kclarkhall
Well-Known Member
You seem to have given up
Nah mate I can just accept reality, sick of living in hope with this lot.
You seem to have given up
Don't think he is arguing this, more that tavanier is an "almost" manYoure attempting to win an debate about Tav not being a serial loser by quoting a final he lost
Interesting tactic
My biggest fear is we win the title and the club decides to keep the core players thinking they are good enough to go another season!
There’s not much the guy can really say though. He’s definitely part of the issue, but no player is going to stand and say they find it hard to retain their composure in the pressure of a title race, especially if he’s the captain. I understand why fans get wound up though. I just hope when the summer comes we finally shake hands with players like Tavernier, Lundstram and Goldson and say goodbye.Same old shit.
Learn from the previous defeats, dust yourself off, but that has been a precursor after every defeat.
We will learn. Not.
No you fucking havent. Dont talk shite. Do you think a stadium of fans agree with you. Nup.
A presser is means nothing to me either now. All bullshit, smoke and mirrors.
I do like Tav but he is in denial and coming out with shite, every time we lose.
Not this pish we will learn from it scenario rubbish.
Well Tav, you have been beaten by a shite team, 11th in the league.
They were demoted. And you didn't turn up. Again.
That wee lady's front bottom just last week showed you up in seconds.
But, hey ho, just learn by mistakes everything will be fine next week.
There’s not much the guy can really say though. He’s definitely part of the issue, but no player is going to stand and say they find it hard to retain their composure in the pressure of a title race, especially if he’s the captain. I understand why fans get wound up though. I just hope when the summer comes we finally shake hands with players like Tavernier, Lundstram and Goldson and say goodbye.
The pair of them Billy big balls types who have been running the team for 3/4 years, 55 was won despite them not because of them.Same, 4 players that will give 100% and at least attempt to do the basics. If Goldson was 10% of the player he seems to think he is he'd be the best centre half in Europe.
We're still wearing the scars of being labeled as the worst team in CL history after winning 55. (not true, but labeled that).But if we do win the league then what more can the core do to prove itself? Weird to be fearful that this group might achieve too much success this season..
Another record which is ridiculous is that he's now on his SEVENTH manager since joining us. And if Clement doesn't recognise that this serial loser needs either (1) moved on or (2) stripped of the captaincy and shifted to RW where he can't commit any more defensive calamities, Tav will see him off the premises too.Tav is a running theme since he became a Rangers player, i find myself often in discussions with mates regarding Tav and feel i am in the majority. Yes for a full back his goal scoring record is ridiculous however, what record is also ridiculous is the amount of mistakes he continues to make at the back as he cant defend and has never been able to defend. People need to realise that playing Tav along with chum Goldson who hasnt kicked a ball in the past year will continue to cause the same problems.
Then I’m guessing we’ll be back here next season having this same discussion for the 7th or 8th time.But we wont. Given that Tavs scoring rate is superb, he knows he is going nowhere. Fair play to him.
Tav is lucky we don’t have someone to take over for him.
Yes, with him playing a starting role in that defeat.......yet again.No, what people are annoyed at is that we lost the game.
Hardly, the goals came through having no midfield, County walked through us at ease.Yes, with him playing a starting role in that defeat.......yet again.
Never is his fault.Hardly, the goals came through having no midfield, County walked through us at ease.
You want his after match interview to be his resignation?Yes, with him playing a starting role in that defeat.......yet again.
We're not talking about last week.Never is his fault.
He's posted missing from his position, but that's the midfield's fault.
Wasn't his fault for the Maeda goal last week either. Tbe tims only attack that position every game, amd getting joy, because they know the midfield is weak.
Rinse and repeat every season.
You say we've no one to take over from him. How about trying out Sterling in his natural position ? Just a thought.Tav is lucky we don’t have someone to take over for him.
We should try this at least.
Butland
Tav
Soutter
Balogan
Yilmaz
Sterling
Cantwell
Lawrence
McCausland
Sima
Matondo
How many lessons to this lot need.
I mentioned yesterday. Yesterday for the 2nd he decided to inexplicably push right up the park when their right back had the ball, the ball is quicky played into midfield and quickly out to the massive space he's vacated. They knew fine well where we were weak.We're not talking about last week.
He's posted missing from his position because we play him as a fuckin right winger basically until that changes he will always be caught up the park, it's not rocket science.
The manager sat and watched us being over run in the midfield and did nothing to stop it.
I don't give a flying f*** what repetitive pish he hits out with after another failureYou want his after match interview to be his resignation?
I do agree on that. But I think Sterling is beneficial to being more in around the midfield.You say we've no one to take over from him. How about trying out Sterling in his natural position ? Just a thought.
Fair point - but a very sad reflection on our midfield recruitmentI do agree on that. But I think Sterling is beneficial to being more in around the midfield.
Recruitment in general mate.Fair point - but a very sad reflection on our midfield recruitment
Then why are you even on the thread?I don't give a flying f*** what repetitive pish he hits out with after another failure
Because I correctly assumed after 6 pages a lot more would be discussed than Tav's post match interview.Then why are you even on the thread?
I think most would rather another leader who knows how to win, so that we don’t need to listen to his post match speeches after a loss.What else will he say?
"Awrite mate, aye, we're shite we're just going to pack up our bags and call it a day eh"
Fair enough. There is no need for 6 pages to be honest. He said what he has to say in this kind of interview and people angry that we lost are angry at anything that anyone says because they are angry that we lost.Because I correctly assumed after 6 pages a lot more would be discussed than Tav's post match interview.
Daft question.
Agreed. Especially when it's the same line after every failure he plays a massive part in.Fair enough. There is no need for 6 pages to be honest. He said what he has to say in this kind of interview and people angry that we lost are angry at anything that anyone says because they are angry that we lost.
Yep, he’s not a patch on Gough or Greig where we won every single game against every single opponent.Agreed. Especially when it's the same line after every failure he plays a massive part in.
Interesting. So you reckon this thread shouldn't have lasted 6 pages, from your last post, yet you've contributed massively for it to get that number with daft, petty arguments like that.Yep, he’s not a patch on Gough or Greig where we won every single game against every single opponent.
DittoSame old shite we've been hearing for 7 of the last 8 years.
It is to demonstrate how ridiculous you are being. You want a Captain who doesn’t make mistakes and wins every game. None of our captains have ever been that player.Interesting. So you reckon this thread shouldn't have lasted 6 pages, from your last post, yet you've contributed massively for it to get that number with daft, petty arguments like that.
And honestly, it's quite embarrassing using Gough and Greig to make a sarcy point about Tav.
I'll settle for him not giving daft goals away against Ross County.
Thats a pathetic, low brow attempt at shutting down the debate.It is to demonstrate how ridiculous you are being. You want a Captain who doesn’t make mistakes and wins every game. None of our captains have ever been that player.
Thanks for your interest.Thats a pathetic, low brow attempt at shutting down the debate.
Like, really pathetic.
It is to demonstrate how ridiculous you are being. You want a Captain who doesn’t make mistakes and wins every game. None of our captains have ever been that player.
Mut be a record.Same old shite we've been hearing for 7 of the last 8 years.