This Board’s last chance.

Here we go again. Same nonsense posts get posted every now and again.

The boars who are currently in place running the whole club are voted into position by the shareholders at the yearly AGM. Every year shareholders get the chance to vote them out. Every year these mystery billionaire fans waiting in the wings have the opportunity to buy up enough shares to challenge the current board like King etc did. This isn't happening and there is zero talk of anyone even looking at doing this.

I will explain why and maybe people cam read and understand how current Football Finances and FFP works once and for all.

A person or persons wanting to own Rangers at this time would require to buy 51% of the club would have the control of decision. That would cost about £56m for that percentage. He would be required to offer same share price to everyone else. If its accepted his total outlay is £112m.

So that get him the stadium, training ground, players, and brand. Most importantly he gets access to our bank account. At start of season it has season ticket money and maybe Castore money. Not enough to pay our yearly costs.

It also gives him an overall funding bill of about £90m (roughly our outlay each year) We generally have an income about the same so zero profit and in the majority of recent years a loss. The new owner would need to cover this loss. This would generally mean issuing himself new shares and covering the losses. Like we done fro. When King etc came in all through the Gerrard rebuild.

Now this cannot continue to happen as FFP get involved as we cannot keep making losses and using the owners own personally money to just issue himself new shares to cover losses. We end up putting our European License at risk.

So this new owner needs to find new ways of bringing money in. The commercial and sponsorship situation is at an all time high. We are doing great making what we do playing in Scotland. The new owner cannot do a Man City and just create false companies with false sponsorship deals at stupid valuations so he can keep pumping his own money in to fund buying players etc. So that won't happen. He cannot name Ibrox the Mystery Billionaire.com stadium for £200m because again the price of that deal doesn't justify the actual valuation to his company. Wouldn't be allowed.

So see what you have would be a bottomless pit where the owner would need to keep losing his own money repeatedly somehow to just try and compete with Celtic. There isn't a single person or company that would or could run the club this way. Money needs to come in from genuine legal firms. Like prizemoney, sponsorship, commercial, season ticket, ticket sales, European money, transfers. That's it. Not from an owners own pocket.

Tavernieeeerr above is correct 100% the Footballing board is the issue. That needs to be changes completely to actual people who have experience running just the football department.

The manager will get funded with what the club can afford from the clubs income stream. Not outside income or the boards own income.
 
What’s our long term solution if we continue to have a frequent turnaround of managers and lose the league 90% of the time?
Why will we have a frequent turnover of managers?

The board appointed an experienced proven winner in Clement, then appointed a Head of Recruitment in Koppen who has a good record of talent spotting.

The board need to ignore the noise, back them as best we can afford, and give them time to do it right.

No matter who is in charge, we can’t match Celtics spending, that’s the reality, so we will always be fighting an uphill battle, we can’t just keep binning managers, DoF’s and board members if we don’t get immediate success.
 
A lot of people conveniently forget that when we won 55, we had just come off the back of a FY with income impacted by Covid and on top of that we were under FFP watch. That is why Gerrard had little to spend. He then decided to move on and we haven't recovered yet on the park

Since then, the purse strings have loosened a little as both Gio and Beale were given money to spend, Beale moreso.

As for boardroom change, has there not been a fair bit in the last few years? No King, Parks and Robertson as CEO
 
When we won 55 Gerrard said:

"We need to fix the roof while the sun is shining"

The board completely ignored that and, to this day, this is why we have been a shitshow since.

On and off the pitch we are a fucking mess.

And all the while, the mentally challengeds are racking up titles. They are going for 55 next season and at this rate they will get it and before you know it they will be at 56.

On and off the pitch we are handing titles to them.

Where is the leadership? Where is the ambition ? Where is the vision ??
 
Here we go again. Same nonsense posts get posted every now and again.

The boars who are currently in place running the whole club are voted into position by the shareholders at the yearly AGM. Every year shareholders get the chance to vote them out. Every year these mystery billionaire fans waiting in the wings have the opportunity to buy up enough shares to challenge the current board like King etc did. This isn't happening and there is zero talk of anyone even looking at doing this.

I will explain why and maybe people cam read and understand how current Football Finances and FFP works once and for all.

A person or persons wanting to own Rangers at this time would require to buy 51% of the club would have the control of decision. That would cost about £56m for that percentage. He would be required to offer same share price to everyone else. If its accepted his total outlay is £112m.

So that get him the stadium, training ground, players, and brand. Most importantly he gets access to our bank account. At start of season it has season ticket money and maybe Castore money. Not enough to pay our yearly costs.

