Sir Alex Ferguson talking about the one thing he took from his time at Rangers

Blueknows said:
He wasn’t hung out to dry. He simply didn’t follow the manager’s instruction which was for him to mark McNeil at corners. The outcome we all know.

I fancy had any of his players while he was manager of Aberdeen or Man Utd been as negligent in their specifically instructed defensive duties leading to a 4- 0 defeat the outcome for them would have been at least as bad as he got. I fancy he would probably have slaughtered the player in question publicly too.
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Nope That's a myth Ronnie Mckinnon should have picked up McNeil.He mentioned to Fergie going on to the pitch about him doing it instead.It was the first Fergie new about this "tactic" and of course it turned into a shambles.Nothing to fo with the managers instructions.
 
Clicker said:
Colin Stein was ambushed by two sleekit mentally challengeds, one who provoked him enough to get him sent off, and one who had influence over the SFA to get him banned long enough to miss the final.
An enemy like no other, indeed.
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It was agame against Clyde at Ibrox.As I remember Colin had the ball around the half way line and was moving forward with it.Eddie Mulhearn had two swipes at him and the third time Colin retaliated and was sent off.It was a scandalous decision as mulhearn should have been off.
Unfortunately Colin missed the final.I still think we should have won it as the mhanks were missing Hood,Hughes and Johnstone.
 
bluebeak said:
That story is nonsense. We brought in a better player to replace him. I was a big Fergie fan when he played for us but, if his wife was the reason we got rid, why did he go to Falkirk? If he was as good a player as he thought he was why didn’t he go to Arsenal or Everton or City?
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This is fckn actually very boring to re-iterate time and time again the truth about Alex Ferguson.
You are of course right.
Alex Ferguson was signed by Rangers who at the time cared not one fck about his wife.
He was indeed not the only employee married to a non-Protestant partner.

However, there may or may not have been another person inside Ibrox who did not care for Alex and since that time Alex has said the problem was to do with his choice of partner.
That man never had a chance to challenge this assertion as he died before it was made.

By the way, in my experience, inside structures with a lot of employees, don't be surprised to find the occasional cvunt who doesn't like you no matter what a decent person you think you are.
Worse, don't look for a reason for that dislike such as race, religion, or size of your nose, the chances are that these people just didn't fckn like you!
Learn to live with it, the older you get the more it happens and the less you fckn care!

I watched Alex throughout his Rangers career.
He was a very popular and even cult-like figure.
His goalscoring record was indeed very decent for a Rangers team that scored a lot of goals back then.
No one ever wanted him to leave the club, no matter what anyone claims.

Alex left because we signed Colin Stein, the best Scottish striker since Denis Law.
Alex left because in those days it was better to play for another side in the same league as a first-choice player and gain bonus payments than it was to be in the reserves where the basic wage wasn't that much better at Rangers than it was at Falkirk.

Had Alex stayed he would almost certainly have been part of Willie Waddell's plans for the Rangers. team of that era.
That is what Willie said and that is what Alex agrees with.

Everything else is just fckn mischief.
 
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Zwingli'sSausages said:
He is still a Rangers fan 100%.
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I'm not so sure lol.

From the recent documentary I get the impression he grew up a fan, but him and his wife now resent us.

Back then beliefs were more intense and he might have got a hard time, or maybe he simply wasn't good enough .
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle

Either way. Massive respect for SAF
 
SAF threads are always brilliant for weeding out the bitter losers on here, and this one hasn't disappointed
 
Midfield General said:
It was agame against Clyde at Ibrox.As I remember Colin had the ball around the half way line and was moving forward with it.Eddie Mulhearn had two swipes at him and the third time Colin retaliated and was sent off.It was a scandalous decision as mulhearn should have been off.
Unfortunately Colin missed the final.I still think we should have won it as the mhanks were missing Hood,Hughes and Johnstone.
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I think from memory Mulhearn had about 5 swipes before Stein took a swipe.
 
Clicker said:
Colin Stein was ambushed by two sleekit mentally challengeds, one who provoked him enough to get him sent off, and one who had influence over the SFA to get him banned long enough to miss the final.
An enemy like no other, indeed.
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No different today, the Lego eater on Alfie.
 
I think SAF might have been employing the old psychological tactics he is famous for even as far back as the late 1960's on account of how/why he left us. The argument that he wasn't wanted because he was married to a Roman Catholic.

Rangers got rid of him because athough he was a reasonably good forward he was not a great one. Plus he had a very poor game in the 1969 SFA Cup Final and got blamed for not picking up Billy McBungle for the first of their 4 goals (Still gves me nightmares that match).

