more.

It should only be used when the referee wants assistance or one of the teams want to challenge a call.

Adopt the tennis thing where you change challenge 3 times during a match

 

[Bear all]

The thing is if they did away with VAR they would still use the technology when reviewing incidents in the studio also technology is always getting advanced.

 

[Earth Worm Jim]

Var is killing football, absolutely ruining it

 

[lovenkrands72]

Brilliant, can just imagine uproar when first player who is 2 yards offside doesn't get given. Astounds me how many people seem to have forgotten how bad refereeing was pre-VAR.

 

[JC85]

Adopt the tennis thing where you change challenge 3 times during a match

Yep. 3 might even be too much, 1 per half.

 

[Phil'ieve]

I'm old fashioned. Get rid of it. I know someone will be along to tell me how many times we'd have been disadvantaged if not for VAR but I just hate it. Not knowing if you can celebrate a goal and all the messing about it's absolutely awful and it's genuinely ruining what football should be. I'd be happy to deal with shite ref decisions to have football back.

 

[Bear all]

We would have benefited in the Scum games if there had been no VAR.

 

[lovenkrands72]

We would have benefited in the Scum games if there had been no VAR.

What about all the other games?

 

[HillsBill]

Couldn't agree more.

It should only be used when the referee wants assistance or one of the teams want to challenge a decision.

Spot on. Sports like tennis and cricket don't use replays to anything like the same extent with players allowed a certain number of challenges which they lose if the decision is correct. So, fewer referrals but I have to say some take longer than others.

 

[Bear all]

What about all the other games?

I said the Scum games .

 

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

Var is killing football, absolutely ruining it

We need VAR, we would never get a penalty without it.

 

[IbroxMainStand]

Used to stick up for VAR but can't be bothered with it anymore. Dessers goal being ruled out against them was nonsense.

 

[MrJonnyO]

Based purely on the fact that we have only received the vast majority of our penalties through the use of VAR, I really struggle to see why any Rangers fan would want it binned.
I don’t disagree, it is run poorly, that we undoubtably have a pound shop version and that the operators are significantly below the level they need to be for effective operation.
But even with the wrong calls being made on it, I’d be terrified what they might get away with, if it wasn’t there.

 

[Bear out west]

Adopt the tennis thing where you change challenge 3 times during a match

This is the way. Give the power back to the coaches/players to challenge

 

[Audubon Blue]

VAR is 21st century technology, adjudicating rules established in the 19th century.

We need to change the offside rule to allow more room for attacking players eg. whole foot has to be offside.

No more "toenail off sides."

 

[lovenkrands72]

I said the Scum games .

Fair enough, we will just ignore the fact we have benefitted more over the season than anyone other club. Just pick four games out.

 

[HillsBill]

So it’s not a good thing then seeing as every league complains about it

Usually only when decisions go against them

 

[Kingging]

It's not perfect. Nothing is. But it means fewer bad decisions stand. And it will only improve through time

 

[Bear all]

Fair enough, we will just ignore the fact we have benefitted more over the season than anyone other club. Just pick four games out.

Ok you do that .

 

[Kilwinnin Bluenose]

I'm old fashioned. Get rid of it. I know someone will be along to tell me how many times we'd have been disadvantaged if not for VAR but I just hate it. Not knowing if you can celebrate a goal and all the messing about it's absolutely awful and it's genuinely ruining what football should be. I'd be happy to deal with shite ref decisions to have football back.

We've not won a league with VAR so it can't be doing that much for us!

I'm in the get rid camp too.

 

[Beanzie]

I thought that from next season off-side decisions would be done automatically without any human involvement? If so it should speed things up a bit

 

[mossybear]

A rangers player would need to be halfed in two in the box to get a penalty if there is no VAR.

 

[El Bufalo]

We absolutely need var. About 75% of our penalties have been awarded by var this season.

 

[HillsBill]

VAR is 21st century technology, adjudication rules established in the 19th century.

We need to change the offside rule to allow more room for attacking player eg whole foot has to be offside.

No more "toenail off sides."

Yep, some of the lines I've seen can't possibly be correct to within an inch or two.

 

[Orange Peel]

I said the Scum games .

Yes and he asked what about the other games?

 

[Phil'ieve]

We'd have won this one if VAR never existed in the old firm games.

We've not won a league with VAR so it can't be doing that much for us!

I'm in the get rid camp too.

 

[Wazza]

VAR: Sweden only top league in Uefa's top 30 to reject technology

Sweden is the only elite league in Uefa's top 30 to not have VAR, BBC Sport went to find out how and why the supporters turned against it.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Jjbscotty]

Hope it gets binned it's a farce.

 

[GeeSpot]

Adopt the tennis thing where you change challenge 3 times during a match

Totally agree but it should be limited to 1x per half otherwise certain teams will be using it to break up play.

 

[GazzaG]

I'm old fashioned. Get rid of it. I know someone will be along to tell me how many times we'd have been disadvantaged if not for VAR but I just hate it. Not knowing if you can celebrate a goal and all the messing about it's absolutely awful and it's genuinely ruining what football should be. I'd be happy to deal with shite ref decisions to have football back.

You just celebrate the goal exactly like you did pre-VAR.

It's no different.

 

[Phil'ieve]

You just celebrate the goal exactly like you did pre-VAR.

It's no different.

It's quite different if you realise ten seconds later it was for fukkall

 

[Ten Ton Tony]

Anyone in an official capacity who votes to get rid of VAR should be blacklisted from the game.

 

[Bear all]

Yes and he asked what about the other games?

Yes and I had wanted to bring up
other games other than the Scum I would have .

 

[BrooklynBlue]

I'm old fashioned. Get rid of it. I know someone will be along to tell me how many times we'd have been disadvantaged if not for VAR but I just hate it. Not knowing if you can celebrate a goal and all the messing about it's absolutely awful and it's genuinely ruining what football should be. I'd be happy to deal with shite ref decisions to have football back.

I'd rather wait the extra time for confirmation of a goal than walking away from a Cup Final, for example, and finding out we'd lost to an offside goal.

What is it this season - 13 penalties out of 16 missed by the referee and only given due to VAR review?

 

[Phil'ieve]

I'd rather wait the extra time for confirmation of a goal than walking away from a Cup Final, for example, and finding out we'd lost to an offside goal.

What is it this season - 13 penalties out of 16 missed by the referee and only given due to VAR review?

No var in the old firm games and we won the league. You can look at it both ways. I hate what it does to a match experience so I want it gone.

 

[GazzaG]

It's quite different if you realise ten seconds later it was for fukkall

How is that any different to celebrating a goal then a linesman sticks his flag up?

 

[Johnny Yen]

Please, please, please bin it up here, single worst thing to hit football, it's killing it and completely ripping the soul from it.

 

[deBoersHeader]

Id keep it but it needs improved.

 

[Tpol_rfc]

So it’s not a good thing then seeing as every league complains about it

Every idiot in every league complains about it.

Clearly VAR gets a higher percentage of decisions correct. Only people of low intelligence would advocate going back to a system that allows more mistakes.