It also gives him an overall funding bill of about £90m (roughly our outlay each year) We generally have an income about the same so zero profit and in the majority of recent years a loss. The new owner would need to cover this loss. This would generally mean issuing himself new shares and covering the losses. Like we done fro. When King etc came in all through the Gerrard rebuild.

Now this cannot continue to happen as FFP get involved as we cannot keep making losses and using the owners own personally money to just issue himself new shares to cover losses. We end up putting our European License at risk.

So this new owner needs to find new ways of bringing money in. The commercial and sponsorship situation is at an all time high. We are doing great making what we do playing in Scotland. The new owner cannot do a Man City and just create false companies with false sponsorship deals at stupid valuations so he can keep pumping his own money in to fund buying players etc. So that won't happen. He cannot name Ibrox the Mystery Billionaire.com stadium for £200m because again the price of that deal doesn't justify the actual valuation to his company. Wouldn't be allowed.

So see what you have would be a bottomless pit where the owner would need to keep losing his own money repeatedly somehow to just try and compete with Celtic. There isn't a single person or company that would or could run the club this way. Money needs to come in from genuine legal firms. Like prizemoney, sponsorship, commercial, season ticket, ticket sales, European money, transfers. That's it. Not from an owners own pocket.

Tavernieeeerr above is correct 100% the Footballing board is the issue. That needs to be changes completely to actual people who have experience running just the football department.

The manager will get funded with what the club can afford from the clubs income stream. Not outside income or the boards own income.
And 62% of the shares are currently held by 8 non-selling owners (inc Club 1872).
 
What is it you want the board to change from what they are doing now? Genuine question.
Stop wasting money. Stop being happy with the status quo. Stop rinsing fans for every penny they can get for not a lot in return. Stop giving us mediocrity and accepting it.

Stop treating the club as a job and treat it as a passion, as a culture and something that makes the fans proud.

Start employing people who can actually do their jobs that enable us to challenge for, and win, titles. And I’m not talking about our first team manager.

Loads and loads of stuff. If your happy with the status quo and think the board are doing a good job in the grand scheme of things, then perhaps your ideas as to what a successful Rangers looks like is skewed.
 
When we won 55 Gerrard said:

"We need to fix the roof while the sun is shining"

The board completely ignored that and, to this day, this is why we have been a shitshow since.

On and off the pitch we are a fucking mess.

And all the while, the mentally challengeds are racking up titles. They are going for 55 next season and at this rate they will get it and before you know it they will be at 56.

On and off the pitch we are handing titles to them.

Where is the leadership? Where is the ambition ? Where is the vision ??

It will be interesting to see if some folk change their tune if we have the misfortune to watch this play out in real time.

We need domestic success and we need it now.
It’s imperative we get recruitment right this upcoming window. On Rangers.
 
No doubt issues exist at board level and the Pedro and Beale appointments showed that - but what can they do about Tavernier not being able to concentrate for 30 seconds in the biggest OF game at Ibrox for years or the culture at the club which lead to losing at Dingwall and being terrified of Celtic?

We should have won the league this season and blew it.

That's very much on the team management to sort out and Clement and Koppen were brought in to do that.
 
Bad situation we are in. We need a reset. Our squad is horrific, but we’ve spent plenty of cash for it to be that bad. Needs ripped up and started again.

Problem is, no time is given for that. Due to poor decisions and poor outcomes on the park we have beggars lording it up over us for years and are already winning most trophies.

So the thought of making tough, long term calls that might mean couple more difficult years is hard to stomach. Feels like we then just gamble on signing 10 players again and hoping that couple of them might produce something.
 
Yep Mark. We have Rangers people with a major overall control who aren't interested in letting the club fall into the hands of people like Ashley, Green or that American woman..

Exactly - your earluer post was excellent, btw.

We all want a winning team but the safety of the club in the post covid, FFP era - especially with so many desperate to stick the boot in again - is the most important factor.
 
Here we go again. Same nonsense posts get posted every now and again.

The boars who are currently in place running the whole club are voted into position by the shareholders at the yearly AGM. Every year shareholders get the chance to vote them out. Every year these mystery billionaire fans waiting in the wings have the opportunity to buy up enough shares to challenge the current board like King etc did. This isn't happening and there is zero talk of anyone even looking at doing this.

I will explain why and maybe people cam read and understand how current Football Finances and FFP works once and for all.

A person or persons wanting to own Rangers at this time would require to buy 51% of the club would have the control of decision. That would cost about £56m for that percentage. He would be required to offer same share price to everyone else. If its accepted his total outlay is £112m.

