frankieboy
Well-Known Member
If they were deducted points for playing an ineligible player why not the anti christ?
The SPFL rule book is a blank note pad.
Written in pencil and the biggest eraser you’ve ever seen.The SPFL rule book is a blank note pad.
That's some jump to fit that one inI don’t think it’s the case he was “ineligible” under the rules thats a matter of registration of the player. Bolingoli was however a suspended player under the rules. The sanction for that is a discretionary matter for the Board/Panel.
Rule 17 of the player regulations.
There is no mention of SG rules there.That's some jump to fit that one in
The suspension has to come from the SFA or League and that isn't the case. It is legislation by the SG that prevents him not the SFA/SPFL.
Suspended Players
17. If a Player Plays whilst subject to suspension or other prohibition from Playing by the Scottish FA and/or the League the Club and the Player concerned shall be in breach of these Regulations.
Yes, the law prevents it and he was punished under the law by a fine. Unless it's covered by those rules I can't see what football can do other a potential disrepute chargeThere is no mention of SG rules there.
There needs to be a rule/law that covers it.
Sorry I meant football law. But there should be a disrepute charge. He has caused 2 games to be called off.Yes, the law prevents it and he was punished under the law by a fine. Unless it's covered by those rules I can't see what football can do other a potential disrepute charge
I don't know they showed more fight than us.Would nt hold your breath on the tarts doing anything .
I would agree but the punishment won't be a points deduction and that's what people are hoping for.Sorry I meant football law. But there should be a disrepute charge. He has caused 2 games to be called off.
i wonder if a secret deal was doneThey haven’t even laid a glove on the SPFL over an unjust relegation fs. They’re absolute cucks
He wasn't ineligible.If they were deducted points for playing an ineligible player why not the anti christ?
He wasn't ineligible.
That makes a lot of sense so that can’t be how it worksAnd here was me thinking anyone who should be self isolating should automatically become
ineligible. You can’t isolate and play so he must be ineligible
Mate, have you seen the rules that the BBC refer to in this article:
Coronavirus: Six St Mirren staff get all-clear as Rangers face probe
Seven coaches and backroom staff at the football club initially tested positive for coronavirus.www.bbc.co.uk
Namely the quote here " Current rules state players cannot take part in any matches unless they have negative test results from weekly screenings. ". That suggests there are new SFA rules for Covid , therefore there must be rules out there that determine a players eligibility if they have are prohibited from playing due to self isolation measures.
The Scotsman then suggest in a headline that we have breached protocol - again, a suggestion that there are new rules out there.
Glasgow times reporting we face an SFA probe - again, a probe into a covid rule break.
Making new rules as we speak ensuring no punishment to celtic,but guaranteed to hammer any other team who plays a player ineligibly in the future.We don't know if he was inelligble because the SPFL havent published any amendments to the rules for 20/21 and covid. They are no where to be seen.
There are, but it doesn't affect their eligibility in terms of the rules. For a player to be ineligible he's got to not be registered or named on a suspension list. Neither was the case - even if he strictly shouldn't have been playing. If he/celtic were to be cited for breaching the rules on player eligibility, they walk away without any sanctions.
The BBC suggest there is a rule that if you don't have a negative result then you cannot play - you are surely then inellgible.
Self-isolation is a procedure where a person is deemed to be positive - that is surely why they self-isolate.
Therefore , in my opinion, if a player is ineligible because he has a positive test result, he is also ineligible because of his "assumed positive" quarantine.
Definition here of self isolation:
Self-isolation is when you stay at home because you have or might have coronavirus (COVID-19).
The self isolation period is 14 days because that person may not test positive on day one. He might not even test positive until day 13.
But the rule states that he must have had a negative result prior to the game and apparently he did so you can't use that one.The BBC suggest there is a rule that if you don't have a negative result then you cannot play - you are surely then inellgible.
Self-isolation is a procedure where a person is deemed to be positive - that is surely why they self-isolate.
Therefore , in my opinion, if a player is ineligible because he has a positive test result, he is also ineligible because of his "assumed positive" quarantine.
Definition here of self isolation:
Self-isolation is when you stay at home because you have or might have coronavirus (COVID-19).
