Stevie G equals Walters European win record

[WinkieWATP]

Gerrard has the same number of European games as Rodgers but the difference between their results is incredible. Did they only make the CL once under him or was it two?

And that sunbed loving egotistical super coach had 10 £50m players at his disposal

 

[DotMantooth]

No idea what the weighting is, but how can Jock Wallace be so low, when he's only one of two men to have won a European trophy for Rangers and Celtic?

 

[VelvetOrange]

Doesnt feel like Walter really had much success except the standouts 92-93 and 07-08 . Nor Advocaat , because we under achieved!
For Stevie G to take on the team he did and to eclipse in less than 3 years in amazing.

 

[VelvetOrange]

No idea what the weighting is, but how can Jock Wallace be so low, when he's only one of two men to have won a European trophy for Rangers and Celtic?

Jock was coach in 72 , not manager. Jock never made it past November.

 

[SouthCoastLoyal]

Our style of play is really suited to European football. Teams don’t sit back and park the bus like the jobbers in Scotland. Leaves loads of space for our dangerous players to exploit.

It must be a shock to the system for the players when we play in Europe and opposition teams actually try and attack.

 

[DotMantooth]

Jock was coach in 72 , not manager. Jock never made it past November.

Apologies, honestly no idea what i was thinking.

 

[barrheadbear]

Don't know if this has already been posted but just mentioned that on STV Sport.

23 wins for both Stevie and Walter, Advocaat in 3rd place with 22 wins.

That is amazing in just 3 years.

Walter was in charge for 79 games to achieve his 23 wins which unfortunately shows just how poor tactically his sides were when playing teams not from these shores.

Despite having a squad of quality during his first term in charge, including Gazza, Laudrup, McCoist, Gough, Goram, etc we were absolutely crap, under performing season on season with the exception of 92/93.

After our disastrous Euro results at start of season 97/98. losing to Gothenberg in CL qualifier, followed by Strasbourg in EL qualifier Murray had had enough with our continued failure in Europe and demanded Wattie leave at the end of that season.

 

[bilkobear]

I don't think it is comparable. We could win a cup in 1972 beating an average French team, good Portuguese, top notch German and Russian teams. That is better than beating some of the poor teams we have to play now in those qualifying rounds.

You can only beat what is in front of you and '72 threw up a very difficult route to the final.
However, European football has changed considerably and the game is now a worldwide sport, where the best players all fill European teams.
Most European club sides are bulked out by South Americans, Africans and East Asians most of an international standing.
Eleven Scotsmen will never win a European trophy ever again because you simply cannot produce the necessary quality in a country of five million when the competition is drawn from the best part of eight billion people.

 

[bilkobear]

Walter was in charge for 79 games to achieve his 23 wins which unfortunately shows just how poor tactically his sides were when playing teams not from these shores.

Despite having a squad of quality during his first term in charge, including Gazza, Laudrup, McCoist, Gough, Goram, etc we were absolutely crap, under performing season on season with the exception of 92/93.

After our disastrous Euro results at start of season 97/98. losing to Gothenberg in CL qualifier, followed by Strasbourg in EL qualifier Murray had had enough with our continued failure in Europe and demanded Wattie leave at the end of that season.

Walter was never a great tactical mind in Europe.
I always thought that Walter was a great counter-attacking strategist who could never make his mind up whether to stick or twist when he had quality players at his disposal.
In the end, too often he twisted and got done by tactics he would have preferred to use himself but felt obliged not to.

Ironically in his second spell when he had a poorer set of players, he got to a European final using his instinctively preferred counter-attacking game plan.

Domestically Walter was a genius.