So that get him the stadium, training ground, players, and brand. Most importantly he gets access to our bank account. At start of season it has season ticket money and maybe Castore money. Not enough to pay our yearly costs.

It also gives him an overall funding bill of about £90m (roughly our outlay each year) We generally have an income about the same so zero profit and in the majority of recent years a loss. The new owner would need to cover this loss. This would generally mean issuing himself new shares and covering the losses. Like we done fro. When King etc came in all through the Gerrard rebuild.

Now this cannot continue to happen as FFP get involved as we cannot keep making losses and using the owners own personally money to just issue himself new shares to cover losses. We end up putting our European License at risk.

So this new owner needs to find new ways of bringing money in. The commercial and sponsorship situation is at an all time high. We are doing great making what we do playing in Scotland. The new owner cannot do a Man City and just create false companies with false sponsorship deals at stupid valuations so he can keep pumping his own money in to fund buying players etc. So that won't happen. He cannot name Ibrox the Mystery Billionaire.com stadium for £200m because again the price of that deal doesn't justify the actual valuation to his company. Wouldn't be allowed.

So see what you have would be a bottomless pit where the owner would need to keep losing his own money repeatedly somehow to just try and compete with Celtic. There isn't a single person or company that would or could run the club this way. Money needs to come in from genuine legal firms. Like prizemoney, sponsorship, commercial, season ticket, ticket sales, European money, transfers. That's it. Not from an owners own pocket.

Tavernieeeerr above is correct 100% the Footballing board is the issue. That needs to be changes completely to actual people who have experience running just the football department.

The manager will get funded with what the club can afford from the clubs income stream. Not outside income or the boards own income.
Im not sure how many times I've read your posts explaining this, and breaking down the financial position that meant the board couldn't back Gerrard after 55.

The posters that your aiming at at just seem to ignore it, as if shouting about "Standards" will somehow make the financial realities magically disappear.

Good on you for trying.

"STANDARDS"...nope, the accounts still read the same.
 
Exactly - your earluer post was excellent, btw.

We all want a winning team but the safety of the club in the post covid, FFP era - especially with so many desperate to stick the boot in again - is the most important factor.
Yep, I get why people are angry, this season has been a huge disappointment, but there is no magic money tree.

We clearly need to spend what we do have much better, but that’s why we hired Koppen, to do just that.

We simply cannot match the beggars spending, and we have already spent £4.5m of this summers budget on Diomande, so barring a big player sale, I honestly wouldn’t expect fortunes more in fees to be spent, we have to box very clever.
 
If my information is correct and from a good source when King left / voted off the board and the Parks took control after winning 55 that was the downfall we didn’t back SG to take the club forward and the decisions at board level were horrendous especially from his son who Douglas gave him his authority too act upon.

From all accounts JB is going to change the whole football structure as the wage bill needs halfed Koppen was brought in as he’s worked with clubs on this basis producing player profit turnover I’d like him to come out and give us his vision taking Rangers and the club forward.
 
Im not sure how many times I've read your posts explaining this, and breaking down the financial position that meant the board couldn't back Gerrard after 55.

The posters that your aiming at at just seem to ignore it, as if shouting about "Standards" will somehow make the financial realities magically disappear.

Good on you for trying.

"STANDARDS"...nope, the accounts still read the same.
So many are Rangers winning on the Park only fans with absolutely zero care for what it entails running a club or providing managers money to buy players repeatedly and just sack all players cause they are crap after every bad season.

We all want a winning team. It just doesn't happen that easily anymore. There is no magic formula. No pot of gold just cause Celtic are winning. It's tough times but it's impossible to fix overnight
 
If my information is correct and from a good source when King left / voted off the board and the Parks took control after winning 55 that was the downfall we didn’t back SG to take the club forward and the decisions at board level were horrendous especially from his son who Douglas gave him his authority too act upon.

From all accounts JB is going to change the whole football structure as the wage bill needs halfed Koppen was brought in as he’s worked with clubs on this basis producing player profit turnover I’d like him to come out and give us his vision taking Rangers and the club forward.
Your information is miles off.
 
Why will we have a frequent turnover of managers?

The board appointed an experienced proven winner in Clement, then appointed a Head of Recruitment in Koppen who has a good record of talent spotting.

The board need to ignore the noise, back them as best we can afford, and give them time to do it right.

