Rangers 4 Dundee United 1 1975

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November 12th 1975, a Wednesday night game.

We had won the League Cup but had been well beaten by French side St Etienne in Europe and our league form was inconsistent.
An unusual team line up with both Sandy Jardine and John Greig in midfield, the captain wearing a very unfamiliar Number 10.

Attendance was only 11,000.

We found our form soon afterwards, and roared to a first treble in 12 years.

The starting eleven

Stewart Kennedy, Jim Denny, Alex Miller, Sandy Jardine, Colin Jackson, Tom Forsyth, Tommy McLean, Bobby McKean, Derek Parlane, John Greig, Derek Johnstone.
Subs Alex MacDonald and Martin Henderson.

United's goal was scored by a young substitute called Paul Sturrock, who went on to have a great career with them. They just escaped relegation that season.

More Arthur Montford memories courtesy of @Rangers Archive Footage.


 
dh1963 said:
November 12th 1975, a Wednesday night game.

We had won the League Cup but had been well beaten by French side St Etienne in Europe and our league form was inconsistent.
An unusual team line up with both Sandy Jardine and John Greig in midfield, the captain wearing a very unfamiliar Number 10.

Attendance was only 11,000.

We found our form soon afterwards, and roared to a first treble in 12 years.

The starting eleven

Stewart Kennedy, Jim Denny, Alex Miller, Sandy Jardine, Colin Jackson, Tom Forsyth, Tommy McLean, Bobby McKean, Derek Parlane, John Greig, Derek Johnstone.
Subs Alex MacDonald and Martin Henderson.

United's goal was scored by a young substitute called Paul Sturrock, who went on to have a great career with them. They just escaped relegation that season.

More Arthur Montford memories courtesy of @Rangers Archive Footage.


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Did they escape relegation at Ibrox with a 0-0 draw? Hamish McAlpine (the goalie) missed a penalty and the Dundee Utd players surrounded the goalkeeper to prevent him from kicking the ball out while McAlpine sprinted back to goal.

or was that another year?:))
 
While we are on the subject of Rangers v. Dundee United games. Looking for some assistance here…did Jim Stewart not make his Rangers debut against Dundee United at Ibrox in March 1981? We got walloped 4-1 if memory serves me right. Sturrock ripped us to shreds that night. Think JS saved us from a more embarrassing result as well…
 
dh1963 said:
November 12th 1975, a Wednesday night game.

We had won the League Cup but had been well beaten by French side St Etienne in Europe and our league form was inconsistent.
An unusual team line up with both Sandy Jardine and John Greig in midfield, the captain wearing a very unfamiliar Number 10.

Attendance was only 11,000.

We found our form soon afterwards, and roared to a first treble in 12 years.

The starting eleven

Stewart Kennedy, Jim Denny, Alex Miller, Sandy Jardine, Colin Jackson, Tom Forsyth, Tommy McLean, Bobby McKean, Derek Parlane, John Greig, Derek Johnstone.
Subs Alex MacDonald and Martin Henderson.

United's goal was scored by a young substitute called Paul Sturrock, who went on to have a great career with them. They just escaped relegation that season.

More Arthur Montford memories courtesy of @Rangers Archive Footage.


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Does anyone know if Walter played that night? I don't think so, but he left Dundee United in 1975 so he may have played at some point. I'm fairly sure I saw him play in a game at Ibrox, probably 74, but that might be hope over reality.
 
Davie Meiklejohn said:
Does anyone know if Walter played that night? I don't think so, but he left Dundee United in 1975 so he may have played at some point. I'm fairly sure I saw him play in a game at Ibrox, probably 74, but that might be hope over reality.
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Walter played in this game.

