Match Thread Rangers v Dundee - 19:30 Tuesday - Sky Sports

[Pioneer]

hardly a surprise, no the 1st time this group of players have downed tools

That’s horrendous management of the playing staff in that case. To have players running down their contracts, uncertain about where their futures lie etc and be pushing for the league is rank incompetence.

 

[Leonard]

Either Phil has told a sizeable number already to beat it in the summer or he's lost this dressing room already.

That is not a squad playing for their manager.

In which case, based upon what they have done for other managers too, every one can go.

 

[ShieldhallBear]

It's the players not the manager.

You will be lucky if there's 3 players from this starting 11 playing in the first game of next season.

Genuinely hope 1 at most.

 

[Betterintune]

Highly, highly doubt that.

Time has shown that Gio wasn’t the problem. Gave us a season to remember and then wasn’t backed.

Time showed nothing he’s a great guy and a legend but we got scudded off the rats ffs! He wasn’t gonna succeed in the league. You can believe he would but changes nothing! Clement will be the same

 

[Div1872]

Drop off has been alarming

Another Dundee goal before we scored and Ibrox would have emptied

Funny how Sky haven’t clarified if Dessers was offside for the penalty claim

I’m always suspicious that VAR has fcuked us over if they try and ignore it

Surely it should be clarified that he was offside. It’s a penalty and a potential red card offence as Dundee CB makes no attempt to play ball and stops a potential goal scoring opportunity

 

[Big Negri]

After about 20 mins I didn't realise Raskin was playing
WTF was King doing at their first goal.

King should be nowhere near a Rangers team. Raskin and Diomande are not helped by the absolute dross round about them. Good players do need others in the team to help them

 

[andy5836]

Genuinely hope 1 at most.

We can but hope.

 

[TheCanonburyCaniggia]

His tactics are not the problem ffs

they are part of it ffs. youre on another planet if you dont think Lawrence at parkhead was a problem. thats his tactics!

 

[Barrymoped]

See cunts defending clement. There’s 0 excuse no to have a style of play by now. Even if it as shit and not working. There is 0 structure or control in our play. So many desperate to excuse him! The fuckin moral winners

What do you want to do, sack him right now, or next week when the season ends?

We can’t just keep binning managers every few months

 

[Black Country loyal]

That blonde lad for Dundee is better than any of our midfielders

The blonde sat opposite me in the pub is far better than any of our midfielders

 

[Herbie53]

These players have reverted back to this “style” under 3 managers, it’s not the manager imo.

 

[Jelle1880]

This may be the first window that I'm more excited at players leaving than coming in.

I'm genuinely gonna celebrate if I see a social media post from the club saying that a few of these players are leaving.

 

[Taverneeeeer]

He was in the box marking

marking his man which he’ll have been instructed to do at free kicks.

The constant determination to blame Tav for everything is tedious

McCausland at fault initially for both by not attempting to stop the cross. Same thing tav is slaughtered for (rightly at times)

 

[Gameboy]

£5m for Diomande - good god

We could pick up an spl midfielder for under a miliion who would be better

Who? Ferguson was more, Miller & Watson are being quoted to be more, Dundee will want more than that for Cameron.

 

[Stuart_WATP]

Get gerrard back would be my advice

If not then get Mcinnes in

This is dreadful

How many managers are we gonna go through before we realise its the players?

 

[DorsetLoyal]

Get gerrard back would be my advice

If not then get Mcinnes in

This is dreadful

Aye, because we were flying under Gerrard before he bolted.

 

[Orange County]

He won’t be, he’s gone before October.

It wont be October, but i doubt he will be here at the start of 25/26.

 

[55&Beautiful]

There's 1 man currently managing in the SPL who would do a better job.....we need to wake up and smell the coffee here. We have no money, are a bang average footballing side at best and need to get rid of this snobbery we have.

No money think you will find your miles off.. get facts right

 

[Leonard]

That’s horrendous management of the playing staff in that case. To have players running down their contracts, uncertain about where their futures lie etc and be pushing for the league is rank incompetence.

That's not on Phil though. He's just playing a bad hand.

 

[CarlukeRanger]

I can’t wait till this seasons finished so I don’t need to see some of these players play for Rangers again

 

[BrooklynBlue]

Either Phil has told a sizeable number already to beat it in the summer or he's lost this dressing room already.

That is not a squad playing for their manager.

Tonight, perhaps. But what about the rest of it? This has now been weeks.

I said earlier in the thread that Clement should now just call them out publically. They're embarrassing him now.

 

[spotlight]

We need to have a serious look at Cameron of Dundee. Could do a real job for us and wouldn’t cost the same as guys from lower English leagues.
Make him a good offer and get him in our squad.

 

[CinnamonSwally]

If he’s lost the dressing room, the dressing room can go.

 

[Lerwickstan]

Let's see how this game pans out in the second half. Many folk were pleased with the first 15-20 minutes and the "urgency" and movement. Unfortunately our defending is shit and we are crap in the final third - no different to nearly all matches going back to the the days of Beale. Just a hunch, but I think it's the players we have.