No matter who is in charge, we can’t match Celtics spending, that’s the reality, so we will always be fighting an uphill battle, we can’t just keep binning managers, DoF’s and board members if we don’t get immediate success.
Why do they have so much more money than us? I get the bigger stadium by about 9500 seats x £500 per seat. Just around £5m ahead of us on that regard. What about the rest? Its evidence we need. And if that evidence points to a scout team who are blind, get them to %^*&. They buy O`Reilly for £1.5m. He`s going for minimum £15m. If they can unearth them, so can we.
 
Aye, so you keep telling us on a daily basis.
We need to look at what we did to get to the top and what we've done wrong since. Then we need to create a structure that'll get us back to the top. The board are not above criticism and neither is anyone else within the club.
 
Now this cannot continue to happen as FFP get involved as we cannot keep making losses and using the owners own personally money to just issue himself new shares to cover losses. We end up putting our European License at risk.

So this new owner needs to find new ways of bringing money in. The commercial and sponsorship situation is at an all time high. We are doing great making what we do playing in Scotland. The new owner cannot do a Man City and just create false companies with false sponsorship deals at stupid valuations so he can keep pumping his own money in to fund buying players etc. So that won't happen. He cannot name Ibrox the Mystery Billionaire.com stadium for £200m because again the price of that deal doesn't justify the actual valuation to his company. Wouldn't be allowed.

So see what you have would be a bottomless pit where the owner would need to keep losing his own money repeatedly somehow to just try and compete with Celtic. There isn't a single person or company that would or could run the club this way. Money needs to come in from genuine legal firms. Like prizemoney, sponsorship, commercial, season ticket, ticket sales, European money, transfers. That's it. Not from an owners own pocket.

Tavernieeeerr above is correct 100% the Footballing board is the issue. That needs to be changes completely to actual people who have experience running just the football department.

The manager will get funded with what the club can afford from the clubs income stream. Not outside income or the boards own income.

I agree we need new money and that's the commercial/marketing's role, I'm not buying it's at an all time high(if you can point me to proof of this the aplogies yours) and again I don't buy we are doing great, in fact that's exactly the sort of attitude that breads failure.
 
Yep, I get why people are angry, this season has been a huge disappointment, but there is no magic money tree.

We clearly need to spend what we do have much better, but that’s why we hired Koppen, to do just that.

We simply cannot match the beggars spending, and we have already spent £4.5m of this summers budget on Diomande, so barring a big player sale, I honestly wouldn’t expect fortunes more in fees to be spent, we have to box very clever.

For all Celtic's ability to spend more they got very, very lucky with Postecoglu. I suspect he wasn't even 2nd or 3rd choice and they were scrambling after Howe knocked them back.

I don't believe for one minute anyone expected him to win 5 trophies in two seasons. It just so happened that he immediately realised Scottish football was the perfect environment for his coaching style and was able to sign players perfect for our league.

That kind of thing is unlikely to happen again.
 
I agree we need new money and that's the commercial/marketing's role, I'm not buying it's at an all time high(if you can point me to proof of this the aplogies yours) and again I don't buy we are doing great, in fact that's exactly the sort of attitude that breads failure.
In terms of the commercial side I believe it was stated by the CEO. He may be wrong but going by his word. The exposure Scottish Football gets and the potential for sponsors to be seen globally means we don't get top dollar. The same CEO has been getting bashed for having too many sponsors. They can't win.
 
For all Celtic's ability to spend more they got very, very lucky with Postecoglu. I suspect he wasn't even 2nd or 3rd choice and they were scrambling after Howe knocked them back.

I don't believe for one minute anyone expected him to win 5 trophies in two seasons. It just so happened that he immediately realised Scottish football was the perfect environment for his coaching style and was able to sign players perfect for our league.

That kind of thing is unlikely to happen again.
£25m spent on new players in his first season whilst also taking Jota and Carter Vickers on loan. Helped massively. Those 2 then cost them £20m or more so having them helped. Also Maeda on loan. They had the money toninvest dramatically after we won 55
 
They are happy to blow money left right and centre of absolute garbage whist across the city, they have proper scouting and use their money wisely. We're notorious for buying players from lower league in England, how couldn't we scout O'Reilly? Instead we on Aaron Ramsey for a vanity buy. Instead of going out and getting a new younger fitter CB, we gave Goldson a 4 year deal at 31
 
£25m spent on new players in his first season whilst also taking Jota and Carter Vickers on loan. Helped massively. Those 2 then cost them £20m or more so having them helped. Also Maeda on loan. They had the money toninvest dramatically after we won 55
Oh, absolutely.

Spent more than any Yahoo manager.
 
Clement and Koppen have been brought in to implement a better recruitment plan as well as Clement the manager. There are very good players out there at not much cost that could do a job then be sold on. Or real problem has been selling, we should not have players being here 4, 5 and 6 years plus! We’ve been talking about this for years, previous individuals have failed at it, now it’s here so time will tell.
 