Rangers 4 Dundee United 2 in 1974

November 30th 1974 The season the league title finally returned to Ibrox, the first one I saw us win. The Rangers team was Stewart Kennedy, Sandy Jardine, John Greig, Iain McDougall, Colin Jackson, Tom Forsyth, Bobby McKean, Tommy McLean, Derek Parlane, Alex MacDonald, Quinton Young...
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Templbluenose said:
Did they escape relegation at Ibrox with a 0-0 draw? Hamish McAlpine (the goalie) missed a penalty and the Dundee Utd players surrounded the goalkeeper to prevent him from kicking the ball out while McAlpine sprinted back to goal.

or was that another year?:))
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It was that same year.

Players from the previous two treble winning teams of 1949 and 64 played for a spell before kick off or at h/t. (The memory is going)

Aberdeen, Dun Utd and Dundee all finished that season on the same points. Dundee with the inferiorererer GD went down alongside St Johnstone.
 
Templbluenose said:
Did they escape relegation at Ibrox with a 0-0 draw? Hamish McAlpine (the goalie) missed a penalty and the Dundee Utd players surrounded the goalkeeper to prevent him from kicking the ball out while McAlpine sprinted back to goal.

or was that another year?:))
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Yep, was at the end of the season, we were already champions. If Dundee Utd had been relegated Jim McLean would probably have left and the team of the early 80s would not have happened. A real what if moment
 
loyd_grossman said:
Yep, was at the end of the season, we were already champions. If Dundee Utd had been relegated Jim McLean would probably have left and the team of the early 80s would not have happened. A real what if moment
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Did it hit the underside of the bar? I was 10 yo and my memory from the end was McAlpine running off the field with both his boots in his hand going mental.
 
Templbluenose said:
Did it hit the underside of the bar? I was 10 yo and my memory from the end was McAlpine running off the field with both his boots in his hand going mental.
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I thought it hit the post at the Rangers end of the ground. I was under 10 at the time though!

Funny that I can remember about games away back then but not remember what happened in a big game 5 years ago. Going to Ibrox really was magical as a kid.
 
wee bud's pit boots said:
It was that same year.

Players from the previous two treble winning teams of 1949 and 64 played for a spell before kick off or at h/t. (The memory is going)

Aberdeen, Dun Utd and Dundee all finished that season on the same points. Dundee with the inferiorererer GD went down alongside St Johnstone.
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Knew I had a pic somewhere @wee bud's pit boots
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Davie Meiklejohn said:
Does anyone know if Walter played that night? I don't think so, but he left Dundee United in 1975 so he may have played at some point. I'm fairly sure I saw him play in a game at Ibrox, probably 74, but that might be hope over reality.
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He didn't play in this 1975 game.

Their team was

Hamish McAlpine, Alex Rennie, Frank Kopel, Andy Rolland, Paul Hegarty, David Narey, John Holt, Doug Houston, George Fleming, Graeme Payne, Tom McAdam.
Subs Doug Smith, Paul Sturrock.
 
Bobby Russell's Perm said:
While we are on the subject of Rangers v. Dundee United games. Looking for some assistance here…did Jim Stewart not make his Rangers debut against Dundee United at Ibrox in March 1981? We got walloped 4-1 if memory serves me right. Sturrock ripped us to shreds that night. Think JS saved us from a more embarrassing result as well…
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You're right, that was his debut.
 
Templbluenose said:
Did it hit the underside of the bar? I was 10 yo and my memory from the end was McAlpine running off the field with both his boots in his hand going mental.
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AFAIK it went 40 feet over the bar. And it was at the Celtic end.

I think McAlpine was playing the good guy and keeping the the nod and wink arrangement that was going on. Rangers were taking it easy in the 2nd half. The Rangers No 7 was hitting crosses well away from the target men. Maybe he was having an off night or maybe he was thinking about his brother.

So McAlpine returned the compliment at the PK
 
Billy_Boyce said:
AFAIK it went 40 feet over the bar. And it was at the Celtic end.

I think McAlpine was playing the good guy and keeping the the nod and wink arrangement that was going on. Rangers were taking it easy in the 2nd half. The Rangers No 7 was hitting crosses well away from the target men. Maybe he was having an off night or maybe he was thinking about his brother.

