jf1960
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He didnt get 2 yellows the stats on flashscore says he got a yellow on 92 mins and a red on 94 mins
Tonight’s red card call and how they arrived at it
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Sir Walter
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Except he didn’t kick out and even if we won, I’d still be raising the same question
Fan video from the Copland shows the incident far clearer. He did not kick out, he withdrew his foot from under Broadfoots studs
Who needs enemies eh
Jackhammer
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I didn’t see him kick out, club foot was standing on his feet and he was reacting to that he then shoved him in the chest
davydumper
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I saw the ref raise his yellow card 3 times during the melee, could it be possible he booked both players then issued a second to jack possibly for saying something to him and he didn’t realise he’d been booked twice and never left the field of play hence the 4th official bringing it to the refs attention and having him sent from the field.
Popbear
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Ask Celtic how ridiculous it is. They seem to be benefiting.
Thats the stuff - just roll over and accept it all. Officials are just making up the rules where we are concerned now.
That isn't the case though.
We've had these threads this season after winning at Motherwell, Ross County and St Johnstone.
To say it's only a reaction to a bad result is insulting.
We are on the receiving end of these decisions just about every game now.
If the ref had sent Jack off then this thread is about his stupidity.
The ad-hoc make it up as we go along nature of the red card should rightly be discussed.
I'll be happy to be proved wrong though, I'm sure there are plenty of examples of a 4th official wandering onto the pitch to overrule a referees decision.......
Broadfoot was winding Jack up looking for a reaction.
After having his feet stood on several times, Jack makes a head butt motion to Broadfoot and pushes him away. Doesn't touch him with his head but kirk goes down like a tonne of bricks holding his face. Funny thing is he seemed fine enough to chase the ref when Jack only got a yellow.
After having his feet stood on several times, Jack makes a head butt motion to Broadfoot and pushes him away. Doesn't touch him with his head but kirk goes down like a tonne of bricks holding his face. Funny thing is he seemed fine enough to chase the ref when Jack only got a yellow.
thornhill bear
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Jack was an idiot for what he did and probably deserved a red card. But the main clown sorted it out with a yellow. It's obvious that the 4th clown had access to a tv monitor and let the main clown know it should have been red. Now as it's been pointed out replays cannot be used and I highly doubt the 4th clown saw the whole incident. We should appeal the red card but won't. The compliance officer canny get involved as it has been dealt with albeit by the clowns. The ringmasters will banish the main clown to the lower divisions for a week or two to make it look like they are in control.
Roscoblue
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What did he deserve a red card for @thornhill bear ?
Thasunke Witko
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So am I but are you going to tell us where we can get any unbiased ,uncorrupt,cheat free officials from as that's the only way these threads will disappear.
Thasunke Witko
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Bang on the money with this, I reckon in our games so far there have been an average of 3 ludicrous decisions per game that have gone against us.
Superrangers
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If that is what it takes to get fair treatment then yes. We have been the victims of shameful treatment at the hands of officials this season. Rangers are being cheated and it cannot continue.
The sectarian employment policy surrounding the Compliance Officer also must be called out and rectified.
derbybear
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So you are going on what a guy, further away than you says. That's because it suits your agenda. Believable!
Bluenosewrx
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No it Wasn't a red, he purposely stood on his toes, Jack lifted his leg and pushed him, rightly so earning both of them a booking.
how it changed to a Red is the matter here.and who decided that.
The ref made a mistake and corrected it?
I know you've already imagined two yellow cards for Jack but did the other 48000 of us imagine the 4th official walking onto the pitch to decide it was a red card?
Craigie
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Your initial post is inaccurate then as you are only guessing.
I'm not aware of a monitor being to hand on the touchline, especially if the game is not televised live.
Craigie
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He's not had both cards. He was booked but on the advice of the 4th Official the referee has shown a red card. The original yellow will not go on his disciplinary record.
bnigmother
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The guy was in the seat behind me. He watched the incident I was watching Candeias
from my seat, it was clear the ref was speaking into his mic as he was walking over to give jack the red card. it now seems rhis country has adopted the video ref technology without letting anyone know. or maybe its just for us.how many times over the years have uttered phrase "if we accept this then its open season on rangers".
they just keep coming out with something new. as an aside, we should also be asking why muir didnt play the allocated stoppage time.
they just keep coming out with something new. as an aside, we should also be asking why muir didnt play the allocated stoppage time.
Craigie
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Where is the proof that TV evidence was used?
derbybear
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There's none. People using it as the rational behind the time that it took to reverse the decision.