The feeling I’m getting amongst our supporters tonight is anger more than disappointment, feeling sick and tired of feeling sick and tired.

I reckon this upcoming transfer window will be our board’s last chance to get it right on the park, and produce a winning Rangers, otherwise heads will roll.

We deserve better.
& who is going to replace them?
 
They have spent over £100m in 4 seasons. Yes they brought money in but doesn't excuse the fact they have spent that amount to win in Scotland..
I think people need to staet understanding this. They've spent ridiculous amounts to dominate at home.

Some fans want us to match that spending.

We can't - and never should - be spending money we don't have. Get the structure right so we can build.
 
The feeling I’m getting amongst our supporters tonight is anger more than disappointment, feeling sick and tired of feeling sick and tired.

I reckon this upcoming transfer window will be our board’s last chance to get it right on the park, and produce a winning Rangers, otherwise heads will roll.

We deserve better.
Yes it’s far from good enough but one simple question how do we go about getting rid of the present board and replace them with members who are going to see us retain our position as Scotlands number one club? There certainly hasn’t been a rush of buyers in the past or maybe that’s not the way it works? If you don’t have the answers as to how we oust the board I’m sure someone on here will.
 
Oh, come on.

If we are demanding that the board does something, let's at least be realistic.

Let's be fair to the board here.


What can we demand that the board does?

* Give its full backing to a political campaign that is massively divisive and/or extreme, and is opposed by many within the support

* Increase the cost of a ticketing scheme that defines "loyalty" as paying for tickets, then punting them on the web ASAP because you're not up for attending that shite


What can't we demand that the board does?

* Defend the fans

* Put the right pieces in place that will maximise our chances of on the field success


We must ensure that our demands are realistic. Some of you lot are wanting a cripple to be doing a four-minute-mile after some bastard's done a runner with his false leg or his wheelchair.
 
£25m spent on new players in his first season whilst also taking Jota and Carter Vickers on loan. Helped massively. Those 2 then cost them £20m or more so having them helped. Also Maeda on loan. They had the money toninvest dramatically after we won 55

Their player trading helped. Over £30m that summer for Eduoard, Ajer and Christie paid for his rebuild. Then another £12m on Juranovic and Giakoumakis the following season.
 
Their player trading helped. Over £30m that summer for Eduoard, Ajer and Christie paid for his rebuild.
Yes and I acknowledged that. However that means they have still allowed the managers to spend seriously ridiculous amounts to win stuff in Scotland. They didn't have to spend anywhere near those amounts to be successful here.
 
The lack of experience is a big issue for us.

It's all fair and well pumping the cash in but the winning mentality needs to be there by everyone at the club.

How we solve that I have no idea.
Non exec directors that have football club experience and also political experience.

You then then widen the thought process of how to do things with different ideas.

Doesn't mean board needs to dramatically change but adds something to it
 
Their player trading helped. Over £30m that summer for Eduoard, Ajer and Christie paid for his rebuild. Then another £12m on Juranovic and Giakoumakis the following season.
Plus CL cash thanks to our EL efforts which is the most galling part.
 
Yes it’s far from good enough but one simple question how do we go about getting rid of the present board and replace them with members who are going to see us retain our position as Scotlands number one club? There certainly hasn’t been a rush of buyers in the past or maybe that’s not the way it works? If you don’t have the answers as to how we oust the board I’m sure someone on here will.
We are set to LOSE our position as Scotland’s number one club WITH the current board.
 
Blame culture alive and well again last night and this morning.

Even if there were fans placed to pony up there are not willing sellers of the shares. So where is the revolution to come from - boycotts, we deserve better banners, inflatables, a FF poll? Who is to lead the revolution? How long before the revolutionaries fall out with one another?
 
£25m spent on new players in his first season whilst also taking Jota and Carter Vickers on loan. Helped massively. Those 2 then cost them £20m or more so having them helped. Also Maeda on loan. They had the money toninvest dramatically after we won 55

I'm sure i read Jota was actually offered to us first.

Sums up our recruitment in general really.
 
The feeling I’m getting amongst our supporters tonight is anger more than disappointment, feeling sick and tired of feeling sick and tired.

I reckon this upcoming transfer window will be our board’s last chance to get it right on the park, and produce a winning Rangers, otherwise heads will roll.

We deserve better.
The Board dont pick the team or the tactics or select new signings.They made a mistake with Beale but they backed him with millions.
Whos heads are going to roll and who would replace them?
 
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