So McAlpine returned the compliment at the PK
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I have a memory of the Utd players surrounding the Rangers keeper to prevent him kicking the ball.
AFIIK it was at the Celtic end and hit the bar or post?
 
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Hamish McAlpine: I told Jim McLean he was just like Freddie Starr mimicking Hitler and he sent me home from Japan

One of Scottish’s football’s indisputable and imperishable characters is lining up a birdie putt when I track him down to his golf course at Alyth, Perthshire. “I’ll call you right back,” says Hamish McAlpine, goalkeeper in the great Dundee United team.
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The ball scudded off the junction of post and bar and I had to sprint back to my goal like Usain Bolt. Well, probably more like Nellie the Elephant, which must have looked quite comical, but that was the risk of a keeper taking penalties.
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Bobby Russell's Perm said:
While we are on the subject of Rangers v. Dundee United games. Looking for some assistance here…did Jim Stewart not make his Rangers debut against Dundee United at Ibrox in March 1981? We got walloped 4-1 if memory serves me right. Sturrock ripped us to shreds that night. Think JS saved us from a more embarrassing result as well…
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Wasn't it chucking it down that night and despite the scoreline, Jim Stewart was our man of the match, he was brilliant that night.
 
Rangerista said:
Wasn't it chucking it down that night and despite the scoreline, Jim Stewart was our man of the match, he was brilliant that night.
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Spot on.

It's hard to believe after trudging out of Ibrox that night after a real trouncing that about six weeks later the roles would be reversed in the SC final replay.
 
dh1963 said:
November 12th 1975, a Wednesday night game.

We had won the League Cup but had been well beaten by French side St Etienne in Europe and our league form was inconsistent.
An unusual team line up with both Sandy Jardine and John Greig in midfield, the captain wearing a very unfamiliar Number 10.

Attendance was only 11,000.

We found our form soon afterwards, and roared to a first treble in 12 years.

The starting eleven

Stewart Kennedy, Jim Denny, Alex Miller, Sandy Jardine, Colin Jackson, Tom Forsyth, Tommy McLean, Bobby McKean, Derek Parlane, John Greig, Derek Johnstone.
Subs Alex MacDonald and Martin Henderson.

United's goal was scored by a young substitute called Paul Sturrock, who went on to have a great career with them. They just escaped relegation that season.

More Arthur Montford memories courtesy of @Rangers Archive Footage.


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Despite us being Champions, having won our first League Title in 11 years, and having won the League Cup just a couple of weeks earlier, there was calls for Wallace out around that time.
After the St Etienne game (what a load of rubbish), and the birth of the subway loyal,
we lost at home to Hearts just three days later.
This was a much needed win.
 
I was there that night and as said above there was a bit of malaise in the support around this time, despite recent domestic success(we've always been a tough crowd). St Etienne gave us a real going over at Ibrox and the scoreline flattered us. We should have expected it given they had Platini, Dominic Rocheteau etc and they should have won the European Cup at Hampden that year but Bayern did what they always did then.

As the Op says though, the season finished in a blaze of treble glory. The amazing thing was that shortly after this game Sandy Jardine played most of the games as a sub as Alex Miller held down the right back position and also Dingy Hamilton came back into the side about then and was an ever present from then till the end of the season.
 
Jan Wyck said:
I was there that night and as said above there was a bit of malaise in the support around this time, despite recent domestic success(we've always been a tough crowd). St Etienne gave us a real going over at Ibrox and the scoreline flattered us. We should have expected it given they had Platini, Dominic Rocheteau etc and they should have won the European Cup at Hampden that year but Bayern did what they always did then.

As the Op says though, the season finished in a blaze of treble glory. The amazing thing was that shortly after this game Sandy Jardine played most of the games as a sub as Alex Miller held down the right back position and also Dingy Hamilton came back into the side about then and was an ever present from then till the end of the season.
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There was also Martin Henderson replacing Parlane at centre forward. We thought Jock Wallace had lost the plot, but he didn't half prove us wrong.
 
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