Not really, the shoulder and the foot were the nearest, usable, points on the players nearest to goal. The moving about was them moving the line by 1 pixel to the left or right until they had it lined up. When the semi-automated stuff comes in next season that will be a thing of the past anyway.
I'm not sure it can be said to be "correct" when the offside is as marginal as it comes based on lines placed subjectively.
Nah we will carry on with lines that are practically touching the corner of a six yard box at one end and a yard off it at the other up here.
The lines are on the money. Its tight but you can see when they zoom in they have them correct. You'd rather rely on the Linesman's Mk 1 eyeball? He gave offside as the onfield decision too by the way. Something that nobody seems to mention.
VAR Lite they call it. To be introduced to the mighty Welsh Premier League next season.
No, apparently we would rather just moan about VAR.
It absolutely does matter when the difference also means a red card.
Folk are debating the cross hairs not because of what they see on the screen for that particular match though, but to re-inforce whatever their current opinion of VAR in general happens to be - generally its the naysayers who are going down the cross hairs route.
Wasnt it souness that said it on talksport?You hear him say send that to the TV so that should confirm that they aren’t in direct conversation with the commentators which was a ludicrous discussion on here the other week.
Likewise didn't finish it, better things to do than have my brain fried.
That's a little binary. The technology has seemed to work well in our Europa games but for some reason its use in the EPL and SPFL is farcical.
The semi-automated stuff in the Champions League works very well. Decisions in the Europa League can, occasionally, be flaky but its generally well applied. SPFL though, despite us now getting penalties we wouldn't have otherwise, is still a mess. VAR Lite, as we have, with its limited cameras, does improve things but when we compare it to elsewhere we look awful. In England I think the issue is with their interpretation and application rather than the tech. They take a different line to UEFA on a few matters I believe.
But the "dive" wasn't awarded as a penalty
It was yeah.
Because if it wasn't offside, it'd be a goal
Agree with this and it's an important point. We need to apply an element of reasonableness to decision making and be okay with it. We can have some debate about decisions backed up by a reasonable process which keeps the flow of the game going, or debate based on farcical obsessing over subjective mm decisions which take several minutes without providing absolute clarity.
An enjoyable spectator sport first and foremost. VAR kills the spirit of the game.
When there’s multi-millions of pounds at stake it’s reasonable to expect the governing bodies to do all they can to minimise erroneous decisions. VAR tech helps to do that.
ItYou hear him say send that to the TV so that should confirm that they aren’t in direct conversation with the commentators which was a ludicrous discussion on here the other week.
It was Tom English who said that they can hear every word the var guys are saying but can’t talk to them when he was talking about our game v CelticYou hear him say send that to the TV so that should confirm that they aren’t in direct conversation with the commentators which was a ludicrous discussion on here the other week.
We played a game recently where they couldn't afford a pump to blow the balls up.
Scottish VAR is the Woolworths version
I think its 3 from 15.
Thats not true. If it was given as not offside, they could/should have still sent him off for the same reason.
shouldnt they have reviewed it in the other order though? check the pen then everything else is ignored? took far too long do it the wrong way round i agree.
25 frames per second apparently. Was discussed when they were analysing Coventry's offside goal v Man Utd last week.
Post #19, #22 and #68 cover that mate. I’d also add that the only decision taken at that stage was that of the Linesman, who flagged for offside.
But they got the decisions right?
It's serious foul play. He was getting sent off whatever the decision was.
Yep. I watched that game live and the sequence of events in that period of play was mad, they reached the right decisions in the right order there.
Yip. Subjective and open to abuse. Plus measuring it to the split second of when the ball was struck. This is why I think there needs to be a margin of error built in for offsides. No way they're as accurate as they like to pretend they are. Quite honestly, if they need to decide if someone is a millimetre onside or a millimetre offside, they can give it whatever way they choose and it's impossible to prove otherwise.
No because Chelsea's goal would have been awarded if the offside was not correct. They had to start with that.
Not sure they could have done it any quicker.
Exactly my point. This is what modern football is reduced to: money.
What I took from the offside call was that it was as precise as it can possibly be with the technology available. The VAR team (3 people?) worked together using the technology to come to the correct decision. It's amazes me that people can't accept offside calls or want to introduce a margin of error or let tight calls go.
Can go watch the Juniors if you really fancy the ‘old school’ experience I guess.
Tackles and everything, club officials running the line.
I’m old fashioned, I liked the game the way it wasCan go watch the Juniors if you really fancy the ‘old school’ experience I guess.
VAR isn’t going away. Not in the top leagues at least.
