OnlyOneAmoruso
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Fired up an article today on the site looking at the squads strengths, weaknesses and some potential signings we could make.
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heads bursting reading thatFunnily enough, I was looking at our players earlier. I put them in (imho) the team i felt they should be in, so i have a 1st, 2nd and 3Rd squad.We play 4 3 3 which can become 4 2 3 1, 4 1 4 1 dependant on opposition. I have binned McRorie,Docherty, Jones and Barker to the 3rd team as I don't rate them. Not sure about Stewart
If our front 6 are a 3 3, 1 4 1 or 2 3 1 I see the following being 1st or 2nd pick (2 3 1 formation)
Jack and Davis/Kamara
Aribo, Hagi and Kent
Morelos
Our back up formation would be
Davis/Kamara and A N Other
A N Other, Arfield Murphy
A N Other
Defoe will be a back up against poorer opposition.
From this I think we need 3 players if we are to challenge
2 attacking midfielder's and a striker (2 if Morelos leaves)
That's a great article and a really well informed read. I don't agree with it all (that's fitba for ye) but is definetly worth your time reading.Fired up an article today on the site looking at the squads strengths, weaknesses and some potential signings we could make.
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That's a great article and a really well informed read. I don't agree with it all (that's fitba for ye) but is definetly worth your time reading.
thanks mate - that’s life! What parts we differing on?
Should be putting the word in to rangers about Weissman for sureFired up an article today on the site looking at the squads strengths, weaknesses and some potential signings we could make.
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How do people come up with these players? Surely they dont sit and watch every European League? I'm genuinely curious, because the suggestions seem solid. However, as we all know you dont play the game with statistics. What works for one team set up wont necessarily work for another. Surely chemistry is a bigger factor?
How do people come up with these players? Surely they dont sit and watch every European League? I'm genuinely curious, because the suggestions seem solid. However, as we all know you dont play the game with statistics. What works for one team set up wont necessarily work for another. Surely chemistry is a bigger factor?
Cheers. I must have missed that since I didnt know what Wyscout is.The article says that he inputs certain parameters into Wyscout to find the players.
Don't get me wrong, Its an impressive piece. I'm just not familiar with Wyscout and was curious how you flagged those specific players. Stats in football is a fairly recent thing. For years assists were never even recorded let alone such a detailed breakdown of how a player performs in specific areas. Do you reckon clubs are using systems like this to identify players to watch?You're right, it's a much more important factor as it's specific to our club. Numbers on a page are a great starting point but watching a player, how they interact with certain types of players and how suitable they'd be for your specific club is the key.
All the big clubs ether use Wyscout or some form of it. Stats is a massive part of football scouting now, but I agree that looking good on paper can only get you so far. I imagine our scouting department will use it regularly to throw up some random names, but that's just the start of the process.Don't get me wrong, Its an impressive piece. I'm just not familiar with Wyscout and was curious how you flagged those specific players. Stats in football is a fairly recent thing. For years assists were never even recorded let alone such a detailed breakdown of how a player performs in specific areas. Do you reckon clubs are using systems like this to identify players to watch?
That for me is a bit of an issue. If you are part of a pool of clubs looking at the same set of data you are going to see the same as everyone else. By all means do it, but it is important to have something else you can use to enable decision making.All the big clubs ether use Wyscout or some form of it. Stats is a massive part of football scouting now, but I agree that looking good on paper can only get you so far. I imagine our scouting department will use it regularly to throw up some random names, but that's just the start of the process.
There's been plenty articles written about Wyscout over the past few years as it has really taken off. Most teams nowadays are using it, but I don't agree that everyone is looking at the same set of data.That for me is a bit of an issue. If you are part of a pool of clubs looking at the same set of data you are going to see the same as everyone else. By all means do it, but it is important to have something else you can use to enable decision making.
I'm not arguing against stats mate, i'm a big believer in it. But the information is only good if you know how to use it, thats the key.There's been plenty articles written about Wyscout over the past few years as it has really taken off. Most teams nowadays are using it, but I don't agree that everyone is looking at the same set of data.
We will have a list drawn up of what Gerrard thinks we need, say for example "solid in midfield, reads the game well and can tackle" so will search on specific data points, whereas say a Championship club in England may well be focusing on passing stats, expected assists or goals per 90 to take them back to the premier league.
Stats are also very much open to interpretation remember. 10 teams could search the exact same list of 10 players and each team could fancy a different player. The players on that list (if you're scouting team are any good) will already be known to most clubs anyway.
The hard work comes away from the paper when you start to watch a player, look at his on / off field personality, talk to his coaches & family. Every team has a different dressing room and different expectations. Things like Wyscout are very much the beginning of a long process. You would have to be mental to sign a player off of his generated stats alone.
That for me is a bit of an issue. If you are part of a pool of clubs looking at the same set of data you are going to see the same as everyone else. By all means do it, but it is important to have something else you can use to enable decision making.
Any chance of something like this in pod form?
It was a really good read, I'd love to be able to listen to an organic conversation about this though.
I can’t imagine gathering these stats. I’ve seen people do it at baseball games, but it’s much slower paced. Must be a dream job for an anorak. It’s strange to think you have people at games, all around the world, watchIng and counting every pass. Blows my mind.All the big clubs ether use Wyscout or some form of it. Stats is a massive part of football scouting now, but I agree that looking good on paper can only get you so far. I imagine our scouting department will use it regularly to throw up some random names, but that's just the start of the process.
Especially if they're watching the dross we get served up in Scotland! spending all day counting long diags, elbows and little elseI can’t imagine gathering these stats. I’ve seen people do it at baseball games, but it’s much slower paced. Must be a dream job for an anorak. It’s strange to think you have people at games, all around the world, watchIng and counting every pass. Blows my mind.
I'd say its too early for this sort of assessment TBH but
this squad ABSOLUTELY NEEDS proven aggressive winners not ball playing CBs
you also say for example that we rely on Tavernier and Barisic and when either are missing we don't perform as well but put low rating for signing more full backs
last season's squad is/was weak mentally and physically that HAS to be addressed
Proven aggressive winners will be costly
There's value everywhere, just need to find it.