Maybe SAF is using the psychological tactic (wouldn't be like him!) of 'deflecting' from the real reason Rangers got rid of him was that he wasn't good enough for us. So instead claims that he was got rid of because he was married to an RC was a good reason to deflect from his average footballing ability.
 
If you scroll down you can read Gary Neville's recipe for the future of Britain. Jesus, give it up, for %^*&'s sake. You were an average footballer who got stuck in, nothing more, nothing less. He's become a real-life David Brent.
 
Always Ready said:
If you scroll down you can read Gary Neville's recipe for the future of Britain. Jesus, give it up, for %^*&'s sake. You were an average footballer who got stuck in, nothing more, nothing less. He's become a real-life David Brent.
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Neville was quite a bit better than average. You don’t become a mainstay RB in those successful United teams just being average
 
OohAhHuistra said:
Neville was quite a bit better than average. You don’t become a mainstay RB in those successful United teams just being average
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All right, I'll give you he was a good right back. Still I'm no more interested in his take on Britain's future than I am on my local butcher's.
 
giogaddi said:
Disagree. This thread is filled with bitter wee men. SAF is a Rangers supporter. Anyone saying otherwise is talking complete nonsense.
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Yeah I’m confident he has a preference for Rangers, I don’t doubt it. But I don’t think picking and choosing when to cheer us on, having a timmy loving son and telling porky pies about why it didn’t work out for him here are really the marks of someone with any serious affection for the club.

Tell you what I do think. I think some people really want Ferguson to love Rangers in a way that he doesn’t primarily because of his profile and status within the game, and are therefore willing to ignore those glaring red flags, and the fact that he himself has always been a bitter individual; even if that bitterness has spurred him on to great success in his managerial career.

Unless it’s complete fucking nonsense to suggest that a man who has provided ammunition to our enemies and enabled us to be tarred with the sectarian brush through the years by telling porkies, and who only wants us to win OF games to wind up his mentally challenged loving son (straight from the horses mouth), isn’t exactly Mr Rangers. Takes a serious level of fanboyism to simply turn a blind eye to all of that.
 
Pirlo said:
I’m not sure though. I mean like it or not, he’s said a lot of things over the years someone who loves Rangers would simply never say. Right down to saying he only wants us to win OF games to wind up his celtic loving son (that fact he ended up supporting that mob probably says enough on its own).

As great as he was, Ferguson is a bitter bastard at times. He even recalled loanees from clubs when his son got the tin tack. It’s not very professional or dignified.
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Astonished that his sons are celtic fans.
How did thar even happen?
He definitely had a lot of bitterness towards Rangers for a while.
I don't think he was forced out because he married a Catholic, but at that time he probably would've recieved the odd comments.
 
jimbear said:
When Jim Leighton pawned a goal in the FA Cup Final, Fergie dropped him like a ton of bricks. I sometimes wonder if he ever pondered that decision to drop Leighton against his own circumstances when his particular failure to follow specific instructions from his manager in a cup final cost his team a vital goal in a cup final.
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I think he was quite right to drop Leighton.

After that, it was up to Leighton to show his character by recovering form and winning his place back. I don't think it was the case that the goalkeeper was to be ostracized - Ferguson liked him. But Leighton took it as a personal snub rather than the tough but necessary decision that it was at the time.
 
Teddy bear said:
Astonished that his sons are celtic fans.
How did thar even happen?
He definitely had a lot of bitterness towards Rangers for a while.
I don't think he was forced out because he married a Catholic, but at that time he probably would've recieved the odd comments.
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His father ran a Celtic supporters bus in Govan.
 
dixonofdockblu said:
When he was St Mirren manager Fergie came to my school to present us with our medals for winning the cup .We felt that he didn't want to be there as he was stroppy and generally unpleasant. , even lightly slapping one of the players for being boisterous , this was in front of the whole school assembly.
The following year former Rangers player Ian Munro came and presented us with our league winners medals. He couldn't have been any nicer asking us about our positions and team formations etc .
The contrast between the two was night and day.
This was at Renfrew High School season 74/75 and 75/76.
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Well, I don't think i's controversial to say Sir Alex has always been and will always be a grumpy bugger. He's the kind of man who's name is usually preceded by the epitheth 'dour Scot', like Jim McLean or even Jock Wallace.
 
Pirlo said:
Yeah I’m confident he has a preference for Rangers, I don’t doubt it. But I don’t think picking and choosing when to cheer us on, having a timmy loving son and telling porky pies about why it didn’t work out for him here are really the marks of someone with any serious affection for the club.

