I thought the exact same until I was told it's in The Times.Pretty sure this looks edited and has 3 curser marks. I might be wrong wrong.
Edit - been told it is real, apologies.
I thought the exact same until I was told it's in The Times.Pretty sure this looks edited and has 3 curser marks. I might be wrong wrong.
Edit - been told it is real, apologies.
I‘m only guessing here but I’d say there would be three elements making up the ‘debt’: the unpaid tax, the interest due on the unpaid tax and a penalty for the non-payment of the tax. So, if I’m correct, I don’t think there would be interest on the (now abandoned) penalty.
Just a guess, I stress.
Pretty much my guess as well. It’s mibee me and semantics but the letter only refers to penalties and not penalties plus interest pertaining to them! I suppose the question should be is interest due on unpaid penalties.
The big thing for me in it all is that the penalties were waved but still somehow formed part of any discussion about the total and were seemingly included when a CVA was being attempted
The HMRC vote on the CVA did not include the EBT figures. It was the tax and VAT Whyte hadn't paid, plus the "wee tax case" which was accepted as due.
That gave HMRC way over the 25% they needed to block a CVA taking place, which is their normal position for football clubs.
I think this is where the Ticketus verdict shows what went on.
On the 09/05/2011 instead of providing funds (£18M) to Bidco for the acquisition of the shares in Rangers, Whyte bought the shares for £1 and the funds were provided direct to Rangers
I am in no way able to explain this situation in legal terms but for me this needs to be explained by Murray why the terms of sale were suddenly amended allowing Whyte to purchase the shares for the £1
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Can Whyte be sued by HMRC for non payment of tax ? He took the tax from the players wages so is that not tax evasion ?
Actually, I was thinking exactly that myself.
Whether or not Murray knew what the ramifications of his actions would ultimately mean for Rangers, he owes it to the club and the fans to explain how this whole debacle came about. Knowing full well what the history, the institution of Rangers FC, has meant for Scottish football, and the passion felt for the club by so many people around the world, a statement from his perspective, clarifying what exactly led to the disaster is the very least Murray should be expected to do.
Because he was allowed to, didn't suit the narrative that it could be his dodgy dealings and not big bad Rangers fault!To this day it still baffles me how he got away with it.
It's theft.Can Whyte be sued by HMRC for non payment of tax ? He took the tax from the players wages so is that not tax evasion ?
Bought the club with their own money then loaded it with debt which paid them back their purchase price and more.Is this not what the Glazers did with Man Utd?
It's theft.
It is the Employees responsibility to make sure Tax is paid, not the Employers even though he has deducted it from your wages. I know this, because it happened to me.
Logic would say you are right though, that its Theft but Logic does not seem to apply, to US!
It's def the Employers responsibility, hence the utter raft of penalties against Employers for non payment of tax.
If there is ever a circumstance where an employee has had tax & ni deducted and this has not been paid over to HMRC by the Employer, the Employee will still get the credit for it in their tax & ni accounts.
That is not what I was to;d in Kirkcaldy Tax Office a few years ago, where in one hand I had the Payslip showing my Employer had deducted the Tax and in the other hand, the Bill that, Kirkcaldy Tax Office, had sent me.
I'd go back to them mate if you didn't get credit for the tax on that payslip. You may well have just come up against an unknowledgeable member of HMRC staff which isn't unusual.
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The "Players" can now ignore the Tax Demands.
The "Players" can now ignore the Tax Demands.
Nail on the head mate.Because he was allowed to, didn't suit the narrative that it could be his dodgy dealings and not big bad Rangers fault!
Not sure I know what you mean, but I think your talking about HMRC chasing players for tax that should have been paid over by Whyte - that isn't what they are chasing the players for. The players are being chased for tax relating to the EBTs.
Without getting overly technical,lets say Player A was paid £100,000 under an EBT when had it been done under PAYE he would have received £65,000 say with Whyte sending the £35,000 to HMRC. As the EBTs didnt work, they now want that tax. As it was never deducted by the Employer in the first place, it is not the Employers responsibilty, it is the employees.
I don’t think that is correct either. See the copy of the letter on the previous page and discussion thereon. Looks like they’ve had new letters discounting the penalty element. The tax due, and the interest thereon, still applies.
This, of course, is in relation to their benefits from EBTs.
Exactly this. Who took the decision to force Rangers into Liquidation and thereby accepting that no tax would be recovered rather than doing a deal that would benefit all tax payers.Another question that’s not been answered is why did HMRC allow Whyte to run up a tax bill over 9 months when at nearly the same period they slapped Hearts with 3 winding up orders over several months for non payment after 30 days?
Considering the amount HMRC leaked about other issues at Rangers I find it incredible that barley a sniff of what was really going on made it into the press over such a long period.
If they had stepped in around September/October time I suspect the outcome would have been drastically different. Almost like they wanted to sit back and do nothing to give them more debt and a bigger percentage of any CVA vote.
So hows does it work then with them claiming tax off the club if they are also claiming it off the players? Surely its one or the other?
It’s everyone’s responsibility individual or limited company. But in this case the employee did not know they hadn't paid tax, their payslip showed the deduction, it was the company that did not pay it.That is not what I was told in Kirkcaldy Tax Office a few years ago, where in one hand I had the Payslip showing my Employer had deducted the Tax and in the other hand, the Bill that, Kirkcaldy Tax Office, had sent me.
PS; Why was the Tax man chasing the Players (Employees), when Whyte (Employer) took the Tax, and did not pay it?
PPS; And not for the first time LOL.
FFS....none the wiser after trying to follow that !The Man The Beasts Can't Tame has another blog up, no idea how credible his information is but this stuff involving McLaughlin, McBride and other slime balls wouldn't surprise me at all.
RANGERS TAX CASE UNCOVERED. BBC SCOTLAND PRODUCER PAUL BRADLEY, CHRIS MCLAUGHLIN AND KENNY MILLER’S AGENT
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Not the only one. Difficult to read and to understandFFS....none the wiser after trying to follow that !
FFS....none the wiser after trying to follow that !
Am I correct that Whyte did take Tax of the Players (PAYE) and did not pay it to the Taxman and not for the first time.