If anything, what Sterling has said should be a catalyst for the whole team to reset and start playing as they were doing after PC came in.
'We just gradually dropped points and didn't win old firms'.
They've absolutely scunnered me, our support falls for the same shit every season.
I was responding to a claim that we collapse at the same time every season and showing that it isn't the case.
I was thinking along these lines with Lundstram. Got the finger out for a while and played well, obviously expecting x amount and been told what he's getting and reverted to type.
Mate I honestly don’t care whether it’s been exactly the same time or a month or two of a difference, the truth is that after Christmas this team have a history of collapsing.
Your 100% correct but you’ll still be met with the usual “you don’t know what you have until there gone” or “he scores goals and gets assists” patter from the happy clappers
Just watched it again. He looked nervous and out his comfort zone but it was actually outstanding. A real man and potentially a real Rangers captain.
Have we not been doing that these past 5 years and still not getting it right?
It didn't though. 19/20 yes, our form collapsed after Christmas, when one of the players you are picking on, Tavernier, was injured. Consensus at the time was that his injury was a huge reason for our loss of form. 21/22, we were dropping points all over from day 1. Malmo papped us out of the CL in August. Gerrard had lost it and we all knew it at the time. It wasn't a player mentality thing, the whole thing just went wrong and that started with Gerrard. It wasn't a collapse comparable to this to this one. 22/23, again, we were dropping points from the beginning. It wasn't a collapse, they hammered us 4-0 in September and were simply a far better team with better players and manager. And again, an injury to one of the players you are choosing to pick on was the number one reason for us dropping points (Goldson). We only dropped points in 1 single game outside the old firms that Goldson played in, and it was due to a red that wasn't a red to Lundstram at Easter Road.
Even stop to think it's maybe you in the wrong then if most of us can see it?
I stopped reading posts ago
Mate, you believe what you want to and I will. However, there is a player within that dressing room calling out and questioning the mentality. As a new younger player to the group, he’s certainly not looking at Ridvan, Dessers etc for inspiration and how playing for a club like us works.
So it hasn’t happened apart from all those times it’s happened?
Good luck.
Very funny, but I explained that it wasn't a single collapse most seasons and the wide variety of easily identifiable reasons for dropped points, as well as the fact that the players being singled out were often not even playing during those games and their absence was a key reason for the loss of form. The opposite of what is being said, which is that they were at fault then and are now. 19/20 is the most comparable (though it was mid-season not end of season) and only 1 remaining player was playing when the collapse happened. It's absolutely laughable to say it proves that this current collapse has happened due to the mentality of 1 player. Fans love an easy answer and it's human nature to want someone to blame, but this current collapse is more complex than that.
The majority are wrong more often than not on this forum, there is a huge echo chamber effect. Just open any transfer thread we've ever had. Open a lot of threads from 2 months ago. There is a huge amount of revisionism going on right now. Go back to Jan 2020 and Tav’s injury has killed us, look back 4 years later and it's his mentality that killed us, even though he wasn't playing when our form collapsed. Go back 1 year and Goldson’s injuries had killed us and King and Sands were nowhere good enough to step in. Almost everyone was agreed because the evidence was clear. A year later and his mentality was the problem all along, even though he wasn't playing.
Lucky you're here to keep us right!
He's sitting in the class boring the tits off of everyone convinced he's correct.
Ok, but you deserve the same if they are replaced and we don't suddenly start winning leagues. There won't be such an easy target then at least.
Which if true is shocking. Never mind the glory or personal pride of lifting a league title trophy … just geez the money.
You better not drop him , every Bear ive spoke to about this is in agreement that he said the right things.
He won’t get dropped for having an opinion.
Hope not mate, really hope not.
The core of this team has had plenty of defeats and bad performances and clearly learned nothing.
That's a really weak comment from Big Phil towards Sterling. I wonder what he would say if he saw the video of Goldson a very experiences player & his comments after that hibs match!
I wouldn't be so sure, i think Clement was known for being a bit of strict disciplinarian at previous clubs, if he feels DS has broke some rule of his he may well drop him?
I’d imagine the manager agrees with him but would rather it’s kept under wraps for the time being.
We got to the last hurdle and the same people bottled it and the negativity spread through the team again.
He's trying to keep this stuff 'in house', that's all
Again, when you say ‘this team’ who exactly are you referring to?
That might be what he was trying to do but the words used by Phil, I think throw Sterling under the bus as he's made him sound like some inexperienced young player who didnt know what he was saying which ,I think would hack off Sterling.
It sounded like Big Phil was happy to criticise Sterling for basically telling the truth and having a large % the support on his side.
The referencing of Van Dijk is pretty fucking weird it has to be said.