The self isolation period is 14 days because that person may not test positive on day one. He might not even test positive until day 13.
But the rule states that he must have had a negative result prior to the game and apparently he did so you can't use that one.
Do you have the rule that says that you are deemed positive or is that your interpretation?
We social distance by 2m to reduce the likely spread but we aren't deemed to be positive. It's a preventative measure not a presumption of being positive.It isnt my interpretation because Ive yet to see the 2020/21 revised rules. Its common sense.
Self isolation is deemed positive. Celtic played a player who was deemed positive. Doesnt matter that he was tested two days before - he may have it two days later.
To the best of anyone’s knowledge? What about the players knowledge? he knew he was supposed to be self isolating or does he not count? So someone at the club knew he should not be there.Your first sentence goes back to the most important question that everyone seems to have brushed over in their rush to say he was ineligible because he should have been self-isolating (and I've sent emails to ask with no response).
Was the player tested in line with the SPFL/SFA rules and results submitted 48 hours before kickoff.
If he did then he was, strictly within the football rules, fine to play as, to the best of anyone's knowledge, he'd complied with all the guidelines.
Celtic played an eligible player and that would be all fine.
If Celtic KNEW he'd been out of the country, tested him and played him regardless of being out the country, then they're fucked and there becomes a serious argument that they should be seriously punished.
Either way, the player should be hammered (both by his club and the SPFL/SFA)
We social distance by 2m to reduce the likely spread but we aren't deemed to be positive. It's a preventative measure not a presumption of being positive.
And the football rules only say 2 days before
To the best of anyone’s knowledge? What about the players knowledge? he knew he was supposed to be self isolating or does he not count? So someone at the club knew he should not be there.
If Celtic KNEW he'd been out of the country, tested him and played him regardless of being out the country, then they're fucked and there becomes a serious argument that they should be seriously punished.
It makes a MASSIVE difference if others knew.Celtic did know though. Bolingoli IS Celtic.
I dont think it makes any difference at all whether Lennon knew or not. The player knew and that is what matters.
Legia Warsaw missed out on millions due to ONE staff members admin error.
It makes a MASSIVE difference if others knew.
OK then, here's the legislation. Can you point out the part that says you are deemed to be positive?We aren't talking about social distancing or reducing spread though, we're talking about a player that has travelled to a country that is on the Scottish governments list of countries where upon return you must self isolate for 14 days because there is a high risk of you bringing the disease back to the UK with you.
Again , NHS define self isolation as:
Self-isolation is when you stay at home because you have or might have coronavirus (COVID-19).
Celtic have therefore played a player who has or may have coronavirus by the NHS definition at the point he takes the field of play.
Correct.And here was me thinking anyone who should be self isolating should automatically become
ineligible. You can’t isolate and play so he must be ineligible
No one at Legia knew mate. Look what happened there. Having no knowledge that your player should have been in self isolation is not an excuse.
Lennons players are out of control.
They should be punished for lennon keeping stum in the zoom conversation with Leitch, who happens to also think that they and Aberdeen should be punished.They get sent the same UEFA circular every club gets listing the players suspended. The guy in question was named on it and Legia even whined that Celtic and the UEFA delegate knew ahead of kickoff the player was suspended.
So they should be punished because a player went to Spain with, as far as anyone can say, nobody from his club knowing?
Perfectly summed up.And here was me thinking anyone who should be self isolating should automatically become
ineligible. You can’t isolate and play so he must be ineligible
is it? Because if that's true, it's a pretty massive story. I'm sure there's something credible to back it up...They should be punished for lennon keeping stum in the zoom conversation with Leitch, who happens to also think that they and Aberdeen should be punished.
This ain't a Rangers thing its health and safety in failing to control their players
This is also the 2nd Boli has flaunted the rules they kept it quiet the first time and would have done so again if it wasn't for the pesky Internet finding out on Sunday
Yet one of our talented journalists on Radio C**** (hugh knew) insisted that nobody had found out until Monday, lying auld scrote.This is also the 2nd Boli has flaunted the rules they kept it quiet the first time and would have done so again if it wasn't for the pesky Internet finding out on Sunday
is it? Because if that's true, it's a pretty massive story. I'm sure there's something credible to back it up...