Scottish Media / Politicians - Sectarian Bigots

Big D

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Sectarianism - Definition

- Excessive attachment to a particular sect or party, especially in religion.

Bigot - Definition

- a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and an intolerance of people who have different beliefs or a different way of life


Given the way our club and our supporters are treated and reported by leading SNP politicians and members of the media, are we entitled to label them as bigots and sectarian? They do so with us at every opportunity, while widely turning a blind eye to the actions of the club from the other side of the city and its supporters. We know the attachment some of those writers, broadcasters and politicians have with Celtic. Is it an attachment excessive enough to class them sectarian? We certainly know many of them have an intolerance of all things Rangers. Is it enough to class them as bigots?

I've tried to consider reasonably and rationally, if some things would have been reported differently, or attracted the attention of politicians, if the shoe had been on the other foot. The reason it came to mind, was the mind boggling double standards and rank hypocrisy after the Killie v Celtic game on Sunday, as opposed to the Rangers v Killie game on Wednesday. On Sunday, the majority of Celtic fans present, as they often do, sang the 'cheer up' song to Kris Boyd. They also threw missiles, wrecked seats and apparently confronted Killie players when they invaded the park. Barely a peep. Fast forward 72 hours and a small number of Rangers fans sing essentially the same song to Steve Clarke and the reaction has been nuclear.

So, let's consider Alfredo Morelos as example 1. Imagine if, instead of being a young, black Columbian playing for Rangers, he was instead a young, catholic Irishman playing for Celtic. Same behaviour, same 27 goals, same assists. Would he be treated as Morelos has been? Name calling, slurs, insults? Regular calls for bans? Regular calls for retrospective action? Under an incessant and negative spotlight?

Then let's consider the hanging effigies and banners at Celtic Park last season. Again, there was barely a murmur about this. Yet this was probably an unprecedented level of bitterness, hatred and bile, given the sinister nature of the mock hanging and the wording on the giant banners which were allowed in and allowed to be displayed. Would the media and politicians have reacted differently if this was Rangers fans acting this way at Ibrox?

Finally, the elephant in the room. The multiple cases of child sex abuse at Celtic Boys Club, which has seen several former employees jailed and dozens of accusers taking legal action. While it hasn't been completely ignored by the media (though it has been largely by politicians who have plenty to say on much more trivial matters not involving their beloved club) it has certainly been played down. It is a scandal so huge, it is difficult to fully comprehend the scale of it, yet such has been the success of keeping a lid on it, I would suggest the short burst of 'Cheer up Stevie Clarke' on Wednesday has seen more tweets, more column inches, more outrage and more national coverage.

There are many more examples. The usual suspects would call it 'whataboutery' I suppose - an exclusively Scottish term used when there is a blatant imbalance in the narrative and someone dares question it.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded rant. It just occurred to me as somewhat ironic, that many of those who jump to accuse us of sectarianism and bigotry at every real, perceived and contrived opportunity, actually display classic symptoms of being sectarian bigots themselves.
 
Sectarianism - Definition

- Excessive attachment to a particular sect or party, especially in religion.

Bigot - Definition

- a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and an intolerance of people who have different beliefs or a different way of life

Given the way our club and our supporters are treated and reported by leading SNP politicians and members of the media, are we entitled to label them as bigots and sectarian? They do so with us at every opportunity, while widely turning a blind eye to the actions of the club from the other side of the city and its supporters. We know the attachment some of those writers, broadcasters and politicians have with Celtic. Is it an attachment excessive enough to class them sectarian? We certainly know many of them have an intolerance of all things Rangers. Is it enough to class them as bigots?

I've tried to consider reasonably and rationally, if some things would have been reported differently, or attracted the attention of politicians, if the shoe had been on the other foot. The reason it came to mind, was the mind boggling double standards and rank hypocrisy after the Killie v Celtic game on Sunday, as opposed to the Rangers v Killie game on Wednesday. On Sunday, the majority of Celtic fans present, as they often do, sang the 'cheer up' song to Kris Boyd. They also threw missiles, wrecked seats and apparently confronted Killie players when they invaded the park. Barely a peep. Fast forward 72 hours and a small number of Rangers fans sing essentially the same song to Steve Clarke and the reaction has been nuclear.

So, let's consider Alfredo Morelos as example 1. Imagine if, instead of being a young, black Columbian playing for Rangers, he was instead a young, catholic Irishman playing for Celtic. Same behaviour, same 27 goals, same assists. Would he be treated as Morelos has been? Name calling, slurs, insults? Regular calls for bans? Regular calls for retrospective action? Under an incessant and negative spotlight?

Then let's consider the hanging effigies and banners at Celtic Park last season. Again, there was barely a murmur about this. Yet this was probably an unprecedented level of bitterness, hatred and bile, given the sinister nature of the mock hanging and the wording on the giant banners which were allowed in and allowed to be displayed. Would the media and politicians have reacted differently if this was Rangers fans acting this way at Ibrox?

Finally, the elephant in the room. The multiple cases of child sex abuse at Celtic Boys Club, which has seen several former employees jailed and dozens of accusers taking legal action. While it hasn't been completely ignored by the media (though it has been largely by politicians who have plenty to say on much more trivial matters not involving their beloved club) it has certainly been played down. It is a scandal so huge, it is difficult to fully comprehend the scale of it, yet such has been the success of keeping a lid on it, I would suggest the short burst of 'Cheer up Stevie Clarke' on Wednesday has seen more tweets, more column inches, more outrage and more national coverage.