Tell you what I do think. I think some people really want Ferguson to love Rangers in a way that he doesn’t primarily because of his profile and status within the game, and are therefore willing to ignore those glaring red flags, and the fact that he himself has always been a bitter individual; even if that bitterness has spurred him on to great success in his managerial career.

Unless it’s complete fucking nonsense to suggest that a man who has provided ammunition to our enemies and enabled us to be tarred with the sectarian brush through the years by telling porkies, and who only wants us to win OF games to wind up his mentally challenged loving son (straight from the horses mouth), isn’t exactly Mr Rangers. Takes a serious level of fanboyism to simply turn a blind eye to all of that.
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Absolutely mate – as a football player he may have thought he was good enough, but his career proved that he wasn’t. He was replaced with Colin Stein, who was younger and a far better player, a Scotland international - which Ferguson was nowhere close to.

For the benefit of Alex Ferguson and to the detriment of Rangers, he told lies in his autobiography to sell books.

He and his publisher may have thought printing bullshit creates interest, but the short and long term problem is that Rangers are still stuck with his religious fantasy. And he know that our enemies, sponsors, society etc thrive on that particular issue.

Like I mentioned previously, I have listened to two prominent sixties players and their words were that everyone knew he was married to a catholic girl and no one gave two hoots.

I don’t like the guy – but sure many celtic fans do, because of his lies.
 
I’m not discounting anything he’s done in his management career-it’s remarkable and I’m not bitter as much as I hated his Aberdeen they were exceptional probably wasn’t the only Bear who admired their European victory.

As a Rangers man though? Nah that was a long time ago he has no genuine affinity for the club for decades. He’s done us no favours with his comments over the years
 
jimbear said:
When Jim Leighton pawned a goal in the FA Cup Final, Fergie dropped him like a ton of bricks. I sometimes wonder if he ever pondered that decision to drop Leighton against his own circumstances when his particular failure to follow specific instructions from his manager in a cup final cost his team a vital goal in a cup final.
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Especially in the first minute
 
I've never liked Alex Ferguson. Partly because I despise Man Utd but I've always found him to be a bit of a phoney anyway (champagne socialist and pretend Rangers fan).

Granted, he was a great manager.
 
ADMC said:
Absolutely mate – as a football player he may have thought he was good enough, but his career proved that he wasn’t. He was replaced with Colin Stein, who was younger and a far better player, a Scotland international - which Ferguson was nowhere close to.

For the benefit of Alex Ferguson and to the detriment of Rangers, he told lies in his autobiography to sell books.

He and his publisher may have thought printing bullshit creates interest, but the short and long term problem is that Rangers are still stuck with his religious fantasy. And he know that our enemies, sponsors, society etc thrive on that particular issue.

Like I mentioned previously, I have listened to two prominent sixties players and their words were that everyone knew he was married to a catholic girl and no one gave two hoots.

I don’t like the guy – but sure many celtic fans do, because of his lies.
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Yeah the worst thing you can do is give the filth and the filth compliant media more ammo to use in their quest to have us branded as bigots, well he’s loaded the gun up for them a number of times over the years.

He was up here for a couple of OF games over a decade ago looking thrilled when we won, but that was when Walter was in charge and one thing that is certain is SAF adored Walter. So I’m sure that elation was more fo this mate winning than Rangers winning. Again, I’m sure he genuinely wants us to win, but spare me the nonsense about how he loves Rangers.
 
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barrheadbear said:
I was at Hampden that day and it was only a combination of police and stewards encouraging us to move that eventuallyhad us on our way.

As for Fergie, one day he likes us, the next he doesn't... does it really matter, not really.
My one regret is him turning us down when Greig was shown the door but then would the revolution that Souness brought ever have happened.
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I remember the chairman of the time John Paton (a year before the souness signing) saying when interviewed that the stadium was paid for and the money coming in from our pools operation would be invested in the team now which is what happened when the magnificent bastard walked in the door.
 
I never liked Ferguson as a player and utterly detested the bully merchant he became at Man U.
Despite that, I have no idea why he’s supposed to be blamed for the first goal in the 1969 cup final.
 
struth 1872 said:
I remember the chairman of the time John Paton (a year before the souness signing) saying when interviewed that the stadium was paid for and the money coming in from our pools operation would be invested in the team now which is what happened when the magnificent bastard walked in the door.
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The Rangers pools made Rangers the wealthiest club in Britain.
 
An absolute legend of British football and have a great respect for what he did at Utd.

Also a friend of a friend is good pals with SAF and can testify that no matter what he’s said or done over the years he is very much still one of us.
 
A lot of people saying the wife story is nonsense but his most recent Amazon documentary featured it quite heavily.

