Should Man Utd have stuck with Moyes?

Man U fans wanted instant success but Moyes needed time to build his own team. Ferguson was exceptional and irreplaceable.
 
When Busby left United went on a huge downward spiral that saw them relegated.No matter who replaced someone like Busby they were doomed to fail.
It was the same when Ferguson left.Ferguson like Busby still held too much power and they would always cast a shadow of whoever took over.
Only downside is they never got relegated this time.
Regarding Moyes he was never going to have the stature to be a United manager
 
Nah, the players weren't working for him. He is a good manager though, but I think no matter who was appointed after Ferguson they would have struggled.
 
His brand of football was always going to be a tough ask for Man United fans who probably thought their domination would simply continue merrily along.

If they knew back then what they know now they would probably have given him a fair crack of the whip - they thought Moyes was not big enough for them.
 
WinkieWATP said:
Sitting Ferdinand and Vidic down to watch Phil Jagielka videos probably didn’t get them off to the best start tbh.:))
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Perhaps not but they did seem to down tools after being asked not to eat oven chips :D
 
He inherited a team that Ferguson had dragged along kicking and screaming. Needed a massive overhaul.

He had a better record away from home than at home - not a good thing.

He never had the "need to win every game" mentality needed.
 
Ferguson left a bag of sh*t and got out knowing it but nobody will say anything against him. Remember he was there 3 years and on the verge of the sack before he turned the corner. Moyes got no time to try and build a side and had to work with the rubbish he was left by Ferguson.
 
willieluc said:
Ferguson left a bag of sh*t and got out knowing it but nobody will say anything against him. Remember he was there 3 years and on the verge of the sack before he turned the corner. Moyes got no time to try and build a side and had to work with the rubbish he was left by Ferguson.
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One of his skills was to get seemingly ordinary players playing out of their skin.When you look at some of the players he had at Aberdeen and St Mirren compared to the success he achieved with them.Even Man Utd at their best had players that weren't the most skillful but they worked well in the team set up.This imo was always going to be the problem for any manager following in his footsteps.
 
There was no point in Man United sticking with Moyes, they had already demonstrated they were not prepared to back him in the market and Man United needed to spend alot on a major squad overhaul but weren't prepared to and we have been treated to the comedy festival ever since.

To be fair to Moyes the board at Man United seemed to spend all summer chasing Ronaldo forgetting everything else that makes a team a team and then were shocked when the wheels came off the wagon.

This was a list of what Moyes team could have looked like

www.givemesport.com

Man Utd's potential starting XI if David Moyes had signed all his transfer targets

Bale, Fabregas and Kroos were all on Moyes' shopping list
www.givemesport.com www.givemesport.com
 
Moyes was and will never be Man U class.

8 months was not long enough but he would never have taken them to win the league.

Fergie left them with a squad that was done and needed a huge rebuild.

They should have went for a bigger name. Man U are a huge club and should never have settled for a Everton Manager.

He's a great manager for West Ham but that's level.
 
Midfield General said:
One of his skills was to get seemingly ordinary players playing out of their skin.When you look at some of the players he had at Aberdeen and St Mirren compared to the success he achieved with them.Even Man Utd at their best had players that weren't the most skillful but they worked well in the team set up.This imo was always going to be the problem for any manager following in his footsteps.
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Yes will agree whoever had taken over then had an impossible task.
 
willieluc said:
Ferguson left a bag of sh*t and got out knowing it but nobody will say anything against him. Remember he was there 3 years and on the verge of the sack before he turned the corner. Moyes got no time to try and build a side and had to work with the rubbish he was left by Ferguson.
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The same squad (+£30m fellaini) won the league the season before. Yes they were ageing, but that was on Woodward and Moyes to get the right signings in. If they’d got the main targets like Muller that’d have helped, but the performances were so poor that season and the drop off so dramatic they had to act.
 
If he had hunted Rio Ferdinand right away he might’ve had a fighting chance of lasting longer.

He should’ve kept Mike Phelan in place and not had Phil Neville in so prominent a role as well.
 
Leo_Ger said:
The problem with Man Utd post-Ferguson hasn't really been entirely down to the managers. Ferguson was more than a manager, he was an exceptional figurehead which meant they neglected the other infrastructure support another manager would need around him in the modern era.

That tied in with the disastrous Ed Woodward replacing the much more football savvy David Gil means they've been ran more like a marketing brand than a proper football club. Aside from Solskjaer, the other managers they've employed aren't terrible managers but there's been no cohesive coordination or direction for the club.

However, I'm not sure Moyes would have ever worked out particularly great at Man Utd. He's a decent manager capable of overperforming with low expectation clubs. Him having Vidic and Ferdinand watching analysis videos of how Phil Jagielka defended showed how far out of his depth he was at the club.
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I was going to make the point about Woodward being the one dictating the club's movement in transfer market. IIRC he is an accountant and had no real experience of football when appointed so it's no wonder signings were a disaster.

Similarly, agree it probably would never have worked for DM there. Wrong style of football.
 
willieluc said:
Ferguson left a bag of sh*t and got out knowing it but nobody will say anything against him. Remember he was there 3 years and on the verge of the sack before he turned the corner. Moyes got no time to try and build a side and had to work with the rubbish he was left by Ferguson.
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I wouldn't say he was left shit but he was left a side that even though title winners had reached it's sell by date. Ferguson knew a rebuild over at least several years was required. Almost like he had to do right at the start and he was now too old to do that again.

And this was a different era from that he started in. This era was littered with artificial giants bankrolled by billionaires making the task all the more difficult. No one could have turned it around in a season. Ferguson in his prime couldn't have.
 
“Once again it’s Moyes” “You got the job on the technicality of a legend….. you are nothing! You are a fool! GOODNIGHT!”
 
Hindsight being 20/20 he should have gotten more time, because Man Utd have never really looked like a proper league winning team since. So it wouldn’t have hurt to give him more time. But their fans had very high expectations back then and time was not on his side. Ironically, he’d be an excellent candidate to manage them now.
 
A guy who shows Rio Ferdinand videos of Phil Jagielka is not right in the head or equipped to manage an elite club.

He's doing excellent at West Ham now but lets not rewrite history he was dreadful at various clubs after leaving Man Utd.
 
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