There are many more examples. The usual suspects would call it 'whataboutery' I suppose - an exclusively Scottish term used when there is a blatant imbalance in the narrative and someone dares question it.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded rant. It just occurred to me as somewhat ironic, that many of those who jump to accuse us of sectarianism and bigotry at every real, perceived and contrived opportunity, actually display classic symptoms of being sectarian bigots themselves.


The mhedia only see sectarianism when they want to see it, mate. The hysteria concerning the liar Clarke says it all.
 
The mhedia only see sectarianism when they want to see it, mate. The hysteria concerning the liar Clarke says it all.
Would Gareth Southgate get the same faux media outrage after the next game at Hampden or just the usual laughs ,sniggers and he's only a durty EB anyways
 
Why have the media not asked or called out Celtic FC to publicly condemn the sectarian chanting from their fans towards Kris Boyd on Sunday ?

Why have Celtic FC not made any statement publicly condemning the actions of their fans on Sunday ? Sectarian chanting, wrecking seats, coin throwing ?

A fair and reasonable media would be asking these questions of Celtic. As the OP alludes to, we certainly do not have that in Scotland.
 
Sectarianism - Definition

- Excessive attachment to a particular sect or party, especially in religion.

Bigot - Definition

- a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and an intolerance of people who have different beliefs or a different way of life

Given the way our club and our supporters are treated and reported by leading SNP politicians and members of the media, are we entitled to label them as bigots and sectarian? They do so with us at every opportunity, while widely turning a blind eye to the actions of the club from the other side of the city and its supporters. We know the attachment some of those writers, broadcasters and politicians have with Celtic. Is it an attachment excessive enough to class them sectarian? We certainly know many of them have an intolerance of all things Rangers. Is it enough to class them as bigots?

I've tried to consider reasonably and rationally, if some things would have been reported differently, or attracted the attention of politicians, if the shoe had been on the other foot. The reason it came to mind, was the mind boggling double standards and rank hypocrisy after the Killie v Celtic game on Sunday, as opposed to the Rangers v Killie game on Wednesday. On Sunday, the majority of Celtic fans present, as they often do, sang the 'cheer up' song to Kris Boyd. They also threw missiles, wrecked seats and apparently confronted Killie players when they invaded the park. Barely a peep. Fast forward 72 hours and a small number of Rangers fans sing essentially the same song to Steve Clarke and the reaction has been nuclear.

So, let's consider Alfredo Morelos as example 1. Imagine if, instead of being a young, black Columbian playing for Rangers, he was instead a young, catholic Irishman playing for Celtic. Same behaviour, same 27 goals, same assists. Would he be treated as Morelos has been? Name calling, slurs, insults? Regular calls for bans? Regular calls for retrospective action? Under an incessant and negative spotlight?

Then let's consider the hanging effigies and banners at Celtic Park last season. Again, there was barely a murmur about this. Yet this was probably an unprecedented level of bitterness, hatred and bile, given the sinister nature of the mock hanging and the wording on the giant banners which were allowed in and allowed to be displayed. Would the media and politicians have reacted differently if this was Rangers fans acting this way at Ibrox?

Finally, the elephant in the room. The multiple cases of child sex abuse at Celtic Boys Club, which has seen several former employees jailed and dozens of accusers taking legal action. While it hasn't been completely ignored by the media (though it has been largely by politicians who have plenty to say on much more trivial matters not involving their beloved club) it has certainly been played down. It is a scandal so huge, it is difficult to fully comprehend the scale of it, yet such has been the success of keeping a lid on it, I would suggest the short burst of 'Cheer up Stevie Clarke' on Wednesday has seen more tweets, more column inches, more outrage and more national coverage.

There are many more examples. The usual suspects would call it 'whataboutery' I suppose - an exclusively Scottish term used when there is a blatant imbalance in the narrative and someone dares question it.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded rant. It just occurred to me as somewhat ironic, that many of those who jump to accuse us of sectarianism and bigotry at every real, perceived and contrived opportunity, actually display classic symptoms of being sectarian bigots themselves.

Post of the day Big D !!!!!!!
 
Why have the media not asked or called out Celtic FC to publicly condemn the sectarian chanting from their fans towards Kris Boyd on Sunday ?

Why have Celtic FC not made any statement publicly condemning the actions of their fans on Sunday ? Sectarian chanting, wrecking seats, coin throwing ?

A fair and reasonable media would be asking these questions of Celtic. As the OP alludes to, we certainly do not have that in Scotland.
They have immunity don't you know!?!? A protected species. Their and the media silence on many things speaks volumes.
 
Things have a nasty habit of turning full circle on people in Ivory towers. All it takes is one incident to nail them to the wall and the whole one sided affair against us will fall like a house of cards.
The child abuse scandal at sperate entity club will catch up with them and there will be nothing the mhedia will be able to do. When the whole story is laid bare the good people of this land will demand answers. The SNP are getting found out and soon will be put back in their box.
 
Celtc placemen in every position of power. They have poisoned EVERYTHING they touch. Sustained attacks on our beloved Club which would have put the SS and KGB to shame. NS
 
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