 

[billywizz]

It's the same shite every year. They plod along for a while then fall off a cliff. We can't keep binning managers when it's clear there is something very toxic at the club whether it be the board, certain players, or what.

 

[wilso10]

He was in the box marking

marking his man which he’ll have been instructed to do at free kicks.

The constant determination to blame Tav for everything is tedious

The guy needs to leave for his own good.

The idiots in our support are turning toxic towards him again and he’s at risk of leaving for all the wrong reasons because the rest around him have failed us again this season.

 

[Dedé Arneaux]

We will win tonight.

We need players that know the league.

I admire your optimism

I wouldn’t be giving you my money to bet on it

 

[Mexi]

It’s up to the manager to install that belief, plus he’d be able to bring his own players. He knows the league and will know the right mentality we need to bring in

And Clement will bring in his own players this Summer

 

[Bobans27]

This may be the first window that I'm more excited at players leaving than coming in.

Agree, first time in a while where I genuinely don’t care who goes

 

[LJ50]

Because the left back is very short, Tav was defending the left backs position for the cross they were expecting.

By all means berate the captain but not for that one.

As a starting position, that’s true. But Tavernier, like every player other than McAusland, totally failed to react to the short free kick.

 

[GersFanHutch]

The squad is a shambles.

The manager looks clueless.

Both can be true. As depressing as it is.

 

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

Anyway well done the UB, final display in the Broomloan.

 

[muttley]

We always need an early goal to settle, and when we don't get it, we panic in defence, then we do something crazy and concede.

It is tiresome, tbh.

 

[Gameboy]

Either Phil has told a sizeable number already to beat it in the summer or he's lost this dressing room already.

That is not a squad playing for their manager.

Said was it yesterday or Sunday to the press that there will be big changes to the playing, coaching and medical team.

 

[Dot.D]

The reality is that Clement is pissing in the wind with the lack of quality in the squad. It's clear a whole new defence is needed, McCausland wouldn't get a game for Dundee so tells us loads about levels.

He would have been better playing the B team to see what they could do as we already know we have bottlers throughout the team!

Do Dundee have more quality in their squad?

 

[OranjeBear]

Clement has a proven ability to win things.

It can't be the manager's fault every time.

He has and will continue to make mistakes, but this core group of players would get Guardiola sacked. They are the common denominator.

 

[Kinghornloyal]

Who was he marking for the second goal? He was standing between 2 of our own players when the cross come in.

Not how I see it.

 

[Del1872]

Anyone is doing well to convince me there isn't a problem in the dressing room

There’s a huge problem in our dressing room. It’s the players, the underperforming bottle merchants that when required, don’t have the ability to roll up their sleeves and get tore right in, instead they disappear into a shell. A major clear out is the only solution, far too many are simply no where near the standard we need.

 

[Chris the Bandito]

Ref's headset not working.

Of course he can't actually just do the job himself. Waaayyyy out his depth

 

[SBC72]

A new manager isn't going to give Tavernier, King, and McCausland the ability to defend.

Wake up.

 

[Alex Hunter]

How’s Muscat getting on?

 

[GeeSpot]

Because the left back is very short, Tav was defending the left backs position for the cross they were expecting.

By all means berate the captain but not for that one.

Because we were expecting a hoofball into the box. That opened up the right back position for them to go 2v1. Meanwhile Cantwell and Dessers are floating about up the pitch. Tavernier and Silva in the box marking nobody - they only had 3 men in the box (2 outside the box completely unmarked also). Go man for man, put Ridvan on McCowan or some other short arse.

 

[stonewall Jackson]

I realise we are down to the bare bones but More inept displays on show.

As usual we can’t stop cost balls into the area and that will be our downfall in the SCF.

 

[Jazzman]

He was marking a player elsewhere at both goals. Was MacAuslands job to try and stop a cross coming in twice. Open your eyes

So ask a winger to stop goals from RB. Not the first goals conceded from there King, maybe the Tav apologists need to wake up to a DEFENDER who cannot DEFEND. It’s in the job title ffs

 

[andy5836]

Either Phil has told a sizeable number already to beat it in the summer or he's lost this dressing room already.

That is not a squad playing for their manager.

Think a lot have chucked it knowing they won't be here much longer.

 

[artificialintoleranz]

Either Phil has told a sizeable number already to beat it in the summer or he's lost this dressing room already.

That is not a squad playing for their manager.

Serious question.

Would losing this dressing room be that big an issue?

Anyone asks anything from them, they take the huff. Anyone drags them into a title race, they mess themselves.

Get them tae fark, as many as possible, let PC and Koppen build a team.

 

[YOGI_GER]

Tav is always at the centre of our woes

Can’t be a coincidence

 

[Boab4]

they are part of it ffs. youre on another planet if you dont think Lawrence at parkhead was a problem. thats his tactics!

That’s the players

 

[Neild79]

What even is the point of Tav.
Absolutely no effort from him for both their goals.
Both whipped in from his side & he just watches on.
Get him to %^*&.

 

[Hazylight1989]

What’s this ?

Think it’s the last game at Ibrox the UB will be in that corner ?