All put together by his very bitter son Jason.
 
AzorIbrox said:
A lot of people saying the wife story is nonsense but his most recent Amazon documentary featured it quite heavily.

All put together by his very bitter son Jason.
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It wasn't nonsense - his book had just recently came out and it was one of the points of conversation when the Rangers executive boxes were officially opened. Think it was NY day or 02 Jan 1990 or 1991 against a.deen. Other than the day, I remember Walters got the winner.

Anyway, he told lies about Rangers purely to sell books.
 
Jan Wyck said:
Correct.

What we see nowadays is not a new phenomenon from them.
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That's the way I remember it.
Decent player Fergie, but Colin Stein was better.
I think he took it personal & the bullshit that his brother was a septic fan, load of bollocks
Martin Ferguson still comes into the Masonic club in milngavie although he's got something do with Airdrie.
Some career Alex carved out for himself & I remember as an apprentice going to "Fergies bar " at Paisley road toll ( Davie Provan one of the barmen )& he was Rangers daft, good craic & a good host
 
There’s people that you can genuinely say are True Blue all the way through, even years after they left the club. Sir Ferguson ain’t one of them.
 
mkgers said:
SAF speaking at a ceremony for graduates of Gary Neville's university (who knew?)

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There is a lot of bollocks about his time at The Famous but at the end of it all, he’s loves us the same as we do !
 
its_an_extender said:
Can still remember him referring to us as 'that other mob across the city ' when doing a speech at the lisbon lions 50th anniversary dinner.
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Playing to the crowd clearly.

I was lucky enough to personally spend some time with him and during conversation he referred to Celtic saying "fucking typical of those bastards" (not in a Rangers context either)
 
bluebeak said:
That story is nonsense. We brought in a better player to replace him. I was a big Fergie fan when he played for us but, if his wife was the reason we got rid, why did he go to Falkirk? If he was as good a player as he thought he was why didn’t he go to Arsenal or Everton or City?
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It’s not. He’s said it himself in an interview. There’s a documentary made within the last few years where he addresses it. Rangers handled the situation poorly IMO.
 
Always a divisive conversation about Ferguson!

For me, he’s a Rangers man and while he doesn’t flaunt it, he equally doesn’t hide it.
When he came up against Rangers in competition he always been desperate to win though, as he should be.
Ferguson was a the manager of football clubs, it was his job to make the best chance for them to win their matches - he was very good at it.

With regard to the book from 2004/5 or whenever it was.. Ferguson’s stock was at an all-time high at that point, the last thing he was going to do in a book was say that he had made a mistake as a player that had contributed to a cup defeat, or conclude that he wasn’t good enough to nail down a first team place.
He deflected with a story that it was someone else’s fault.
That’s human nature IMHO.

Ferguson’s values are rooted in his upbringing - in Govan, and in Rangers FC. He celebrates that regularly.
 
crmpicco said:
It’s not. He’s said it himself in an interview. There’s a documentary made within the last few years where he addresses it. Rangers handled the situation poorly IMO.
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So you think he was a better player than Colin Stein? As I said, if he was such a good player and we were getting rid of him for a bag of nuts, why didn’t he go to a bigger club than Falkirk?
 
Clicker said:
Colin Stein was ambushed by two sleekit mentally challengeds, one who provoked him enough to get him sent off, and one who had influence over the SFA to get him banned long enough to miss the final.
An enemy like no other, indeed.
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dixonofdockblu said:
When he was St Mirren manager Fergie came to my school to present us with our medals for winning the cup .We felt that he didn't want to be there as he was stroppy and generally unpleasant , even lightly slapping one of the players for being boisterous , this was in front of the whole school assembly.
The following year former Rangers player Ian Munro came and presented us with our league winners medals. He couldn't have been any nicer asking us about our positions and team formations etc .
The contrast between the two was night and day.
This was at Renfrew High School season 74/75 and 75/76.
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Iain Munro was a gentleman.Met him through a friend and he sorted us out with tickets on more than one occasion.He couldn’t have been any nicer.
 
I keep reading that Ferguson was a failure at Rangers but as someone who watched him during his time at the club I can say that he gave 100% every game, he wasn't anywhere near Colin Stein as a front man but he was never a failure as his goals tally will tell you. 36 goals in 68 appearances was a great return. For those interested the person that seemed to be against his marriage apparently because of his wife's religion was Willie Allison, he wasn't a director of the club but was a close friend of John Lawrence back then.
Whilst at Aberdeen as manager Ferguson liked nothing better than putting it to us and the east end hovel dwellers.
 
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