Just a thought but perhaps someone had Rangers TV on their phone (You tube) and showed him it?
georgedoors
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Proof that TV evidence was used , there was no proof TV evidence was used when stv had souness in the tunnel when under a dugout ban .
douzpwa
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I would like to know why the fourth officials have not intervened on many of our games after all what are these bastards there for? Keeping the managers separated, is that all?
Craigie
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I'll guess no to this one.
Craigie
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say here? Souness was banned from the tunnel under his ban and it was shown the next by Scotsport. That is evident. The SFA then decided that the matche delegate had included it in his report without tv evidence. Dubious but not entirely impossible.
People are suggesting that the 4th official acted after viewing a replay before passing his opinion on to the ref. All I'm asking is where is that evidence.
He may have done so (I doubt it) but there is no evidence to back up this claim.
BSPECIAL
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Strange that fourth official sees something from halfway line that ref could not see from a couple of yards away.Strange that fourth official saw nothing wrong with flying elbows on Sunday.Strange that fourth official on Sunday was referee last night.Is he blind? Still they have plenty of time to concoct a story regarding Jack.
babaji
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Kilmarnock probably played better football than us
Lowesy1
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You are correct, I hadn’t saw that video until this morning. Broadfoot is a stain on our history.
GlassHalfEmpty
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I think Ryan Jack alone has more booking points than the entire Celtic team so far this season, he's not even been that dirty f f s.
To think 2 of his 3 reds (already) have been for incidents that have been brought on by opposition players trying to goad him.
He is already a target for refs and he is an easy scapegoat for them as he continues to get involved in stupid incidents, he needs to learn when to walk away.
To think 2 of his 3 reds (already) have been for incidents that have been brought on by opposition players trying to goad him.
He is already a target for refs and he is an easy scapegoat for them as he continues to get involved in stupid incidents, he needs to learn when to walk away.
I was Grumpy once
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We as a team are being subjected to some very spurious decisions lately. The club needs to take this as far as possible or we will always be judged differently to all other clubs. This makes the whole league look corrupt.
Compare and contrast Jack on Garner last season at Pittodrie where he made the headbut movement to Garner who fell holding his face.
To a man on TV it was Garner who was in the wrong and there was no sending off.
For me the is a reasonable barometer of the application of refereeing standards depending on the colour of your jersey.
To a man on TV it was Garner who was in the wrong and there was no sending off.
For me the is a reasonable barometer of the application of refereeing standards depending on the colour of your jersey.
Eric_Cartman
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Just watched the whole thing on the RTV highlights.
It simply beggars belief that he has sent him off.
It's absolute nonsense.
We are officiated to a different standard. There's no doubts.
When a Killie player can injure one of our players going through the back of him with no chance of winning the ball you have no chance of a fair shake. None.
It simply beggars belief that he has sent him off.
It's absolute nonsense.
We are officiated to a different standard. There's no doubts.
When a Killie player can injure one of our players going through the back of him with no chance of winning the ball you have no chance of a fair shake. None.
EstreetRanger
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The fact that he wasnt booked for the foul is even more galling when you see him being booked for hauling Morelos back when we were in a promising attacking position.
If he is already booked would he have fouled Morelos?
babaji
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I'd say that the referee never saw the start of the incident & he's turned to see or got word from the 4th official, Jack shoving that lady's front bottom broadfoot
Smkz23
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Yes
Leeonell Tidy
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No one is saying every single time a decision goes against us. But these are blatantly biased decisions that affect us not only at the time but in the future, you do know we are now without a recognised central defensive pairing for Saturday. An explanation of why similar incidents involving other teams are treated differently to us would at least be a start, clarification if you like!
weebudsbud
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Can anyone confirm if the penalty arose from a by-kick?
If so then it shouldn`t have even been a penalty, therefor the whole incident doesn`t happen.
If so then it shouldn`t have even been a penalty, therefor the whole incident doesn`t happen.
bilkobear
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Indeed.
I would fight this all the way, I would fight it with tooth nail and spit.
I would never surrender.
It was a defensive push under persistent provocation, I wish he hadn't done it, but that was all it was.
He did nothing else.
Fight this with venom.
williewoodburn
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...and must !
Virgil Hilts
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The club need to highlight every incident that has gone against and demand an investigation into:
Why it's always us
Why are officials seeing things that didn't happen
the role of the McGlennan
Why are players involved in " red card " incidents not being held to the same standard as Rangers players
etc.
Why it's always us
Why are officials seeing things that didn't happen
the role of the McGlennan
Why are players involved in " red card " incidents not being held to the same standard as Rangers players
etc.
Union Jack 1872
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Great point but we won't do anything just the Same as all the bluster about Alves,
We should have been armed with a dossier and a lawyer.
